Curse

EternalTempest · Nov 17, 2005, 12:38 AM // 00:38

I had a situation where I was doing random PvP (4x4) and the random team was doing fine till one of our members (w/mo I think) was talking some very bad un-sportsman smack during and after the match. I shouted near the end of the match that I can't stay with you due to X language before we won.

It offended me so much to be on his team that I left after we won the match but BEFORE the next round so they would get a replacement for me.

Do you think I did the right thing? - Also prepared for being possible flamed for this.

Tactical-Dillusions · Nov 17, 2005, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Just report them if they behave in an insulting manner. Why should you leave?

If ArenaNet feel that a person has breached their EULA (Do not abuse or insult other players etc) then they will probably take action.

Remember, you're here to have fun, not to take crap from some immature turdburger.

Diestro · Nov 17, 2005, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Personally, I commend you for having the descency to handle it the way you did, many people would simply leave the team hanging a player short. I don't mind a bit of trash talk, but there are far too many people of the mindset as the person you described. As TD said, take a screenie of what they're saying, and report them, that's all you can really do to try to deal with the way they act. I also agree 100% with his last statement. I would, however, say that, if you don't feel comfortable playing with a particular person on your team, don't feel obligated to stay for the sake of the others on your team, they may or may not feel as you do, and will have to handle the situation in thier own ways.

Roza · Nov 17, 2005, 01:47 AM // 01:47

You did exactly the right thing.

NightOwl · Nov 17, 2005, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Let me start by saying that I LOVE trash talk. I thrive on it, talk ons of smack to me you want, it'll just bring me back to play again. I particularly enjoy being called a n00b by someone on the other, losing, team after the match.

But there is a limit. I'll leave when teammates start throwing around racial slurs (after the match, of course). That sort of thing is uncalled for, and there are certainly better ways to insult a person that will make 'em cry (or come back with a more effective build) without having to go there.

So, you did the right thing, Eternal. Well done. If you're offended, just leave. After people start having their teams drop on them repeatedly due to their conduct, they'll either stop playing or stop the behavior. It's more fun to get a winning team that can go for a streak than have 3 players drop every round.

EternalTempest · Nov 17, 2005, 05:12 PM // 17:12

Your right, I should of done a screenshot. I'm not in to calling back and I can take playful insults / sportsman results. I love to be able to say gg / good game at the end of a match.

Thank You for everyone's response and feed back.

twicky_kid · Nov 18, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

Do you think I did the right thing? - Also prepared for being possible flamed for this.

in random i've left for less than that. i'm in random to farm faction. kills get you faction not winning. if i'm not ressed within 10 seconds after i die i'm gone. once it becomes 4vs3 your team is most likely to lose anyways so i'm not going to waste my time yelling res, res, res, res, f it!!!!

in random don't worry about it.

Roza · Nov 18, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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i'm in random to farm faction. kills get you faction not winning. if i'm not ressed within 10 seconds after i die i'm gone. once it becomes 4vs3 your team is most likely to lose anyways so i'm not going to waste my time yelling res, res, res, res, f it!!!!

I don't want to start an argument with you twicky_kid, but this is exactly the sort of behaviour that takes out the fun of the comp. arena's for other players. Nothing personal, but if there was some way to ban players like you from the comp arena (together with the people using faction-farm bots), I would like to see Anet implement it.

I play in the comp. arena to have a quick battle, to have some fun, to try out a build and - yes - to farm some faction while doing that (though there are more efficient ways of gaining faction if you are a good pvp player). That means playing to win, hoping to get a team that actually behaves like a team and having a good time. People who behave like you describe yourself as behaving ruin my fun (I hate guys leaving just when I am rezzing them or leaving as soon as they see the team has no monk, etc.) It is utterly selfish and you are wasting your teammates time, as you are clearly there for other purposes than to enjoy a good battle.

The idea that you would play pvp as a means of farming faction only seems odd to me. As you can only use faction to play pvp, what are you farming for? Do you have a similar view of GvG (good faction, leave if the other team is a high rank) and tombs (don't care about winning, only about farming fame)?

Don't take this as a personal attack, btw, I am merely disagreeing with you about what the 'right' reasons for leaving a battle in the competition arena's are.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Nov 18, 2005, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Roza makes a really good point. If all you're concerned about in the arenas is farming for faction then what exactly is the point? You're not having fun and you're screwing up the match for others with the premature quitting.

And I've noticed every quitter says the same thing about quitting if "they arent rezzed in 10 seconds" Is there some sort of quitter's guide book that all these quitters follow that says the limit is 10 seconds?

Kool Pajamas · Nov 18, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Unless it was racial slurs, I dont see how it could be so offensive. Just turn off chat.

Roza · Nov 18, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

And fight on with a couple of players that may or may not be insulting you still? A lot of fun that would be... It is like advising someone being teased at work to always wear earplugs.

yesitsrob · Nov 18, 2005, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Hm, if I die in competition arenas - and I see that my team is capable of ressing me, as in, they are not under heavy fire, or the opposing team only has 3, yet they choose to not res me I don't really see why I should hang around. I wouldn't be so quick to leave after only 10 seconds (even through realistically I _should_ be raised within 10 seconds), but if I can see I'm not going to get raised, then I will - seriously unless you have an opponent who you are guarenteed to finish off, or unless the dead ally ran far away before dying then you should be clicking res signet

I've recently created a monk for pvp.... let's just say people are a lot more eager to res the monk than they are say.. a mesmer.
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I think you were right to leave too - I've seen some pretty bad abbuse in there, and you left in a way which was fair to everyone. I've left for less. Even if I have some guy saying the very original "alt f4" comments I won't be staying after the match has ended

heist23 · Nov 18, 2005, 06:36 AM // 06:36

i only leave until we lose. as in 4 dead teammates.

that, or my teammate is tossing around racial slurs like a hackey sack.
or, if my teammate is commenting on my 15k druid's.(you know what i mean.)

i'll stay until we lose for sure...unless someone's a dumbass.

Navaros · Nov 18, 2005, 06:37 AM // 06:37

If I'm in Competition Arenas and I get a less than level 20 on my team, I'm so gone.

Roza · Nov 18, 2005, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Agreed Yesitsrob, if it looks like your team is not going to rez you at all, you should feel free to leave. Sometimes they will have good reasons for not rezzing you (such as when they have already won the battle and a chasing a remaining opponent or trying to bring down a self-healing wa/mo or something), in which case they will win and get another player if you leave. Might not be wise to leave then though.

That is, if you are even interested in winning and are not just interested in farming faction by acumulating kills, like some.

vvh · Nov 18, 2005, 07:07 AM // 07:07

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

in random i've left for less than that. i'm in random to farm faction. kills get you faction not winning. if i'm not ressed within 10 seconds after i die i'm gone. once it becomes 4vs3 your team is most likely to lose anyways so i'm not going to waste my time yelling res, res, res, res, f it!!!!

in random don't worry about it.

Your statement is not entirely true. I've won a game 2 vs 4 before in the fire island map. 2 of my teammates left before they get rezzed and we were able to get one more kill than the other team before the time ran off. If our teammates hadn't left us, the game would have been easier.

I do not appreciate people who leave their teammate because they "think they didn't get rez on time". For your information, interrupt ranger is a popular build in CA and it is possible to ger interrupted while using ressurection signet(distracting shot adds 20 to the rez recharge time). Sometimes, it takes me 4 tries to get my rez off due to the interrupts and knockdowns.

I play at tomb and I can assure you that nobody leave the game if they don't get rezzed within 10 seconds for whatever reason. I'm sure you wouldn't either. Then, why the discrimination in CA?

rii · Nov 18, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Because tombs is a large investment of time... so its not worth it to leave.... finding a team/good team may take a while. In ca, you just leave, press enter mission and your right back in it.

Xx Devour Xx · Nov 18, 2005, 01:23 PM // 13:23

I think you did the right thing. I you feel uncomfotable in a situation where some1 is cursing non stop you have the right not to play with them. As for you being nice enough to leave right after the victory, I would have waited till the nect round and then left

fenix · Nov 18, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25

When I play Arena's I LOVE trash talking. Especially if it's after my team wins. That gets me in such a good mood, as the frequent "noob, you suck" etc etc comments give you a confidence boost.

What I hate, is people making those comments when they win, or when they kill you. THAT gets on my nerves.