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Sayshina · Aug 14, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

I wasn't suggesting that the only people who complain about PvP haven't really PvPed before; I've never heard any iQ members complain that "We need prettier and more pvp maps", have you?

You said "anyone complaining about pvp has only done 4v4...". Allow me to repeat myself. You said ANYONE ...

The guildmaster for LOTD posted a massive flame of Gaile Grey soon after release, I'm not sure what forum it was on, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't on just about all of them. It might have gotten locked, as most of these forums are EXTREEMLY carebare oriented, but there's a decent chance the search button will turn it up somewhere. It's pretty badly written, with the profanity taking up around 80% of the total word count, but it's also entertaining. And it's vastly better informed than you are sir.

Aug 14, 2005, 08:29 AM // 08:29

its on the LotD site written by Hades. It may be old and inflammotory but most of the stuff in it is still accurate.

Some iQ members have said something about the need for more PvP maps. Personally I'd rather they fix up what they have now instead of adding new maps, but the PvP game needs some life and almost anything is worth a shot now.

Takkun · Aug 14, 2005, 08:43 AM // 08:43

A lot of the stuff mentioned on the first post is something ArenaNet is already aware of.... but its the thought that counts. Plus I do believe they have acknowledged that they know some of these problems in a few fansite fridays plus are looking for a solution that won't completely change the game.

I'm sure if Gaile were here she'd be happy you suggested some solutions rather than just saying the problem.

Some of it though just goes against the game's philosophy itself... for example only being allowed 8 skills during a mission.

Sayshina · Aug 14, 2005, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by John Faint

I see your point, ExDeity, but I never said 1v1 or 2v2 was a bad idea. But, if he thinks diablo is a better game because it has more people playing, by all means go play it. It is, as he makes it sound, the perfect game.

Hows about you slow down there sparky.

I'll be the first to admit that playing computer games is not the best use of my time. It's also not something my friends, my peers, understand at all. They put it down to the inner computer nerd in me, and I suspect most of them think it's more than a little strange.

They also think I'm nuts for spending my vacation hiking in Mt. Ranier Nat. Park, all by myself, because I enjoy the solitude. Going out solo to live with the bugs is NOT what very many of my friends consider a vacation, but there you go.

I'm also a veteran, a gun owner, a former motorcycle racer (semi-pro), and a bleading heart liberal. I do some painting, and am soon getting into metal sculpture.

My point is this: We are allowed to have different interests in life. It really is a free country. Ordering me to grow up because I don't care to bow to your ideas of what I should be doing sort of makes me wonder just how long this is going to remain a free country.

Anyone with half a brain should have been able to pick up on a bit of sarcasm in my original post. The truth is that I generaly don't enjoy hanging out with teenagers. Most of them are insipid, insulting, and so damned positive they know everything it's just not worth even trying to set them straight. If you tried to tell a virgin he's wrong about sex, he would probably argue with you saying "his friend Timmy said..." as if virgin Timmy were some sort of authority.

In a very few instances I have actualy had decent conversations with players who were obviously a lot younger than myself. But even then it becomes uncomfortable shortly. It just feels a bit creepy. I don't know how to explain it better than to say you'll understand when you're older. There ARE fundamental differences, and for all the pretense that you're all grown up it simply isn't true.

Diablo the perfect game? Hardly. If I had to pick a "perfect" game, I couldn't, as someone else stated it doesn't exist. If I were to pick my 10 favorite games, they would all have been made in the 80's, the golden age of comp games. Back before the clones, back when every month there was at least 2 or 3 new games that did something nobody else had ever thought of, before the entire industry got a bad case of sequalitis, games were not really great. But at least they tried, and they did amazing things on 2 megabytes and 8 Mhz.

I remember my teamate coming into work with the newest rpg, holding up 2 5.25 floppies (there were 360k floppies), and saying: "No game should ever take up more than 1 floppy".

I would never, ever try to claim the Diablo is anywhere near perfect. What I was trying to point out is this: Blizzard is making a greater effort, and actualy doing more, to adress the needs (not necessarily wants) of their community in a 5 year old game that hasn't made them any money in years, than Anet is with GW RIGHT NOW. And the player base reflects that fact. Blizzard obviously cares more about their customers.

My primary complaint about GW is that for reasons I am at a total loss to explain, the devs have allowed a tiny portion of the player base to dictate the entire direction the game has taken. Even when they throw the PvP community a bone (faction anyone?) their primary focus is obviously not doing anything to offend the carebears. Everything, form the changes at release to every single patch that has followed, has clearly been with the carebears as the primary focus, in many cases the only focus. Christ, when the anounced faction the felt the need to throw in an anouncement of future PvE content lest the carebears take offense at not being the center of attention. I have never seen a dev team show such contempt for its general player base.

This game had, I say HAD, a fantastic premise. The first fantasy shooter, as it were. A shooter for the rest of us, the ones who aren't pimply faced, who drink things aimed at slowing down rather than whatever the latest energy drink is (I'm told it's balls?), who don't have a mouse surgicaly implanted. This was going to be a shooter that actualy required some strategy, some thought, and wasn't just another twitch fest. I was a Navy corpsman, attached to Marine field units. A medic. I served under Reagan and Bush (the less dumb one). You'd think I might enjoy a game that allowed me to "relive the glory days". But GTA has more to do with the real life racing I did than any shooter has to do with the real life combat training I had. This game, GW, was supposed to be better. Why is it so hard for you carebears to deal with the fact that some of us might not be so happy with them turning it into WoW light? I understand you're happy with the changes, they were done for you. Why can't you even understand that your changes have also ruined the game. I say again, if everything is roses, where is everyone? Why aren't they playing? The idea that "they'll come back from time to time when new content comes out" is a pretty pathetic business model, and seems an unlikely one as well.

One final comment. I take great exception to the many people who claim this game is "free", or "essentialy free" simply because it doesn't charge a monthly fee. Comp games have been around longer than most of you have been alive, and monthly fees have been around for the last couple of years. For well over 90% of the industries existance, you bought it, and that was it.

I paid for this game. If it had been free, as in shareware or freeware, I would have nothing to complain about. There are lots of older games that you can find free, that have no support today, whose makers may not even be in business anymore. You may or may not be able to get those games running on your new comp, which is several times faster than the ones it was intended to run on, and which often leads to some serious headaches.

In those cases, the game actualy is free, and there is nothing to complain about. By the way, in SOME of those cases, the devs still will provide some help if you email them, and often will do a better job of giving their players what they need than Anet is doing here and now. When it really is free, it's buyer beware.

STOP CALLING THIS GAME FREE!

Eternal Equinox · Aug 14, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Top ten issues? There are a couple but i'm not going to complain about what's not going to get fixed. My main issue with this game is probably the same as everyone elses, i beat the game. What to do now? I'll do some GvG & HoH. It all gets boring after a while, i just don't know what to do anymore. Today i stood in Lion's Arch for an hour correcting someone's misspelling of "Ectoplasm" out of boredom. I mean yeah, i love my guild and HoH can be fun sometimes, but after the game is done all there is to do is GvG and HoH. I'm also still waiting impatiently for the "Summer Update". Today is August 14th, as far as i know summer is almost over, where's my content Anet?

Simply put, i'm bored. I have nothing more to do in this game.

heist23 · Aug 18, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Quintus: I meant that i don't have to pay 13 dollars a month to play guild wars. that's why i bought this game instead of world of warcraft.

Weezer_Blue · Aug 18, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37

I not only think your choice of a top 10 is flawed, but completely disagree with several of them. 1 million skills, but you can only use 8 is there for a reason. The game was supposed to be real-time Magic - that card game. Not "lets collect 150 skills and then click through my skill list as fast as I can making myself invincible".

Imp · Aug 18, 2005, 06:07 AM // 06:07

Just my 2 cents

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