Curse

Doomlord_Slayermann · Aug 16, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

I deleted this post. It should never have existed. You can stop the flames anytime now.

wolfy3455 · Aug 16, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46

I'm assuming you also had two monks with you? Take out some of those four warriors for classes with armor ignoring damage. Maybe you could *gasp* take a mesmer?

Doomlord_Slayermann · Aug 16, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

We did have a mesmer. Demitrios doesn't enchant himself, he heals himself repeatedly (and he has probably about 20 healing prayers).

His armor is fairly weak anyway. He's a monk, after all...

Edge Martinez · Aug 16, 2005, 04:49 AM // 04:49

Was just going to say... we got through easy with just Mesmer secondaries. And to not waste the following on a seperate thread... When fighting the Unworthy folks to gain access to PvP, if you take a mesmer, when everyone attacks one monk, have him shut down the other one. I know folks are supposed to figure this stuff out on their own, but as I run there with mostly PUGs, it gets annoying losing to glorified henchmen.

EDIT: And he doesn't have to enchant himself. Echo a Backfire, drop it on him, steal one of his skills with Thievery, black him out, then Backfire him again. You can shackle him too if he's attacking.

Sereng Amaranth · Aug 16, 2005, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Malaise ftw

Doomlord_Slayermann · Aug 16, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

This is a petition about Thunderhead Keep, and a very annoying balance issue. I'm also sure that there are about five million posts about the Unworthy thing.

Malaise cannot begin to drain his massive energy reserves. We tried the energy drain thing too.

wolfy3455 · Aug 16, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

We did have a mesmer. Demitrios doesn't enchant himself, he heals himself repeatedly (and he has probably about 20 healing prayers).

His armor is fairly weak anyway. He's a monk, after all...

He does enchant himself (Aura of faith), and as you said, he does heal himself repeatedly, which is a perfect chance for backfire. Some other solutions would be: arcane conundrum + maelstorm, Dazed, necro skills that reduce healings effectiveness.

And for the unworthy thing... all I can say if people are complaining that they are impossible is wow.

Doomlord_Slayermann · Aug 16, 2005, 05:04 AM // 05:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfy3455

He does enchant himself (Aura of faith), and as you said, he does heal himself repeatedly, which is a perfect chance for backfire. Some other solutions would be: arcane conundrum + maelstorm, Dazed, necro skills that reduce healings effectiveness.

And for the unworthy thing... all I can say if people are complaining that they are impossible is wow.

It's still a massive balance issue. We couldn't kill him even with a Mesmer (and who knows, maybe the Mesmer was a n00b). It's not that he can't be killed, just that he's extrordinarily cheap.

Zeru · Aug 16, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Pve bosses have absurd amounts of energy. Not sure why.

Mursaat monk bosses are there to test if you have some indirect form of offense. I like them; people who shun mesmers and rangers get screwed and will hopefully learn that warrior+elementalist+monk is not the crux of pve. 1-2 Diversions will make them a joke. Distracting shots, arcane connundrum, backfire etc. Many options. Pve is too easy as it is. No point in making it easier.

Mercury Angel · Aug 16, 2005, 05:06 AM // 05:06

Distracting Shot, Diversion, Power Block {E}, Blackout, Choking Gas/Incendiary Arrows {E}+Tiger's Fury, Disrupting Chop, Dwarven Battle Stance {E}, Backbreaker {E}, Gale, tons of other disruption skills

Chained knockdowns prevent healing, or much of anything. Distracting Shot, Diversion, Power Block, Blackout, and Disrupting Blow lock out skills for an amount of time. Choking Gas/Incendiary Arrows/Dwarven Battle Stance interrupt skills every time you hit with your attacks for a limited duration.

I still can't believe they nerfed the boss in the Stone Summit Beastmaster quest.

(And not like people complain about jade scarabs and griffons. They actually made him weaker.)

Edit- Stupid drowsy typos.

wheel · Aug 16, 2005, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Nature's Renewal FTW!

Also, Quickening Zephyr + Energy Drain, Scourge Healing, backfire, Diversion, Debilitating shot, etc etc etc. just because you can't beat a good monk does NOT mean that it needs to be removed from the game. perhaps throw in a good KD warrior. it honestly can't be that hard. backfire and scourge healing would go a LONG way.

Elena · Aug 16, 2005, 05:15 AM // 05:15

get a ranger with concussion shot if he's able to get a interupt with that the monk boss gets dazed wich means he takes twice as long to cast and is interrupted by normal attacks :@

varyag · Aug 16, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

My denial/damage Mesmer had no problems with him. The team focused fire together with my shutdown attempts and that bag of bones dropped in seconds.

Experiment_Jon · Aug 16, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

IDK...I've never noticed him before. One of my teammates said that he'd drop malestorm on it and we'd be fine. IDK, just slaughtered him without noticing everytime...may have been the catapults too. But my team always did say that it was a difficult boss.

coleslawdressin · Aug 16, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

1. love thy mesmer

2. who is this guy? this quest is easy.

sino-soviet · Aug 16, 2005, 05:31 AM // 05:31

I think its humorous how people complain that their warrior/monk/ele team actually *gasp* failed at one point! A mesmer using backfire or maelstrom from an ele should bring down ANY boss.

Shayul · Aug 16, 2005, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Odd...my party never had a problem with this guy. And we didn't have any mesmers or rangers, either. Just some wars, some eles, me (a healer), and a necro blood healer. Ah well.

dargon · Aug 16, 2005, 06:30 AM // 06:30

Never had a problem with him, Perfected Armor on the other hand...

Helios · Aug 16, 2005, 06:36 AM // 06:36

There's a mursaat boss?
*jaw drops*

Never noticed him. I just remember Dagnar and the Confessor.

My group had 2 rangers, 1 warrior, 1 necro, 2 healers, 1 nuker and 1 mesmer last time I beat it.

PieXags · Aug 16, 2005, 06:55 AM // 06:55

He was the very boss I fought when I beat the mission, our team was one N/Me (me), one Mo/E, and the rest were henchies. It took us about 10 minutes to kill him. Monk bosses are pretty damn tough to beat. The Mo/E with me brought meteor shower and other such spells, I continued to do health degen, a few interrupts, whatever I could and uh...we just wittled him down until he died.

Also it's the last mission on the southern shiverpeaks, it SHOULD be hard by all means, I wish there were more tough bosses like that.