Curse

Hakaido · Jul 26, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

The so called *equipment exploit* they closed during the last update....

Did it also screw around with refund points? Up untill a day or two ago your refund points would be reset to 24 of 24 any time you go and switch your secondary back and forth. And now it doesn't do that anymore.

To me that's not an exploit. I was having a lot of fun with my character running around, trying out different skills and hunting for each proffesions elite skills... Since I can no longer reset my refund points I'm not longer able to experiment with different skills and magic schools.. Unless I go hunt and then get them back slowly per each 250Xp earned....

So much for that.... Hey thanks for screwing up yet another fun aspect of the game.

Tellani Artini · Jul 26, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34

I think that was changed long ago. Back around the time of the mirror fight XP exploit.

Izzy Izumi · Jul 26, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Look at it this way, it's a way to farm while getting those refund points back!

Arcador · Jul 26, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Ok, Hakaido, relax, grow up, find a job, get fired for no reason and come talk again.

Mumblyfish · Jul 26, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Arcador

Ok, Hakaido, relax, grow up, find a job, get fired for no reason and come talk again.

Drop the attitude, sunshine. This was... "fixed" some time ago, granted, but it's a legitimate complaint.

Lorelei · Jul 26, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

250XP isn't too much to complaint about...

gosl · Jul 26, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Lorelei

250XP isn't too much to complaint about...

Agree. That would be ummm ... 2 1/2 dessert minotaurs solo'ed.

kleps · Jul 26, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Lorelei

250XP isn't too much to complaint about...

too true, you could probably get this back in 10 minutes of work, if you take on tough mobs.

Crispie · Jul 27, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

I dont get why refund points even exist. All it does is hinder people. I mean, the only thing it can do is prevent people from changing builds quickly. I dont want to grind 6,000xp in order to change my build. Just get rid of refund points and freeze attributes in battle.

Red Locust · Jul 27, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Freezing attributes in battle and allowing unlimited refund points outside of battle would be a great solution. How often do you change attributes mid-battle anyways? Definitely far less than you switch around attributes out of battle.

Ultimate_Gaara · Jul 27, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

i dont mind the 250xp (or what ever it is), because when im enjoying the game xp flys by like cazy.. no "grind" needed... i could understand 2500xp.. but 250xp is nothing to complain about

TheGreatBoo · Jul 27, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Yeah, 250xp is nothing to fret about.

Crispie · Jul 27, 2005, 01:48 AM // 01:48

250xp is nothing, untill you realize its 6,000xp to use all your refund points. On average, you may change half your attributes, which is 3,000xp. For me, thats at least a missions worth of killing. Another way to look at it is this, you get about 20xp per kill at level 20 on the average monsters, so have fun killing 300 monsters

Ultimate_Gaara · Jul 27, 2005, 01:51 AM // 01:51

well, then do a mission.. if your done it, then help someone do it (free of charge, because only jerks cost money) and then you will be on your way... or just find a quest you havent done, 6000xp is only a lot if you make it a lot...

Kdab · Jul 27, 2005, 01:52 AM // 01:52

If I were you guys I'd even be thankful you can refund points in this game. If not then I'd probably would have made and deleted 100 characters by now.

Kishin · Jul 27, 2005, 01:58 AM // 01:58

It still works, albeit not like it used to. Switching your secondary refunds you all the attribute points you spent on any secondary attributes instantly, at no cost.

aB- · Jul 27, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Kdab

If I were you guys I'd even be thankful you can refund points in this game. If not then I'd probably would have made and deleted 100 characters by now.

My thoughts exactly. Several times I've gone "Damnit if only I had...hey wait a minute, I forgot refund points were there." It basically allows you to change what you do with a character. For example, my monk has been a healing monk, smiting monk, and now a protection monk. It allows you to try different things using the same character.

Sir Skullcrasher · Jul 27, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

i have to agree, refund points for your attributes is annoyed. I know it don't take much exp (250 to get one points back) but it really kill the fun for people to experiment with there attributes points. For example, my W/E. I put 10 on strength, 11 on hammer, 5 on tactics, and 9 on fire magic. But since the refund points is in effect, i can't move any of these points around to say change my elementlist attack to earth, water or something else. or to put all 11 points on swords or axe.

Lorelei · Jul 27, 2005, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Crispie

250xp is nothing, untill you realize its 6,000xp to use all your refund points. On average, you may change half your attributes, which is 3,000xp. For me, thats at least a missions worth of killing. Another way to look at it is this, you get about 20xp per kill at level 20 on the average monsters, so have fun killing 300 monsters

Isn't killing monsters your job? Go back to work!

Argon The Seeker · Jul 27, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20

It should be that you can only change attributes in town just like skills (you could still raise them in Missions If you had extra points) and get rid of the refund points altogether