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Aug 07, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#21
Eder Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005	To those who are too lazy to click the link: Having more levels in a weapon attribute makes you do more damage. But it does not matter how many levels you're ahead of your weapon's requirement, what matters is your total level. 12 Attribute with 8 req weapon = X damage 12 Attribute with 12 req weapon = X damage 8 Attribute with 8 req weapon = less than X damage 8 Attribute with 12 req weapon = basically no damage Last edited by Eder; Aug 07, 2005 at 11:20 PM // 23:20..

Aug 07, 2005, 11:18 PM // 23:18	#22
EverBlue Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada, AB, Calgary Guild: Arcane Draconum Profession: W/Mo	I found some idiot who was selling an 8req max dmg fellblade for 8k. While a 12req goes for less. I don't think it's really going to matter much...

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Aug 07, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Shadow_Avenger

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Read this.

Some of that has actually been changed in updates, as casters where able to use items above their attrib level or requiring skills they didn't have, so if you don't meet the req of the items you will nolonger gain any benifits from the items buffs / stat boosts.

The actual damage caluclation is also based on your level and the level of the creature you are fighting, if you are higher level you actually receive a bonus to damage upto 150%. (before armour)
I am fairly certain you recieve a slight pen to your damage when fighting higher level creatures, the exact calculation I could not say, as this is affected more but A.net balancing and individual armour class tweaks to creatures than Just level based damage.

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Aug 08, 2005, 08:24 AM // 08:24	#24
Saerden Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005	The only way req on weapon attributes would matter is when the +20% enchantment duration is affected by it. There is no build in the world that needs 8 sword skill. Either you wear the weapon for the bonus (the enchantment grip on the +5 energy sword) or you have 14+. Hammers may be an exeption, but if you only use knockdown, the req should not matter at all?

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Aug 08, 2005, 10:19 AM // 10:19

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger

casters where able to use items above their attrib level or requiring skills they didn't have, so if you don't meet the req of the items you will nolonger gain any benifits from the items buffs / stat boosts.

Incorrect. You will only fail to get the individual bonuses that you do not have the requirement for. For example, most staves have an attribute requirement on the damage, but not on the energy. If you equip a staff, even one for an attribute you do not posess, you will still get the energy.

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The actual damage caluclation is also based on your level and the level of the creature you are fighting

No it isn't.

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if you are higher level you actually receive a bonus to damage upto 150%. (before armour)

Congratulations on your ability to make shit up.

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I am fairly certain you recieve a slight pen to your damage when fighting higher level creatures

I am 100% positive that you made that up.

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the exact calculation I could not say

Why not? You made up everything else so far, go ahead and make up exact numbers too.

Summary: You're full of shit. Don't start denouncing my work if you aren't about to back even a hint of it up.

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Aug 08, 2005, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Congratulations on your ability to make shit up.

Ok so he made a mistake, theres really no need for that kind of talk is there? Just becuase your a mod doesn't mean you can swear and be rude.

Anyways back on TOPIC:

In my case I have 12 points in Marksmanship, but during PvP this can be raised to 15 if I'm going in with a quick shot build, my currently bow requires 10, but I'm hoping to find a Gold one (or buy one) which higher requirment.

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Aug 08, 2005, 10:48 AM // 10:48	#27
cookiehoarder Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne, Florida. Guild: [HTR]	I'm not sure if you are aware of a bow in mineral springs-9 Marks +15% Damage over 50%-Ascalon Bow-Short bow version. If you feel the need to buy a better bow I feel sorry for you.

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Aug 08, 2005, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Keure

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Ok so he made a mistake, theres really no need for that kind of talk is there? Just becuase your a mod doesn't mean you can swear and be rude.

Anyways back on TOPIC:

In my case I have 12 points in Marksmanship, but during PvP this can be raised to 15 if I'm going in with a quick shot build, my currently bow requires 10, but I'm hoping to find a Gold one (or buy one) which higher requirment.

No offense - but how does your "on-topic" post really help? In fact, I'd be inclined to argue that by advocating a purchase of a higher-requirement weapon you'd be spreading misinformation about what the OP said: requirement doesn't matter.

These forums are meant (at least in part) to be a source of correct and reliable information about the game. One could also argue that making (baseless) claims about game mechanics and touting them as truth is even worse for the community than insulting that same person for spreading this information.

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Aug 08, 2005, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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RTSFirebat

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Originally Posted by Keure

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Originally Posted by Keure

In fact, I'd be inclined to argue that by advocating a purchase of a higher-requirement weapon you'd be spreading misinformation about what the OP said: requirement doesn't matter.

Well since the weapon would have a high req. it would force me to add more points towards it, making my Marksmanship skills more effective all the time indirectly. That's what I was trying to say.

Just becuase he a mod doesn't mean he can swear and be rude. Its pays to be polite.

I was resently warned for being insultive on these forums, there shouldn't be a set of rules of us, and differet set of rules for them.

Anyways I added my on-topic feedback to the thread, take it or leave it.

We all human and we make mistakes, no need to be mean about it

Last edited by RTSFirebat; Aug 08, 2005 at 10:58 AM // 10:58..

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Aug 10, 2005, 03:16 PM // 15:16	#30
FrogDevourer on a GW break until C4 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In your shadow Guild: Servants of Fortuna	Charles has spent quite a lot time on his article. Having some random troll spamming stupid statements in these forums can touch a raw nerve. We all make mistakes, but some people should think before hitting the reply button. I'm locking this thread as it is full of wrong statements. Please read this before starting a new thread. __________________

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