Curse

Sanji · Sep 24, 2005, 12:05 PM // 12:05

This is unfortunately a true story, most of the quotes are slightly paraphrased due to my less than photographic memory except for the title. (being too absurd a comment to forget given the context)

I was doing Thirsty River with my Necromancer/Monk, focused on minions and a little bit of Blood love to help the casters with their energy.

While talking with a party that just recruited me I was asked "Do you have Well of Power?"

I respond "No, I do not, that's an elite." (assuming that would be accepted considering the Desert is the first Area in the natural progression of the game you can get one)

What was said next boggled my mind. "Can't find a decent Blood Necro these days."

I'm not sure if this person knew that Well of Power was all the way in Mineral Freaking Springs, or if she meant Well of Blood but the idea that being twinked is being "decent" kind of struck me as funny and kind of sad.

Because Lord only knows I still hate going to Mineral Spring at level 20 with all my attribute points.

Charcoal Ann · Sep 24, 2005, 12:14 PM // 12:14

and anyway BiP is a better Blood Magic elite (IMO)

when i'm necroing i get really frustrated because people say: do you have well of power??
i say: i can equip it.
they say: do it.

during the mission i will call my well. then ping it. then be all on my lonesome inside it. BiP is better because the others can't dodge that one.
I'm amazed they expect a necro to have Well of Power in his/her arsnal in the desert.

they seem to be equating decent with 'has lots of money to be run to granite citadel at lvl 12'

i'm fairly sure BiP is easier to get as well.

Sagius Truthbarron · Sep 24, 2005, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Dude.. I'm a W/mo. I get all my good skills from the desert and Icecaves of Sorrow.

Sanji · Sep 24, 2005, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

Dude.. I'm a W/mo. I get all my good skills from the desert and Icecaves of Sorrow.

Having played a W/Mo, E/Me, Mo/Me, R/N, and N/Mo I'd have to say W/Mo is the least reliant on skills out of any of them since they have a lot of vanilla "do stuff better"/damage skills than "do stuff" skills such as most spells.

Kaizume · Sep 24, 2005, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Well, its hard to find a lot of "decent" players these days in a pug. There's bound to be a bad apple. On my fissure run lately, they guy died like cake, so I asked what armor he had. He said the one from lion's arch....

Sanji · Sep 24, 2005, 12:23 PM // 12:23

One would only assume you can get to Droknar's Forge before doing Fissure of Woe.

My case was slightly different.

Diplo · Sep 24, 2005, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann

during the mission i will call my well. then ping it. then be all on my lonesome inside it.

Yeah, it amazes me how many people don't seem to know to stand inside the well after you've created it. Many times I've seen party members who are low on health standing just outside the well. Othertimes I've seen members run away from it, presumably thinking it will harm (rather than heal) them.

Sanji · Sep 24, 2005, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by Diplo

Yeah, it amazes me how many people don't seem to know to stand inside the well after you've created it. Many times I've seen party members who are low on health standing just outside the well. Othertimes I've seen members run away from it, presumably thinking it will harm (rather than heal) them.

On the flip side, party members love taking baths in the Wells of Suffering in Sorrow's Furnance.

It's kind of funny how some players love to hang out in the middle of bad AoEs but will always run away from good ones.

Swarnt Brightstar · Sep 24, 2005, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Yup, I cant tell the difference of the wells, it's just a big green circle on the ground, so I generally stay away from all of 'em, especially in sorrows. In anywhere else I jump in, see what happens

EinValentine · Sep 24, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

They really ought to differentiate Wells by color. Its really annoying that all of them look the same.

lg5000 · Sep 24, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

I have the same problem.. is this green good or bad? Normally, you find out pretty fast though.

And the fact that people want Necro's only because they can't manage their energy is sad. If they have energy problems, they should take the henchie necro who seems to want to have an on-going affair with my monk.... and has once or twice tried with my mesmer... the guy is creapy but I drag him along if I'm with healer/prot henchies, for their benefit.

Charcoal Ann · Sep 24, 2005, 03:32 PM // 15:32

even the very best healers can be hard done to keep a group alive through a prolonged encounter. i find that my energy will eventually fall to 0. no matter how careful i am.
in these situations BiP is the only option really. i my experience the 2 pips that the well might give (if they get in or not) has very little effect. and no one else will ever get into wells. well i've met maybe one per Fissure team.
the energy regen of well of power isn't as important as the health regen. so why not well of blood?

pfb · Sep 24, 2005, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by Diplo

Yeah, it amazes me how many people don't seem to know to stand inside the well after you've created it. Many times I've seen party members who are low on health standing just outside the well. Othertimes I've seen members run away from it, presumably thinking it will harm (rather than heal) them.

The best excuses I've had for not standing in it are:

"I thought it only healed you"

"I'm casting my own"

Sagius Truthbarron · Sep 24, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58

Well of Blood: Green circle with star thing gurgling blood in it which turns = stand in it

Well of Power: Star thing that keeps appearing, growing large and then disapearing, making an almost electronic pulsing noise = Stand in it

Well of Suffering/Well of Profane: I forgot what these look like, but you'll have the icon for them in your top left when they are affecting you. You might also notice that your health decreases by 3 degen for suffering and an inability to cast enchants while in a Well of Profane

Carinae · Sep 24, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37

I don't want to have another WoP vs BiP flame fest, but there are advantages to both. I wish I could carry both for diferent situations.

I'm laughing as I read about teammates standing in a WoS, I though I was plagued with stupid people. Apparently it' universal.

In other peoples defense, the wells look very similar, unles you are a necro yourelf, they are difficult to distinguish. Although, the health degen of WoS should be a good giveaway.

Color coded Wells would be a good idea.

Kakumei · Sep 25, 2005, 12:05 AM // 00:05

um

any healing monk should be able to handle their own energy problems

hello offering of blood/energy drain

oh look my energy is fine

The Unknown Enemy · Sep 25, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

um

any healing monk should be able to handle their own energy problems

hello offering of blood/energy drain

oh look my energy is fine

Not all healing monks should be able to handle their own energy problems. They do not always have a mesmer or necro secondary, sometimes they have ranger or warrior, which have NO energy regen (or so I think). Blood necros (with BiP) are a must for monks for prolonged encounters, unless you want your team to die rather quickly.

Chev of Hardass · Sep 25, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01

BiP? not for the win.

Blood Ritual for the win. You can easily maintain that on three targets for a total of 9 extra arrows of regen throughout the team. BiP is great for short bursts of energy, but cannot be sustained due to the huge sacrifice, and cannot be spammed.

Suddenly you have an Elite spot open and your two Monks and favorite Ele will love you for the whole mission. I like Well of Power, but the possibilities are endless.

In fact, if you are trulely giving energy to the whole team you cast Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, Blood Ritual, Vamp Gaze, with the occasional Life Siphon thrown in there. This type of play is not really good for short intense battles, but for battles that never seem to end(when the patrols just keep coming), this is perfect.

The Unknown Enemy · Sep 25, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Yes, that is what I meant. I havn't been on my necro in forever and often I forget the true skill i'm looking for.

KaPe · Sep 25, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Say, what exactly is BiP?(I don't mean the shortcut) I can't say I had ever that cast on me

Blood Ritual - yes, and I like it a lot, almost double regen for minimal health loss that can be quickly healed or regened. But BiP? What does it do?