Curse

varyag · Aug 10, 2005, 08:49 AM // 08:49

... from the person at ANet that allowed the following to be implemented:

1. The Lava map in 4v4.

2. The 'World at War' concept.

Both are a violation to the spirit of the game and have caused an immesurable amount of grief to the GW community.

The lava map promotes and rewards spawn-camping, which is very similar to cheating. It is not a tactic. It is a clear exploit. It goes against the balanced competition concept of the game. It allows griefing.

The 'favor of the gods' promotes Xeno-hatered. It would be criminal in a different setting.

Both problems shouldn't have passed quality control.
Both should have been fixed many updates ago.

Where is the appology? When will these problems be fixed?

Racthoh · Aug 10, 2005, 08:55 AM // 08:55

The lava map is a nuisance when the battle is over in two minutes because the other team left. Both teams just sitting back at the respawn is such a dumb tactic. Also, can the thing revive faster than every 30 seconds? Half you team dies, 30 seconds later the other half dies leaving you with half a team.

The favor of the gods should just be removed IMO. Remove the bond between PvP and PvE, make everyone happy. I'm not sure what Xeno-hatred is but I'm assuming it has some racial or power monger meaning to it. But then again, surely there are other games with a similar method within them?

Lasareth · Aug 10, 2005, 09:06 AM // 09:06

If you hate a region because they win in a game, I think you have more to worry about than simple xenophobia

varyag · Aug 10, 2005, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Both teams just sitting back at the respawn is such a dumb tactic.

Spawn camping is still the most effective tactic in that arena in most cases. Especialy when you get to fight the better teams. It comes down to several minutes of pointless waiting and a match to the first kill. Boring.

That map has to be removed and redone.

Quote:

But then again, surely there are other games with a similar method within them?

Yes, and they are rated as [M]ature or [A]dult.
There are bad developers that make shitty games.
There is ANet and it makes Guildwars.
There shouldn't be any parralels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

If you hate a region because they win in a game, I think you have more to worry about than simple xenophobia

The people who hate do have problems.
The people who created the situation which provokes the hate also have a problem.

Zeru · Aug 10, 2005, 09:19 AM // 09:19

The lava map is stupid because you can't own them in a minute

It slows down the faction gain. I mean, I could've gotten another match in and gotten an amazing 20 more faction in that time spent continuing a fight that was lost in the first minute. Who wouldn't want that lovely 20 extra faction?

cup-o-noodles · Aug 10, 2005, 10:13 AM // 10:13

To the OP, is your name Hillary Clinton? Seriously it's just a game. And you have to remember it's the devs job to make money, it all boils down to that. Because if they don't they'll starve and be homeless, and we'll have no more GW. There job isn't to be 100% politicly correct, and remove all the "bad" stuff. And if you're gonna let some comment made by a 12 year old, on the internet about a country, because of a game ruin your day, well then, you need a life. Even if they get rid of the favour of the gods people will still be racist and make such coments as they do now. And if they got rid of every exploitable map, then they'd all disapear. Because some one would find new ways to do the same thing on every map.

Killion · Aug 10, 2005, 10:17 AM // 10:17

*locked* You got nothing to demand about, a bug is a bug. Fool.

Mr. Matt · Aug 10, 2005, 10:50 AM // 10:50

I don't think favour of the gods should be removed, I think that the servers should just be renamed to something less 'nationalist'. I like the idea of using the in-game god names (Balthazar & co). Otherwise there's no competition.

I can see the reason for the WaW concept though. You're more likely to associate with your homeland than you are with some fictional god (not that there are any 'true' ones either, but that's a different debate entirely). What would an American fight for more, even in a game -- America, or Balthazar? Unfortunately, ANet didn't foresee a total lack of camaraderie in Europe, they didn't foresee such excellent, open-minded strategies by the Koreans, nor did they imagine that the large number of American players would cause problems either.

Racism isn't the problem with the WaW system. Racism is just 'a' problem, with everything. Even if you change the WaW system or get rid of it completely, the second a racist sees a name written in a foreign language (Korean or Chinese, for example) they're going to make a racist comment. This won't ever change, and there's nothing the developers can do about it.

Eadwyn Mirwen · Aug 10, 2005, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by varyag

The 'favor of the gods' promotes Xeno-hatered. It would be criminal in a different setting.

Then you must hate also all sports.
No wait. You basically must hate the whole world because it is based uppon competition!

Crimson Eyes · Aug 10, 2005, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Ok, say they re-named the regions of Europe, America, Korea to something else, for e.g. x,y and z.

x will always be known as Europe, and y will always be known as America as will z be known as Korea. the problem will always remain unless u implement a system which users can choose which 'team' they want to play for (x, y or z)

but then this has even worse problems, also how do koreans communicate with american players who are both part of 'team' x?

its a circle, there is not perfect solution. what we have now is fine, dont let individuals ruin the game, turn off local chat, done.

Satire Elexus · Aug 10, 2005, 11:11 AM // 11:11

lol. Anet are extremely good at keeping their customers happy with the game. They follow a democratic system. If the majority of people don't like something then they will look into it. This is the first time since the games release where I have heard someone complaining about these two things. (ok so I admit the Lava map could do with a change) But the majority of people put up with it. But if something like Favor of the Gods was removed...Then how many more people would be complaining about that. Thousands. Plus the favour thing is a good idea and I like it.

Aniewiel · Aug 10, 2005, 12:26 PM // 12:26

This thread is serving no useful purpose. OP: Make it into a coherent well-thought-out suggestion and put it in the sanitarium.