Curse

ShadowStorm · Jan 23, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Ok, there's an Assassin skill called Way of the Fox. Here's what it does:

Way of the Fox
5 energy, 1 cast, 3 recharge
Enchantment spell. For 10...30 seconds, your next attack cannot miss

My question is this:

If I were to use this skill, Way of the Fox, before performing an assassin attack that was out of sequence or didn't meet the prerequisite condition for hitting, would it still hit?

Example:

I use Way of the Fox, then immediately use Falling Spider. Falling Spider says that it will only hit if your target is knocked down. Assuming the target isn't already knocked down, will Falling Spider still hit?

criticalglitch · Jan 23, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Out-of-sequence attacks don't "miss", they "fail". So, no, you wouldn't be able to use an attack without the prerequisites.

Rikimaru · Jan 23, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by criticalglitch

Out-of-sequence attacks don't "miss", they "fail". So, no, you wouldn't be able to use an attack without the prerequisites.

They do miss, whenever I use an attack out of sequence it actually says "Miss", just like if you're blind.
-Edit- I might be wrong now that I think of it, I usually only try it in the middle of a crazed melee free-for-all, so I could easily have been blind all those times..

ShadowStorm · Jan 23, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

So do they miss because they fail, or do they just miss? If they miss because they fail, then Way of the Fox wouldn't help. If they just miss, then it would. Does anyone know for sure?

Asrial · Jan 23, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Best solution is to unlock it and go test it against the armor dummies

NatalieD · Jan 23, 2006, 05:53 AM // 05:53

An attack that's used out-of-sequence will "miss". An attack with a condition other than sequencing, like Falling Spider, will "fail" if its condition is not met.

At least, that's how it seemed to me from my admittedly small amount of assassin playing time. I have no idea whether Way of the Fox affects out-of-sequence misses.

Another question - does Way of the Fox make an attack immune to block/evade as well, or does it really just mean "miss" when it says miss?

Vermilion Okeanos · Jan 23, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

It will miss.

Use "way of the fox" then use dual attack, then you see two yellow line saying "miss miss".

Yes, the skill lied. Yes, I wasted 1000 faction.

ShadowStorm · Jan 23, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Yeah, I ended up using 1000 faction too and it was a waste. Didn't work at all like it said. Stupid Skill Description. Grrrrr...

What if... · Jan 23, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Wait a moment, couldn't you use this to ensure your lead attack's success. I'm assuming "miss" includes things like evade and block. This seems like a really nice accuracy buff.

Maxiemonster · Jan 23, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Anyone tried combining this with IW?

fallot · Jan 23, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

Anyone tried combining this with IW?

I must be missing something, why the hell would you want this skill if you have IW ? You cant miss anyway.

Vermilion Okeanos · Jan 23, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallot

I must be missing something, why the hell would you want this skill if you have IW ? You cant miss anyway.

Actually, you still miss with IW if you dual attack without combo while having "way of the fox" on. It is total BS in my eyes.

pagansaint · Jan 23, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

I think he is talking about using it to actually HIT with his physical weapon while using IW.

But that would only work, if it works, for one attack, which is worthless.

Phades · Jan 23, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

I am curious about someone with IW and using dual attacks that auto fail, just to get the extra swipes in with the IW.

twicky_kid · Jan 23, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Way of the fox is used to be able to attack through blind. When you are blinded you miss. Way of the fox counters that. You will be blinded but will hit as normal.

Myodato · Jan 23, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Heard all that talk of how you chain-attacks are ruined by a simgle miss ? well now you can make sure the vital one *cough*Temple Strike*cough* hits.

Can't think of many builds that would have the space for this skill though, nor can I think of many that would spend 5 energy everytime they want to make sure they hit.

LaserLight · Jan 23, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Simple question:
Is Way of the Fox worth either 1000 Faction or a slot on the skill bar?

Simple answer:
No.

Easy as that :-P. If it said ye couldn't miss for, say, the next 1-7 seconds or some other such stuffage, then it'd probably be the centerpiece of half the Assassin builds around. As it is...

No.

LightningHell · Jan 24, 2006, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaserLight

Simple question:
Is Way of the Fox worth either 1000 Faction or a slot on the skill bar?

Simple answer:
No.

Easy as that :-P. If it said ye couldn't miss for, say, the next 1-7 seconds or some other such stuffage, then it'd probably be the centerpiece of half the Assassin builds around. As it is...

No.

What do you mean? It's the same as what you said, except it's 10-30 seconds.

Unless you're talking about the prerequisite-thing, of which I would understand.

Phades · Jan 24, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

It only works on 1 attack, but the enchantment lasts for up to 30s.

LaserLight · Jan 24, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

What I meant was, if it said that for the next 1-7 seconds or so, you couldn't miss with all of the attacks you launched, then yes, it would be a Good Thing. However, as it stands now, you're better off running /R and bringing Antidote Sig, or /Mo and a condition stripper, or just making sure the team Monk knows that you need Blind help.