Curse

Sagius Truthbarron · Aug 14, 2005, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Noblepaladin just stated the good thing about this, though. All the horders spent 100k+ on runes that no one will buy.

It's a shame, every time I try to help someone people call me a scammer too o.o

One time I was bored so I went to Beacon's Perch and was saying "Running people to Forge for 500 gold; 250 at Snake's Dance 250 at Rankor" when the going price was 3k. About 1-3 people yelled "SCAMMER!! DONT LISTEN TO HIM HE'LL TAKE YOU OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE AND TAKE YOUR MONEY THEN LEAVE!!"

I guess nobody trusts anything at all now O.O I notice that it's also extremely hard to give things away for free.

PieXags · Aug 14, 2005, 07:24 AM // 07:24

I know what you mean, one time when I used to be rich I was giving away 100k divided up amongst the first 10 people to find me. So I said so, and all of a sudden loads of people said I was a scammer who'd hack their accounts if they traded with me. ...right...

And whenever I put up "Giving away my inventory, all things max dmg, pm me for something you want" Nobody ever...wants to, they all think it's a scam or something.

The best way to give away money and items is to go to random people, open a trade without saying anything, put 100k in the trade slot, and give it to 'em.

Mugon M. Musashi · Aug 14, 2005, 09:43 AM // 09:43

maybe no-one will buy their runes but the fact is at the moment many runes are unavailable
they are in the list but if you clik on them, they just disappear

carnivore · Aug 14, 2005, 09:44 AM // 09:44

actually you just gotta be fast about it, it took me forever to get my superior air

generik · Aug 14, 2005, 10:17 AM // 10:17

It is most definitely a bot behind all this.

I've been noticing the "pattern" behind the sells and buys.. they just sell starting from the mes runes down to warrior runes (as they are ordered by the trader) and buy back again using the same exact order.

What I hope is Anet just implement server side checks to flag accounts which are just TOO SUSPICIOUSLY FAST, and delete that account once and for all.

And probably delete it off the backups too. Even if it is not a bot I'm pretty sure such activities violate the EULA in "some way".

Mugon M. Musashi · Aug 14, 2005, 10:44 AM // 10:44

WTF, now every superior runes of every classes are unavailable O_o

thaumaturge · Aug 14, 2005, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Ok the rune traders are stupid, I just tried without sucess to get a superior mesmer rune. I zone into several cities and went up to the trader, a few times it was there then I requested a quote and they always run out of stock, what the hell is this crap. :/

Old Dood · Aug 14, 2005, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaumaturge

Ok the rune traders are stupid, I just tried without sucess to get a superior mesmer rune. I zone into several cities and went up to the trader, a few times it was there then I requested a quote and they always run out of stock, what the hell is this crap. :/

Yes..that is Exactly what is happening. You have to keep hammering away at it until you get one. It is doable.

Mugon M. Musashi · Aug 14, 2005, 10:56 AM // 10:56

but it's not supposed to be like this
I smell something fishy there
several bots buying and selling at the same time ?

Onito · Aug 14, 2005, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Hmmmm. A evil conspiracy?

noblepaladin · Aug 14, 2005, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Think about it, what the hell is a horder going to do with weird runes like Necro Soul Reaping, Ranger Beastmastery, Mesmer fast casting, and the less popular ones that almost nobody would put into their armor? I tried helping people get runes at low prices because I know when to try to buy them to have the best chances of getting a rune and nobody wants those runes from me, even if I sell at trader price. This is a good thing, those rich bots are draining some of their gold away for stuff that nobody really wants (they just complain they can't buy it, but they really don't want to buy it). The monk runes are the ones that some people would actually use (except that most people who wants a 105 monk probably has one already). I had a very hard time selling the Monk runes I obtained from the trader at low prices (same as trader prices) because it seems like most people expect the traders to eventually start having stock soon. It's going to be hard to keep buying up the runes like that as the days continue, it's very expensive.

DarkZeal · Aug 15, 2005, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I got a bunch of monk runes after the price dropped. It's not really that hard to keep except for the lack of inventory space. I'm gonna keep these runes until 1) Anet reinstates captalism within the game 2) The game goes down because many people are leaving after getting sick of grinding for their armor
3) buy out the market so that people will still have to pay high for them <--what people are doing now

Now the only way to get even close to having enough money for post Dorknar armor is to farm with a 105 monk(which people aren't gonna have a problem getting now), which is just expoitive but more time consuming, not to mention using up more bandwidth. Also the people that can afford to buy stacks of Ectos still get to sell them high, so if you weren't at the right place at the right time when the price reset, you're still nerfed.

NeVerMinD · Aug 15, 2005, 06:39 AM // 06:39

I WENT OFF BEFORE RESET.

It was that hard to hear about my mistake - i could sspit out my mind and trample on it around.

I DONT CRY ABOUT. I DONT WANT 2k Ectos. I DONT WANT TO BE RICH.

I WANT ONE +15>50 WEAP. NO CRYSTALLINE.
I WANT ONE OR TWO FISSURE PIECES . I can still buy them by fArming.

Only. If u COULD set the OIL PRIZE down ... WOULD u ALLOW anyone to buy ALL THE OIL IN THE WORLD ?? WOULD IT HAPPEN IN REAL WORLD ??

NO !!

THANKS ANET - Before, it was not PERFECT - it needed to THINK to get some stuff. Thats FAIR . Thats LIFE.
but U made it WORSE than in REAL LIFE. Sorry for my words but ...
U STUPID ******************** I CANT BELIEVE ur so FU***** DAMN, DUMB IDIOTS.

Ur UPDATE WERE GREAT. UR REACTION WERE GREAT. UR SUPPORT WERE GREAT.
HOW COULD U FOOL ALL PLAYER LIKE THIS.

THE HELL - SHUT DOWN SERVERS SOME HOUR FOR THIS.
RESET PRIZES TO HALF !!!! (ie. lil more REALISTIC)
BUT THIS ...
...I DONT EVEN FIND WORDS 4 IT.
I WENT CRAZY.

U GOT STUPID BY READING TOO MANY STUPID SUGGETIONS to make ur NICE game better ?? Dont READ SO MUCH. THINK A SECOND.

RETARDS.
NO PLAYER IS SUCH A NOOB LIKE U @Anet.
No FAULT at the Guys buying Ectos in MASSES.
If i`d go shopping and could buy FERRARIS + even SPACESHIPS for 100 Dollar..
.. which normal human would say NO ??!! Or even buy only ONE ??!!

FERRARI WOULD NEVER SELL so CHEAP.(for an half hour)
even G O D would not let this happen.
U ARE OUR GAME GODS. U CAN DO ALL. IT S UR GAME.
U MADE UR CREATION GOING INSANE.

I promise, if i wouldnt know ur human and very very failable ... i would inSTANTLY went to ur Central Building and STICK U ALL UR ECTO IN UR ASS.

U NERV FARMING. U PUT IN SOME MESMERS + SO ON. NICE.
U DIDNT KILL ANY SKILL. U DIDNT CHANGED EXISTING + FUNCTIONAL THINGS

I PLAY ON. I ONLY WANT U TO KNOW. I WILL NO LONGER PRAY TO UR SUPPORT. I WILL NOMORE POST ANY THING. I WILL MAKE NO MORE SUGGESTIONS TO ANYTHING. MAKE UR OWN SHIT. LEAVE US ALONE LIKE U've DONE IT NOW. PLAY WITH US. PLAY GOD.

at the end. SORRY. I got mad+crazy. I need a PSYCHO-DOC.
I SEND U THE B I L L

Ultimate_Gaara · Aug 15, 2005, 07:21 PM // 19:21

i feel sorry for your caplocks key..

well i think its finaly slowing down, this is the only econ thread ive seen sofar today.. and it better stay that way..

Numa Pompilius · Aug 15, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeVerMinD

I got mad+crazy. I need a PSYCHO-DOC.

Quoted for TRUTH.

Pandora's box · Aug 15, 2005, 08:15 PM // 20:15

It takes very sophisticated programming to run economic simulations. Its impossible in a game like this to run the economy better than only the very rough basics. Which means there will always be ways to fool the simulation. The only alternative is to use fixed prices at all stages. Of course one can also ignore the situation thinking: originally runes were not meant to be for sale, you had to find them. So any rune you CAN buy is an option you can take or leave.

Anyway, think of alternatives:
-No runetraders with superior runes (or maybe no runetraders at all??), just wait for what you find and exchange with fellow players (problem: some players have bought tons of runes and can play the market anyway they like).
-Fixed prices and always stock.
-Make runes 'unique' meaning you can own only 1 of the same at the time (yes thats a mean one

)

Pyxis · Aug 15, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeVerMinD

I WENT OFF BEFORE RESET.

It was that hard to hear about my mistake - i could sspit out my mind and trample on it around.

I DONT CRY ABOUT. I DONT WANT 2k Ectos. I DONT WANT TO BE RICH.

I WANT ONE +15>50 WEAP. NO CRYSTALLINE.
I WANT ONE OR TWO FISSURE PIECES . I can still buy them by fArming.

Only. If u COULD set the OIL PRIZE down ... WOULD u ALLOW anyone to buy ALL THE OIL IN THE WORLD ?? WOULD IT HAPPEN IN REAL WORLD ??

NO !!

THANKS ANET - Before, it was not PERFECT - it needed to THINK to get some stuff. Thats FAIR . Thats LIFE.
but U made it WORSE than in REAL LIFE. Sorry for my words but ...
U STUPID ******************** I CANT BELIEVE ur so FU***** DAMN, DUMB IDIOTS.

Ur UPDATE WERE GREAT. UR REACTION WERE GREAT. UR SUPPORT WERE GREAT.
HOW COULD U FOOL ALL PLAYER LIKE THIS.

THE HELL - SHUT DOWN SERVERS SOME HOUR FOR THIS.
RESET PRIZES TO HALF !!!! (ie. lil more REALISTIC)
BUT THIS ...
...I DONT EVEN FIND WORDS 4 IT.
I WENT CRAZY. I HATE U. I SPIT ON U.
U GOT STUPID BY READING TOO MANY STUPID SUGGETIONS to make ur NICE game better ?? Dont READ SO MUCH. THINK A SECOND.
AND STILL ... FU*** U @ Anet.
RETARDS. RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GON NOOBS. NO PLAYER IS SUCH A NOOB LIKE U @Anet.
No FAULT at the Guys buying Ectos in MASSES.
If i`d go shopping and could buy FERRARIS + even SPACESHIPS 4 100Dollar..
.. which normal human would say NO ??!! Or even buy only ONE ??!!

FERRARI WOULD NEVER SELL so CHEAP.(for an half hour)
even G O D would not let this happen.
U ARE OUR GAME GODS. U CAN DO ALL. IT S UR GAME.
U MADE UR CREATION GOING INSANE.

I promise, if i wouldnt know ur human and very very failable ... i would inSTANTLY went to ur Central Building and STICK U ALL U ECTO IN UR ASS.

U NERV FARMING. U PUT IN SOME MESMERS + SO ON. NICE.
U DIDNT KILL ANY SKILL. U DIDNT CHANGED EXISTING + FUNCTIONAL THINGS
how could u do this `? HOW? ???? ?
I PLAY ON. I ONLY WANT U TO KNOW. I WILL NO LONGER PRAY TO UR SUPPORT. I WILL NOMORE POST ANY THING. I WILL MAKE NO MORE SUGGESTIONS TO ANYTHING. MAKE UR OWN SHIT. LEAVE US ALONE LIKE U've DONE IT NOW. PLAY WITH US. PLAY GOD.

I've seen many Games with more/worse BUGS.
With Stupid programmmers. BUt here u point it out 4 us. ...
U ARE THE BUG. UR A BUG.
see i find no end - i am in rage over u. Gaile, whoever. .. ..
NO niCe Support this is. Only niCe TRYOUTS to be GOD/GOOD.
Ur in my eyes not more than the noobs here asking for godly graze for nothing.Ur TALKING more .. u THINK less.

at the end. SORRY. I got mad+crazy. I need a PSYCHO-DOC.
I SEND U THE B I L L

I usually hate posts like this, but this guy was able to express how I feel better than I would ever be able to. Thanks NeVerMinD

Angelina · Aug 15, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06

/agree

NeVerMinD · Aug 17, 2005, 11:37 AM // 11:37

yeeah ... i hate my caps and my Post ...

But i spended so many hours in this game ... wasting time ...
... its enough to get the bad things real ... i dont want this happen in game to me...

... I will delete some words ... personal ones ...
... no more posts+threads like this.

//edit ... THRUTH needs to be CAPSLOCKED + PINNED ON EVRY WALL !!
// Pandora ... u dont need to go to any other extremes.
talk less - think more - even its all so sophisti-whatever...
... its not that hard to AVOID major problems.