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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:10 AM // 03:10   #21
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It's one thats really only for farmers (people love those fur squares) not something you'd try to use playing through the story (unless the Charr come back in the next chapter).
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15   #22
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Are Charr hides actually worth something? I'm guessing 4g each?
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:16 AM // 03:16   #23
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I've had weapons with +stats vs Skeletons

Not Undead, but specifically Skeletons. Baffled me for bit that did.

Regarding the gold, golds can still have crap stats. The fact though is the armour is +6. Doesn't matter what that +6 is against. +6 stuff with max standard stats will be gold items.

If it was +4 it would be purple.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:25 AM // 03:25   #24
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i got a Crippling Flamberge of Skeletonslaying given to me for FoW it worked really well
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28   #25
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For shields, the gold range is +6 to +8 vs a specific enemy/damage type.

Charr Hides are worth about 50-60g.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33   #26
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So I'm dumb....but 50-60g each. Griff wings are only worth 25g each. What gives? I know I must be missing something....
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #27
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4 Charr Hides = 1 Fur Square at the Collector in Ascalon City. She's around the storage area.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39   #28
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IMO as a gold shield it's not great because of that req level but if you just plan on Charr farming then you'll probably have your tactics around that level and extra armour is always nice.

I wish they'd add shield mods, nothing fantastic just the current ones so you can upgrade higher shields.
the devs have commented on that already. gave some hints from the frog conversation. it will be coming.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 04:33 AM // 04:33   #29
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Rarity is area-based. A rare item in Old Ascalon is never max, but it is better comparatively to the other items in the region.
Really...if that is true then how come out of the gazillion of gold items I've won off the HoH floor over the months, almost all of them have been total garbage that is worth less than 600 gold?

One would think that the HoH would be the most ideal region in the game to get things from.

All the gold items I've got in Sorrow's Furnace were also garbage.

Based on my own personal experience I am led to believe that the vast majority of gold items that spawn are garbage, regardless of region.

Devs really should fix that.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #30
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Really...if that is true then how come out of the gazillion of gold items I've won off the HoH floor over the months, almost all of them have been total garbage that is worth less than 600 gold?

One would think that the HoH would be the most ideal region in the game to get things from.

All the gold items I've got in Sorrow's Furnace were also garbage.

Based on my own personal experience I am led to believe that the vast majority of gold items that spawn are garbage, regardless of region.

Devs really should fix that.
Totally agree - I'm yet to have a good gold drop anywhere, and I've tried everywhere - UW, FoW, Ring of Fire, Shiverpeaks, Desert etc. Just some of the *excellent* weapons I've found:

Gold Chaos Axe of Charrslaying
A really nice Gold Healing staff that improved fire magic
Numerouis gold wands only suitabl for particular two class builds

I play as a War/Mo, Ran/Mo (my favorite character) and Ele/Mes - yet 9/10 the drops are for monk's, necro's and Mesmers with high req's so totally unusable by me, or weapons with high req and bonus while hexed/v hexed which is next to useless. I infact I've only ever found one bow with damage >50% and that was a 13-22 one in the Southern Shiverpeaks - not even max damage even though it was the Iron Mines of Molodune mission, where I'd expect max damage or close to it considering how close to the game end it is (only 4 missions after it).

Even the gold armours only seem to produce major runes most of the time, and on the same mission i got the same rune twice - once from a gold armour, once from a purple armour and worth 25g at the trader.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #31
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Rarity of items don't guarantee better quality.
For example, at MacDonald's, occasionally, you get that super hard, over-fried stick in your fries, but it doesn't taste any better than the regular ones.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27   #32
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I got a clean Gold Firey Dragon sword. -shrugs- Worth about 300+ gold at the merchants.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 08:40 AM // 08:40   #33
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4 Charr Hides = 1 Fur Square at the Collector in Ascalon City. She's around the storage area.
Which is why you see so many high people in Piken Square. They are farming Charr for hides for fur, since it's the easiest way to get it.
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #34
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i got a Crippling Flamberge of Skeletonslaying given to me for FoW it worked really well
Haha well played

However wouldn't one for Undead work just as well though?
Can't help but still ponder what the difference may be
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 11:01 AM // 11:01   #35
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At the end of the day, gold mods are still random (which is a pity for staff type items, as you often get mixed mods, but then again, the collectors staffs have awesome mods, and upgrades can be bought/found).

Yeah, I also get irritated at "Storm Bows of Pruning", but I still always have a collection of keys for high level chests, causes even if only 1 in 10 drops turns out to be a good one, I've more than doubled my money. Alternatively, selling gold un-id. weapons can also be nice.

I'd still kill for a 20/20 ghostly staff though!
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Old Nov 14, 2005, 11:15 AM // 11:15   #36
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What happened to the golds out there. Over farmed?
What? That's a max-armor shield, that's not bad; the first week after release you'd have made people green with envy with that shield.
It's gold because you found it in an area where max-armor shields are rare (e.g. Gates of Kryta).

But yeah, mudflation is bad in GW due to the farming and the lack of item sinks. Pretty much everyone's got a full set of max damage/max armor/nice upgrades weapons & offhands now. Items which are not perfect max gold or at least has a perfect upgrade are pretty much worthless (and perfect max golds are ridiculously expensive because people's got tons of cash to spen too, also due to the farming).

There's a thread in the screenshots forum about "post your best weapon". It's a nice example of how mudflation has progressed: the first posts show non-max whites and blues. Then max purples and golds. The most recent posts exclusively show perfect gold and green items.
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