Curse

Pure Domination · Aug 25, 2005, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Ok, this is not whining, this is a serious question. We all know there are many possibilies for the mods a weapon can have (hexed, under 50, over 50, always with neg. effects as long with the dmg %). I have to say, I farmed like a mofo for the last weeks and only found one (in numbers "1") weapon with 15>50 which was, oh well, a hammer :/ I gained ~3.2 million exp in this time but not even a sword with acceptable stats (most are 11% (hexed) or such a crap or just don´t even have extra dmg :P). So I wonder how rare these 15>50 really are ? Is there some kind of statistic so maybe every 100th gold swod has a perfect dmg mod ?

RotteN · Aug 25, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13

can't give you any real numbers, but i rough guess on how many gold weapons i've had as drops so far would be around 100-150, 2 of them had 15>50. judging from own experience, the higher the lvl of the monster that drops the gold, the better the dmg mod will be ...

Starsky-sama · Aug 25, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

/luck.

most ppl are happy to use the collector's w/ +15%dmg(hp>50%).

* I would say maybe every 1 mil. sword is a +15%dmg(hp>50%), but again, some ppl probably have gotten one of these in consecutive runs (farm/missions/etc...).

* same w/ +15%dmg (constant)

/me thinks it's random luck/chance.

(If someone ever finds out the "average". plz do not hesistate to share it.lol)

-cheers.

LifeInfusion · Aug 25, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starsky-sama

most ppl are happy to use the collector's w/ +15%dmg(hp>50%).

* I would say maybe every 1 mil. sword is a +15%dmg(hp>50%), but again, some ppl probably have gotten one of these in consecutive runs (farm/missions/etc...).

* same w/ +15%dmg (constant)

/me thinks it's random luck/chance.

(If someone ever finds out the "average". plz do not hesistate to share it.lol)

-cheers.

As far as I remember collector only has 15 in stance or enchanted.

I have only found one 15>50 item, and it was a 8 req. Flamberge, so I am using it because I will never be able to purchase one if I had not found one.

If it were up to me, I'd use 15>50 instead of 15 always. Why? 15% always has the -10 armor while attacking, -5 energy, or -1 energy regen modifier.
If you get a 15% always with no such modifiers, never sell it because it is one in a lifetime and is priceless (not even 500 million should lue you to sell it because you won't find another one like it).

I have found plenty of 10-13 over 50 items, however. That includes a longsword 13 over 50, but it is not max damage

EDIT: Your best bet is to go in southern shiverpeaks, fire island chain,or the Underworld or Fissure. That is where the best items drop, for some reason.

The Great Al · Aug 25, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

i like 15% while enchanted, because i'd never be able to afford 15>50, and also, as a w/mo, I just keep Mending on at all times anyway, so its just as good as 15>50

rabwatt · Aug 25, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Ive got 2.4mill exp and I only found one 15%>50 and it wasn't even max damage!!!!!!
Found 2 14%>50 though

Elythor · Aug 25, 2005, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Buy a +14%>50 and be happy. Do you seriously think extra 1% dmg amounts to anything?

Max hammer:
+15% -> 35 * 1.15 = 40.25
+14% -> 35 * 1.14 = 39.9

Max Axe:
+15% -> 28 * 1.15 = 32.2
+14% -> 28 * 1.14 = 31.92

Max Sword:
+15% -> 22 * 1.15 = 25.3
+14% -> 22 * 1.14 = 25.08

Statistically +15% makes no difference compared to +14%. So why pay the extra 50k for it??

Sciros Darkblade · Aug 25, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Elythor what are you doing? Do not release top-secret information! I must continue to make $$$ off playing the 15>50 market!

Xonic · Aug 25, 2005, 06:23 PM // 18:23

I like 15 if in stance. my warrior is in some sort of stance usually.

lishi · Aug 25, 2005, 06:27 PM // 18:27

only find 2 14%>50%

LifeInfusion · Aug 25, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elythor

Buy a +14%>50 and be happy. Do you seriously think extra 1% dmg amounts to anything?

Max hammer:
+15% -> 35 * 1.15 = 40.25
+14% -> 35 * 1.14 = 39.9

Max Axe:
+15% -> 28 * 1.15 = 32.2
+14% -> 28 * 1.14 = 31.92

Max Sword:
+15% -> 22 * 1.15 = 25.3
+14% -> 22 * 1.14 = 25.08

People Ebay gold. lol
Oh no, the fraction of a point of damage makes such a big difference.

Just to prove how insane people are...There was a warrior ingame that told me he had 400 armor and that his sundering forked sword (no clue what the percent was) is better than a 3/1 vampiric. I argued with him about how armor doesn't stack...How he can get to fissure I do not know. He then proceeded to say that sundering ignores 10% of armor, and said that he woudl do double damage to people with 400 armor since 360 armor takes double damage compared to 400. Cruel world.

Anyway, the point is people are dumb, they don't have anything better ot do than ebay gold and farm for hours to get their 10/10 sundering fellblades of +30Hp fortitude for hundreds of thousands of gold or w/e it costs.

Offtopic: I am looking for a Long sword 13-15 over 50% health with 10 req or less (clean or with crap mods, no sundering/fortitude because I want to find my own mods to put on). Will pay a decent amount.

Raumoheru · Aug 25, 2005, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

As far as I remember collector only has 15 in stance or enchanted.

I have only found one 15>50 item, and it was a 8 req. Flamberge, so I am using it because I will never be able to purchase one if I had not found one.

If it were up to me, I'd use 15>50 instead of 15 always. Why? 15% always has the -10 armor while attacking, -5 energy, or -1 energy regen modifier.
If you get a 15% always with no such modifiers, never sell it because it is one in a lifetime and is priceless (not even 500 million should lue you to sell it because you won't find another one like it).

I have found plenty of 10-13 over 50 items, however. That includes a longsword 13 over 50, but it is not max damage

EDIT: Your best bet is to go in southern shiverpeaks, fire island chain,or the Underworld or Fissure. That is where the best items drop, for some reason.

maybe the best items drop there because they are the higher level, harder to fight in areas.

LiQuId StEeL · Aug 25, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

I have gotten probably 300 golds (max dmg... i have good luck finding them, but always get pruning). Total 15>50's are 3 bows, 1 sword, one axe and 3 hammers. I seem to always get 15 enchant (and am damn happy to get it)

zehly · Aug 25, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

I'm with Elythor on this topic. The only time I love 15>50 is when I find it on a gold item... then I know I've got some money comin my way.

Eternal Equinox · Aug 25, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Meh, in my 1000+ hours of playing this game i've only found about 3 15>50 items. But i do get alot of 14,15>50 while hexed,enchanted and stuff like that.

So i'd say 15>50 items are pretty rare.

Zrave · Aug 26, 2005, 12:26 PM // 12:26

I've gotten a few thousand rares, but I didn't keep any detailed records. Here are my estimates, assume large error margins :P

16% Health Above 50%
16% Health Below 50%
16% Vs Hexed Foes
16% Enchanted
16% Hexed
16% In Stance
1.5% -5 energy
1.5% -10 Armor While Attacking
0.5% -1 Health Regen
0.5% -1 Energy Regen

Of the 16% Health Above, I estimate the distribution to be:

2/16 - 15%
6/16 - 14%
6/16 - 13%
2/16 - 12%

The mod chance seems to be irrelevant of requirement and weapon damage. Hope that's useful.