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ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07

3/1 vamp sword WOW! you gain 3 hp per attack and lose 1 health regen all the time!

I have 10 in healing for my w/mo if i cast vigouros spirit that costs 5 energy and lasts 30 seconds i get 10 health per hit!! and no health regen negative!!.

aron searle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:12 PM // 13:12

if you have 15 attacking you at once

cyclone axe or hundred blades
15x3=45

Tigris Of Gaul · Sep 12, 2005, 01:12 PM // 13:12

That's 3 added damage to all of your attacks, it's not about the health gain.

Sekkira · Sep 12, 2005, 01:19 PM // 13:19

The health gain should really be there to balance out the health you lose. Vampiric stuff can be extremely useful. A 5:1 mod is good on just about anything due to it not only giving you more health per hit, but also adding 5 damage to your attacks that aren't counted as damage.

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:22 PM // 13:22

wow 3 extra damage! so i attack 10 time i made 30 extra damage.. that just not even one 5 energy power attack that i do.

the only time i would use it is with a cyclone axe... as a tanker in a warrior wall supported by monks.

and p.s. i do vigour spirit and live vigoursly (10 healing) = 20 health per attack x 15 = 300 health agaist 15 attackers when i switch to axe

aron searle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:24 PM // 13:24

so 345 with vamp sword.

You can always have 2 weopons, i swap my weopon before using cyclone then swap it back, works if you time it right.

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:27 PM // 13:27

i would much prefere having zelous hilt and gain 15 per attack then the extra 45 health while i am getting 300 anyway.

300 health + 15 energy per cyclone attack

or

345 health per cyclone attack

NinjaMonkey · Sep 12, 2005, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by aron searle

if you have 15 attacking you at once

cyclone axe or hundred blades
15x3=45

na-ah
hundred blades hits everything TWICE, so infact it would be (15x3)2=90

aron searle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Quote:

hundred blades hits everything TWICE, so infact it would be (15x3)2=90

Ive only used axes not swords, but that is pretty damn good.

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by NinjaMonkey

na-ah
hundred blades hits everything TWICE, so infact it would be (15x3)2=90

hundren blades is crap it does crap damage and take longer to recharge then cyclone axe.

also read what hundren blades does:

Hundrenblades

Swing twice at target foe and foes adjacent to your target.

so if you have 15 attacker surrounding you, your target that you use hundredbaldes on aint going to be adjacent to all 15!

now cyclone axe hit all foes adjacent to YOU!

plz learn more before you comment

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41

3 2 2
2 1 2
2 2 2

you are "1" your hundrenblades target is "3" the other enemies are "2", enemies that are hit are in BOLD, as you see hundren blades wont hit all your enemies

cycle axe will hit all the targets surrounding you "1"

3 2 2
2 1 2
2 2 2

target is 3 and all other foes get hit also (in bold)

Tigris Of Gaul · Sep 12, 2005, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Well, usually the point of warriors is to do damage, so what other prefix are you going to use? I don't care about the health gain, I just want to do as much damage as possible.

Sekkira · Sep 12, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

wow 3 extra damage! so i attack 10 time i made 30 extra damage.. that just not even one 5 energy power attack that i do.

the only time i would use it is with a cyclone axe... as a tanker in a warrior wall supported by monks.

and p.s. i do vigour spirit and live vigoursly (10 healing) = 20 health per attack x 15 = 300 health agaist 15 attackers when i switch to axe

You seem to forget the basis of adding 5 dmg to every attack. Think 20-27dmg sword or 10-33dmg axe. Add those to your current attacks, you're not only healing yourself without the aid of spells, but also doing more dps without the aid of spells as well.

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Tigris Of Gaul

Well, usually the point of warriors is to do damage, so what other prefix are you going to use? I don't care about the health gain, I just want to do as much damage as possible.

point of a warrior to do damage only

try an ele.. they will own your damage

warriors tank and do damage. (better tanks then damage dealers)

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

You seem to forget the basis of adding 5 dmg to every attack. Think 20-27dmg sword or 10-33dmg axe. Add those to your current attacks, you're not only healing yourself without the aid of spells, but also doing more dps without the aid of spells as well.

tell me how you add 5 damage to a sword attack the max is 3/1 vamp on sword.....

salja Wachi · Sep 12, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

tell me how you add 5 damage to a sword attack the max is 3/1 vamp on sword.....

you cannot that is why you need to get a 5:1 vamp mod

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

also as i said... wow 3 more damage.. and against multiple enimies (15) I would much prefere 15 energy per attack (zelous) then 45 extra health(vamp 3/1)from a cycle axe, when i would be getting 300 health from enchantments (live vigoursly and vigorous spirit), and you will need enchantment against 15 monsters on you (unless you farm spods

)

ddoogle · Sep 12, 2005, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

you cannot that is why you need to get a 5:1 vamp mod

LOL!!!!!! thats bow and hammer ONLY go read some stuff like this

http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=125

Eripens Vitae · Sep 12, 2005, 02:08 PM // 14:08

I can't see your point in here, you just said that you found vamp for a sword bad. Well, in my experience vamp makes you have a 9-31 axe, instead of 6-28, which is really good, and, if you're not a monk as secondary, you may not need it at all. If you take ranger as secondary, you do tiger's fury, and the vamp upgrade actually heals for more than the health degen gives you. Of course zealous is a great mod too, but only if you're a mana dependant build, such as the w/mo. I'd say that if you want to do damage, get a nice vamp mod, if you want to tank, get a zealous mod. In pvp, you'll never want to tank, since you'll be targeted last anyways, so there is vamp a lot more useful.

Numa Pompilius · Sep 12, 2005, 02:10 PM // 14:10

I've got a 3:1 axe, and it does keep my health topped up provided there's enough enemies around, the more the merrier. When the enemies start dropping, so there's only one or two left, things get iffy, as cyclone axe doesn't help much anymore. Latecomer griffons can get real annoying.
So I nearly always use my 1:1 Zealous sword instead for farming. It doesn't do much damage, and doesn't give any health, but the Balt aura, wrath, zealots & healing breeze it powers does oh so much more...

So for me: zealous ftw!