Curse

Makkert · Aug 09, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

1) ecto's aren't 15k. they are 10-11k from most farmers.
2) 6 ecto's in 45 min? do you farm yourself? that is a rarity, certainly not normal. i think in 45 min you can get 0-4 ectos.

Maiyn · Aug 09, 2005, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Wow you must be ridiculously lucky. It's not so much about crazy aggro as well because I aggro nearly everything and the best run I've ever had was like 3 ecto in one run (takes about 20-30 minutes)

And I never have runs like that anymore.

Finally, the monks are all farming because we prefer to only have to take care of ourselves instead of a whole group that aggros 100000 monsters then blame us for not being able to heal

zehly · Aug 09, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Let's try to stay on the thread topic, guys, and that is, mainly, the prices of stuff now-a-days (with a slight digression into ToA lameness). If and when I farm non-solo, or without guildies, I make sure I pick the smartest newbie I can find, so that they can (a) get items without having to pay a 1,000,000% premium on it, and (b) so I can teach them the proper way to do it (IMHO). I make sure they know not to take advantage of a good thing, but the goal is for them to gain valuable insight into how the Agro system works and strategies for successful gameplay, solo- or- muliplayer.

EDIT: I was thinking, maybe to defeat this economic crisis, we must exploit it to the best of our abilities. Farm more and buy less from the NPCs, thereby devaluing their existance and forcing A.NET to look into why black dye sells for 99k when and if the trader has one. The downside to this is that I still feel bad for the people who just bought the game and are coming into the middle of an inflation.

BTW: No one has PM'd me regarding those dyes yet o.O

LifeInfusion · Aug 10, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28

lol... I agree 100%. The prices are outrageous.

I remember getting a ecto from a chest like days into the game and it was 3k. The black dyes were like 500 dollars, with the other dyes at what, about 120?

I also had like 2 or 3 monk superior runes that I sold for about 1 plat to the trader. This was before the surge of like 10000x the price.

The prices on stuff are OUTRAGEOUS.

Sereng Amaranth · Aug 10, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Ecto is now 18k
Black is now 25k
Red is now 2k
Sup Abs is now 99k

Fox Reeveheart · Aug 10, 2005, 04:54 AM // 04:54

Well I am more than certain that Anet will consider this 105 build an exploit, cause no 1 class should have an advantage over every other one... and regardless of you say, being able to farm the elite areas of Guild wars by yourself is a exploit of a mistake they did not take into consideration.

No im not saying they'll punish anyone that does it... but I am sure EVENTUALLY they will put a stop to it ONCE it gets to their ears.

Then i can laugh at all the monks! HAHAHA YOU'LL SEEN BE BACK TO POOR LIKE THE REST OF US!

you have 2 solutions Anet, choose one.

1. Have enchantment stripping skills in UW
or
2. Have other elite areas be made that can only be soloed by each other class, like one elite place can be soloed by a necro, one by a mesmer, warrior, etc, though im sure that would be tough as hell to come up with.

So in the end, #1 is the best choice o.o lets nip this problem in the bud!

generik · Aug 10, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Solution? Good and easy, make the guard at ToA disallow entries to parties less than a certain size, problem solved!

wiz12268 · Aug 10, 2005, 07:10 AM // 07:10

All markets are crazy. Ectos were being bought by the trader yesterday for 16400 or so for more than an hour. Had guys spamming in very distirct of ToA paying 12500(which was high) and finaly saw guys even offering 14-15(stilltrying to squeeze 15-2500 profit per.

But now back to "normal" trader only paying 6500 or so.

Rune trader charging 8K for major superior, yet only paying 25. Black dye elling for 25K and bought for like 600. Silver dye OUT OF STOCK, offering less than 500 for it.

Orange is SELLING for 305, but will be BOUGHT for 250, Red dye SELLING for 2K be BOUGHT for 17, thats right 17. How is it that within the dye tarde itself there is that big a deal? 118 times buy versus sell for red, but is paying 82% of his buy price for arange. I didnt check the others, but they might be the same.

And rubies and saphires, don't get me wrong, I own quite a few of them now, but they are going through the roof,and at 14K per I am tempted to sell,but am holding out. But they have NO current use whatsoever, so why are they so high? Again do not get me wrong, it made that 10/10 sundering haft I sold for 15 of them worth 210 plat (at current prices) so I am happy, even more happy that I was hoarding them at 3500-4500. Even "paid" 7 for a few a couple days ago for a trade that was pretty large.

But something definately has to be done. For a guy like me that has money and has ecto and has stashes of materilas and items it is fun and all, but I see people all day that have 2-3 characters and don't have 20K worth of gold. So how are they going to have fun? Ya playing the game is fun, but sooner or later it gets boring. ness you have somethinf else t do you aregoing to stop playing.

When you can't afford anything "special" then the game isn't fun. Even if it isn't necessary to have those special things to win, it is nice havng them sometimes.

Eripens Vitae · Aug 10, 2005, 08:52 AM // 08:52

There are enchantment strippers in the UW, they're Obsidian "something" and they cast natures renewal.
I farm as well with my monk, but not b/c of the money, but b/c i want to get my fissure armor by myself. I dont trade a lot, takes up way too much time, and if i do, i dont charge much for it.

Charcoal Ann · Aug 10, 2005, 09:59 AM // 09:59

i have had a grand total of 5 characters so far (all inclusive), 3 of them have completed all the missions. Currently i have LESS than 1k. it is frustrating, my necro (my first char) was fully black dyed up and had 'uber(ish)' weapons. my ele had NO dye applied at all (she was when i was saveing for a guild hall).
now my warrior is pulling me back but the forge armour for monks costs like 40k all told (the tatoo stuff) when my necros scare stuff costed maybe 12k.
I am reduced to haveing no style, no money and no means of doing dmg.

still have fun though ^^

p0t4T0 · Aug 10, 2005, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Yesturday Black dye was 35k

Darksci · Aug 10, 2005, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Cool - im going to save my ecto then. Also hoarding onto my black and silver dyes as well.

Lol brought quite a few black dyes for 7K about a week ago from i think a bot.

zehly · Aug 10, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I'm just waiting for Black Tuesday to occur on the GW economy. Maybe then people will wisen up! Remember that superior vigor rune you just traded for 90k? Now it's worth less than 10k! Hahaha!

MSecorsky · Aug 10, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehly

I'm just waiting for Black Tuesday to occur on the GW economy. Maybe then people will wisen up! Remember that superior vigor rune you just traded for 90k? Now it's worth less than 10k! Hahaha!

All they need to do is give the merchants bi-weekly supply caravans to restock.

Problem solved, economy stabilized.

Ellipson · Aug 10, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

I made a mesmer as my first character, which basically means I'm a poor, poor sucker. I've been messing around, trying to find a build to solo anything decent with him, but I just can't. The constant inflation into the GW economy from the various farmers out there has really hurt the little guy. The majority of us back here that don't have UW farmers are basically left to watch you guys spam WTS X ITEM!!! over and over again in LA, while we look at our empty pocketbooks.

By the way, does anyone actually manage to sell that stuff at these prices? Even the UW farmers have to be uneasy about 25k for black dye.

Lcount · Aug 10, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Some Stuff is gettting absolutly Rediculous. I started when guild wars first came out and yes I did loose interest for awhile and when I came back everything was crazy, I really saw the difference. I'm Playing everyday now, I spent 3 hours in UW killing everything we saw...NOT 1 ECTO DROP at all.

zehly · Aug 11, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Today I saw someone selling a Black Dye for f'ing 30k? WTF? Then I saw someone begging to get steel ingots at a reasonable price, and when people laughed at him, I PM'd him and told him I'd give him the 47 that he needed. Jeebus.

EDIT: Gave him those FREE.

Elythor · Aug 11, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Having high rune prices is OK as long as we can sell back to the trader with a reasonable price. Yesterday Superior Swords was selling for 23k, if I want to sell to trader, but I'd get 27g. Guess what? That means I'm not gonna be selling to the trader! And guess what? The supply at the trader will keep decreasing and keep driving up the price.

So as long as the trader buys back at reasonable price, the economy should go back to a more managable level.

I personally have to problem with Ecto costing that much, since it takes money out of economy help drive down inflation. Get Superior Rune -> sell to trader -> get Ecto -> Economy balance.

As for high monk rune prices, that's perfectly fine too...because everyone is building a 105 farmer monk. If you are gonna be farming anyway, then paying a large up-front cost is not that big of a deal, think of it as investment anyway.

zehly · Aug 11, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elythor

Having high rune prices is OK as long as we can sell back to the trader with a reasonable price. Yesterday Superior Swords was selling for 23k, if I want to sell to trader, but I'd get 27g. Guess what? That means I'm not gonna be selling to the trader! And guess what? The supply at the trader will keep decreasing and keep driving up the price.

So as long as the trader buys back at reasonable price, the economy should go back to a more managable level.

I personally have to problem with Ecto costing that much, since it takes money out of economy help drive down inflation. Get Superior Rune -> sell to trader -> get Ecto -> Economy balance.

As for high monk rune prices, that's perfectly fine too...because everyone is building a 105 farmer monk. If you are gonna be farming anyway, then paying a large up-front cost is not that big of a deal, think of it as investment anyway.

What about people who use those on a healer that wants +16 attribute in healing?

Aniewiel · Aug 12, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28

Prices have been "fixed" at least temporarily.

/closing