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Ensign · Jun 17, 2005, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus

Right, but the point is *most* healing spells are, not all. A prot staff doesn't help with healing (or resurrecting), nor does it speed up skills that're handy with quick recharge like heal other. A 20/20 healing staff/focus doesn't give me coverage on prot skills.

Right, but my point is that on any given Healing/Protection build, either the 20/20 healing staff or the 20/20 protection staff is going to be better than a 10/10 universal one. Which one will be better is going to vary from build to build, of course.

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus

A collector's holy staff looks just like any other holy staff. Their protective icons are no different than the ones I find. You should be clear: that's why people buy eternal shields, fellblades, and storm bows.

Oh, definitely. While gold text is 'valuable' to an extent, it's the special graphics that people are after. Though I have to imagine that even if items did all look the same people would still splurge on 'gold rares' just so that they'd be using something rare. Because, really, what should they be spending their money on?

Peace,
-CxE

Slade xTekno · Jun 17, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Right, but my point is that on any given Healing/Protection build, either the 20/20 healing staff or the 20/20 protection staff is going to be better than a 10/10 universal one. Which one will be better is going to vary from build to build, of course.

Oh, definitely. While gold text is 'valuable' to an extent, it's the special graphics that people are after. Though I have to imagine that even if items did all look the same people would still splurge on 'gold rares' just so that they'd be using something rare. Because, really, what should they be spending their money on?

Peace,
-CxE

The first is true. One attribute may have spells with longer cooldowns/casting times than the other. That, or one may not need a faster casting speed.

You'd be suprised on that second statement, though. I've seen people buy an inferior gold item over a much better purple one.

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 17, 2005, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by Caco-Cola

Both arguements thus far suck.

For one, it's not a gold sink. The money is never leaving the economy.

Now if they had a vendor who sold..whatever shield someone wanted and charged 100k for it THEN it'd be a gold sink, because the money would be essentially deleted.

Second of all, money isn't worth anything unless you spend it? So basically instead of having 30k I should just go spend it on some worthless item that is actually worse just because it 'looks cool'?

Wow...how uh...stupid.

I'm with Caco on this one.
Anyone who pays more than 1.5k for anything is a chump.

Of course I mean that in the most respectful way possible, your chumpness.

Tal

NightStalkerXT · Jun 17, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by AcidRock

maybe just because money isn't worth anything if you don't spend it, since everything is almost given for free in this game and money is useless.... So why is there money anyway in this game ?

Excuse me?!? Dude I just spent 8k getting my armor upgraded to a better one (crafting materials ect...cause I did not have enough) and I still dont have the best armor because I am not ascended yet. I only have like 13 plat set aside for the "good" armor. I have to agree with the original poster...why pay ridiculous prices for stuff. I see people selling Dragon Swords all the time wanting 5plat or more and the thing only does 14-20 dmg. Hell I got a long sword from a collector that does that. Then I put some upgrades on it. Who cares if a dragon sword "looks cooler" because it has flames! It does not do anything that mine does not do so I will be damned if I pay extra for the look of the item!!

Reiden Argrock · Jun 17, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36

hehe, I sold a mod'd dragon sword for 500g, only 15-21 dmg, but I sold it for only 500g cause I hate the damn things, everyone has one, unless they use axe, then they all have chaos axe,
I'll keep my individuality and my better axe that doesn't glow thank you

as for the designer armor? why not, I bought my armor in draknars for 1.5k each, and got it all rigged up with runes and what not, but I didn't stop hunting and exploring, so then I got all this money because I'm still playing the game, what else am i supposed to spend it on,
might as well waste it on cooler looking armor, it doesn't hurt anything

ManadartheHealer · Jun 17, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39

I am very cheap...

My monk that beat the game still has the armor I bought at like Yak's Bend-Kryta area (30AL

). And since I already beat the game and have all but 2 monk skills, I see no need to waste all the money I have accumulated in storage. I can waste that on other characters

Eclair · Jun 17, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Yes, but some people have 500k setting in their stash unused. Cool items make people feel cool, so when money is just sitting there collecting dust, they see it as an opportunity to have some fun.

Winds of Blood · Jun 18, 2005, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I think your appearance is better then your actual items. I support this 300%. Id rather have 10 defence armor and look like the biggest baddest person , then have have the Gladiator armor (can you say ugly?)

Anyway, how look does have an impact in some cases. For example, If your in temple of ages and people look at your 15k armor, they know your experienced and youve actually done something extra in the game. I dont know if i made my point clear but looking good is always helpful

Mr Jazzy · Sep 22, 2005, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar

I'm with Caco on this one.
Anyone who pays more than 1.5k for anything is a chump.

Of course I mean that in the most respectful way possible, your chumpness.

Tal

i like your 15k armor, tal

Phrozenflame · Sep 22, 2005, 05:31 AM // 05:31

ok ok...heres the deal, I thought the same..y pay mroe for an item? thing is when you get that item, you'll want to better one..Anet is exploiting you for being a human being

, my money is stacking up and frankly I dunno what to do with it, I'm thinking of getting a FoW armor, 15k is just too common now.

Its about looking elite...its about letting others know you're better than them...and frankly speaking, someone who can afford FoW usually means that person has got alot of money, hence has more gaming hour under his belt and hence he is likely to be better than yyou..however this does not apply all the time.

Racthoh · Sep 22, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

When you've pretty much done everything, then yeah you're gonna wanna look your best. You might as well, what else are you going to do with it.

The only thing that bugs me is in FoW and UW and a lousy, no where near max damage chaos axe or storm bow drops and people freak. And when one is max, everyone says "Lucky, nice drop". Who cares? The thing is white, no inherent mods, trash to me.

Best bet is to exploit the system, found some sweet looking stuff and sell it.

Xue Yi Liang · Sep 22, 2005, 06:39 AM // 06:39

If you happen to be one of the players who has over a million in gold and items - spending 100K or more is no big deal ... so why not buy it? I farmed up a small fortune then I saw a unique item that had stats unparalleled. As the bidding crept up to 90K+ I just intervened and offered 250k and closed the deal. It felt like I hit the bidders with some Elite bidding shutdown skill (guilty pleasure).

Sure, you might argue that 250k for an item that's only slightly better is a waste. But it's only wasteful if you don't have much more than that to spend. If it's a small fraction of your total assets then it's no big deal.

Rydier · Sep 22, 2005, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus

A 20/20 healing staff/focus doesn't give me coverage on prot skills.

Anyone actually found a 20/20 healing/prot staff collector?

Tijger · Sep 22, 2005, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

When you've pretty much done everything, then yeah you're gonna wanna look your best. You might as well, what else are you going to do with it.

The only thing that bugs me is in FoW and UW and a lousy, no where near max damage chaos axe or storm bow drops and people freak. And when one is max, everyone says "Lucky, nice drop". Who cares? The thing is white, no inherent mods, trash to me.

Best bet is to exploit the system, found some sweet looking stuff and sell it.

Agreed, a lot of people fawn over my Storm Bow when its no better or worse then a Longbow except for the looks, mine happens to be a very nice gold one I found in UW but I wouldnt have paid 100K for it. I've found pretty meh Storm Bows I've been able to sell for 10x the value of a similar Longbow. I'll exploit that any day.

Kazahana · Sep 22, 2005, 09:13 AM // 09:13

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus

A 20/20 healing staff/focus doesn't give me coverage on prot skills. [ ]

take an energy hit and get a 20/20 healing foci and worths rod

EDIT: oh and collectors dont have +30 hp always 8 str req shields

fergburger · Sep 23, 2005, 05:29 PM // 17:29

In Lion's Arch while looking to buy a clean max Sickle, I was PM'd by a seller saying he had one for sale for 5k... I thought "ok..." (normally I don't pay more than 1k for a clean max anything, but since I really want one of these, I was gonna make an exception). He opened trade and tossed the sickle in, and it was 5-10 dmg. A

fter inquiring about the bizzare price for a low teir item, he claimed these are far more rare than finding a Perfect Chaos, Fellblade, ect...he went on for a while after trade was closed and I walked away. Prices for anything are getting crazy - not just gold or greens from what I see.

Teufel Eldritch · Sep 23, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus

A prot staff doesn't help with healing (or resurrecting)...

You are absolutely correct... however a Prot staff/wand/focii does help with Rebirth. =)

sleazeh · Sep 23, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

I am very cheap...

My monk that beat the game still has the armor I bought at like Yak's Bend-Kryta area (30AL

). And since I already beat the game and have all but 2 monk skills, I see no need to waste all the money I have accumulated in storage. I can waste that on other characters

Not to drag this off topic, but I feel that by end-game PvE, or in PvP, you are doing a great disservice to your team not having max AL armor.
Aesthetic considerations, their relative value to you and your bank account, and degree of frugality are one thing.
Using Yak's armor in those situations is another.

Yichi · Sep 23, 2005, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by Rydier

Anyone actually found a 20/20 healing/prot staff collector?

the 20/20 staff collector is outside of thirsty river in the desert for healing staffs

Arcanis the Omnipotent · Sep 23, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Its my opinion that everyone should just choose weapons depending on their needs.

I'm a Mesmer/Aeromancer who studies Illusion and Domination. I have 3 weapons:
Purple:
Insightful Jeweled Staff of Defense
11-22 Chaos Damage (Illusion Req)
Improves Casting time on Air Magic Skills (13% Chance)
Energy +5
Armor +5
20% Damage (I always customize)

Gold:
Hale Air Staff of Fortitude
11-22 Lightning Damage
Improves Casting speed using Domination Skills (18%)
Health +29
Health +23
20% Damage

Blue Collectors 20/20
Defensive Inscribed Staff of Domination Magic
11-22 Chaos Damage
Improves Domination Cast time: (20% Chance)
Improves Domination Recharge Time (20% Chance)
Domination Magic +1 (19% Chance when using skills) *Really want a 20%*
Armor +5
20% Damage

And soon I'll be getting my Green weapon, the Willcrusher, so then I'll have one of each color.