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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32   #81
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Wow the traders REALLY arent broken! *sarcasm*
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #82
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I've already posted the answer to the incredble inflation... check it out.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=43903
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #83
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I still don't understand why it is considered "broken"?

I mean, if the traders offer buying price associated to thier selling price, I can see the bots playing the trader farming game and mess up the economy even worse.

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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36   #84
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hehe Orange dye isn't that bad... it looks really good on a monk. i use the cheap dyes anyway because you are more individual as a yellow necromancer than as a black one. even if you aren't demonstrating how uber rich you are.

however those prices are insane...absolutely bonkers.
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12   #85
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this truly is the sign of the beginning of the end... note to self stay out of LA channal 1... it will be flooded even more than usual
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20   #86
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It's almost like us "regular" players are being punished for actually playing the game, instead of constantly farming. This fails any test of logic I am aware of.
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #87
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Just don't buy dyes. You don't need them anyhow, really.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #88
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Default ridicuolous dye sales.



and when i tried to sell.



it did jump up to 3g, but then it went back down to 1g.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #89
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An excellent solution. Ignore things that are wrong if they can't crash your game? Very nice.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13   #90
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eehh im not complaining bout the dye prices
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13   #91
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I wish everything would just be put at a set price... same with dye, runes go up and down to. One day a minor rune of elementalist fire can be sold to the trader for 890g... then the next its worth 25g...
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15   #92
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OMG the price of orange dye doubled

Why doesn't anybody like orange?
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15   #93
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I still don't understand why it is considered "broken"?

I mean, if the traders offer buying price associated to thier selling price, I can see the bots playing the trader farming game and mess up the economy even worse.
That he problem they are not.

Trader sells black dye for upwards of 26k, and buys it from you for less then 2k. Why would anyone in thier right mind sell to a trader if its worth 26k.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25   #94
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i get offered 90 g for red dye
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26   #95
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I have blue and yellow dye for sale 500gp ea
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #96
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Imo its no accident or bug. I believe the traders are set up that way to help suck gold out of the economy. There are alot of people that hate trading with others and will pay extra to avoid it.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32   #97
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OMG the price of orange dye doubled

Why doesn't anybody like orange?
i love it

i have gathered more than 70 of them over time orange drops like flies for me
darn
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:36 AM // 01:36   #98
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The solution is simple too. Completely ditch the miserably failed mechanic that determine the buying price. Instead the buying price is 75% of the selling price. The selling price is determined by stock.

No one sells to the trader because the trader will sell something for 3k and offer 1g to buy it. You are better off just giving stuff away at that price.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:40 AM // 01:40   #99
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Hysteria, don't give this idiotic economy more credit than it's worth. It has no rhyme or reason, it's a completely nonsensical algorithm that creates massive fluctuations in prices for no logical reason.

I sat at the dye trade one day for about 20 minutes tracking the sell price for red dye. In that time the price varied from a low of 1 (yes, 1) gold to a high of a little over 500 gold, and every price in between. One second it was high, then low, then high, then highger, then lowest of all, then highest of all, etc, etc. If you had graphed it it would have look like a typical example of a non-linear dynamic system used as an example when explaining chaos theory.

There's no 'system' to the GWars economy, just a broken algorithm designed by someone who hadn't a clue how to code a decent economic system.
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Old Aug 11, 2005, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #100
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hey chaos theory! i saw that in jurrassic park. err...i mean i agree.
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