Curse

MadOnion · Aug 07, 2005, 05:13 AM // 05:13

This is ridiculous! I have 13 fame after doing the tombs for about 28 hours!

I've mainly been doing air spiking, and I have gotten some excellent groups (and I'm quite good myself), and yet I never progress. At this rate, and I might make rank 3 in a couple years

What can I do as an air ele, or is this normal?

Sekkira · Aug 07, 2005, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Spike PUGs are rarely orginised enough to do well at all. You may be able to do a lot of damage by yourself, but you have the have the whole team cooperating on each spike otherwise it's all for nothing.

neoflame · Aug 07, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

To put it bluntly, either your team(s) isn't/aren't good enough, or you're not good enough.

Spike damage revolves entirely around the ability of a team's entire offensive bulk being able to focus fire with large amounts of damage in a very short amount of time. This almost always requires extreme precombat coordination, a competent target caller (and target followers), and voicechat (TS/Vent).

Lews · Aug 07, 2005, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Spike teams make baby Jesus cry.

Moskel · Aug 07, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Even "great" spike teams are having a hard time. They've been played a ton and people know how to counter it and often carry the skills required and know when/how to use them because they have a lot of practice.

If you are in a PUG and just trying to farm fame, not win the HoH I suggest killing unworthy, if you get underworld win it, soon as you win you suicide in mounds or whatever you get put in next and repeat.

KuTeBaka · Aug 07, 2005, 06:23 AM // 06:23

you cant get into good groups until you are rank3+, then its easier to get fame.

Maltare · Aug 07, 2005, 06:26 AM // 06:26

Spike groups just plain and simply arn't good anymore. The next time I loose to a spike team with our guilds normal build I cry.

Takkun · Aug 07, 2005, 06:30 AM // 06:30

lol my guilds feels the same way nowadays. Everytime we are defeated by a spike build, we pretty much stop playing for that entire day. Although I have seen some spike build interpretations out there which are hard to counter..

aphex twin · Aug 07, 2005, 08:19 AM // 08:19

I love spike teams generally, they get owned so hard

Maagus · Aug 07, 2005, 08:25 AM // 08:25

Spike teams are easy to defeat. I am air ele too but I try not to get into spike groups even if they are rank3+.

Ollj · Aug 07, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36

hehe i wonder why there are still air spike broups in the tombs.
All they do is feeding Rangers, nothing more.
Its FAR away from a good build, and CLOSE to "lololo Wa;Mo ids the best class because it does the most damage".

I eat Air spike builds for breakfast!

Zeru · Aug 07, 2005, 09:06 AM // 09:06

spike teams have some interesting potential if played very well. Of course with fertile common, and edenial so strong the metagame is heavily against them.

Bad teams are easy to defeat, no matter what build. It's just not as obvious with spirit spammers cause they take forever anyway.

As for fame, meh, don't worry too much. Fine a good group of people, guild or mix, to play with and you'll find your results much better. I never play with people I don't know at all because it's almost always a waste. Hell, in the few times I have, the group lost to the unworthys. Some people are just THAT bad.

Eternal Equinox · Aug 07, 2005, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by aphex twin

I love spike teams generally, they get owned so hard

Not to cause thread derailment but your guild kicked our ass today. Nice work.

Sagius Truthbarron · Aug 07, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Learn to call, help the group and react fast. Then download vent and ts (No mic required, just for listening) and advertise for a TS or Vent spike group.

The only groups I've gotten over three fame in a day with were all balanced teams.

generik · Aug 07, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49

... and you PvPers are saying how PvE is sooo boring and how 90% of the game revolves around PvP?

Wow, spikers... spirit spammers.. and whatever the FoTM is, these are SOOOOO interesting.... NOT.

Jaythen Tyradel · Aug 07, 2005, 03:46 PM // 15:46

I have played about an hour/hour and a half of PVP (since faction has been introduced)and have reached over 100 faction.
Keep trying.

powdahound · Aug 07, 2005, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

I have played about an hour/hour and a half of PVP (since faction has been introduced)and have reached over 100 faction.
Keep trying.

Fame is quite different than faction. Nobody has that hard of a time getting faction.

Jaythen Tyradel · Aug 07, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

My bad, misunderstood OP topic.

QQ- · Aug 07, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55

you blow

Quintus · Aug 07, 2005, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by generik

... and you PvPers are saying how PvE is sooo boring and how 90% of the game revolves around PvP?

Wow, spikers... spirit spammers.. and whatever the FoTM is, these are SOOOOO interesting.... NOT.

Actually, PvPers are saying that those things are really boring as well, and that's why so many are leaving until those things (and skill acquisition problems) are fixed.