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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:35 AM // 08:35   #101
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The OoV nerf is interesting, you cant really use it with tainted flesh anymore.

Pretty good update, good work Anet
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40   #102
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As soon as it came out I went to Hero's Ascent to see what people were saying. Half were laughing and half were still saying "R3+ IWAY LFG". So IWAY isn't totally nerfed.

However, I ran a necro blood spike group (5 necros, 2 trapping rangers and 1 monk). This was just to see if we could take down an IWAY team using stupid tactics. Luckily we ran into an IWAY group right off the bat.

Needless to say the match lasted about 2 minutes and we won. Don't know how skilled the IWAYERs were, but the next round we ran into a descent balanced group and got canned in about 1 minute and 30 seconds.

Yay for crappy IWAY. Yay for balancing out the game. Yay for bringing back some diversity into the PvP spectrum. Yay.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40   #103
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Dammit, Savio beat me to it...

Well...I'm gonna give it some thought about quitting this game...everything is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up...
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:44 AM // 08:44   #104
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The toning down of Mend Ailment is a good thing people. It made all other condition removal skills look like crap and made conditions pretty much useless.

With this new change, people can't mindlessly spam it to remove conditions. 5 seconds is not going to kill you. It was an absolutely good change.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47   #105
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No Protective Spirit meddling and no listed change to book/keg/gear AI obsessions but 1/3 is some progress. I just hope the next place that gets out of hand with commercial farmers as bad as Augury did doesn't take so long to have a scarab population move in.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48   #106
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They Ice Floe one didnt hold any items. Rather it was a trap. If you open it up a LOT of Azures (usually included the Azure Monk Boss) spawn around you and pretty much kill you.
Not that it matters now anyway but the Ice floe chest did hold items, it would drop between 1 and 3 every time you opened it, you just had to buff yourself up a little so you lived long enough to pick up your drops once the Azures spawned. Made a few plat selling the Ritualist gear, dwarven & serpent axes it would often drop.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:51 AM // 08:51   #107
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Dammit, Savio beat me to it...

Well...I'm gonna give it some thought about quitting this game...everything is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up...
Pretty much.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55   #108
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I never used the HoD helm for soloing the imps. honestly prefered the hex on me as it triggered the dmg -3 on my sheild. but it made runs through iceflow to grotto very doable and runs around copperhammer doable. stuff like that gonna be lot tougher for a warrior now.
Not everyone has a -3dmg shield while hexed.
Hopefully with the update people will start using them (if they ever get them). While hexed isn't a very popular condition. Just go to Granite Citadel and look at all the warriors with the helm on, and you'll see how many people use them.



As I look at the warriors skill updates, they seem to be ramping up swordsmanship skills. Gash, Riposte and Deadly Riposte all buffed. And they "nerfed" axe ELITE skill Eviscerate. I suppose I better give swords another try *sigh
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 08:58 AM // 08:58   #109
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HAHA. Spoken like a true fame farmer.
I didn't notice they nerfed any farming other then Griffons... have I missed anything???
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03   #110
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removed Chest in Dread..... there goes my only chance of getting a rare Crystaline or serpent and the prices of them will skyrocket, that and mend ailment only bothers me other things are ok, btw i want that gold -5 shield for my war.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #111
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The "while hexed" shield that is offered by the collector north of Camp Rankor is still +45 HP, -2 damage received. Why wasn't it upgraded to match the one that is available in the PvP creation screen?
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #112
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aw skull crack is still junk .
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #113
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Choking Gas + Practised Stance = Broken now imho.

It was pretty good before the buff, now it's power has gone about triple fold, allowing to invest more points into other attributes, the Choking Gas interrupter is very powerful now.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #114
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I didn't notice they nerfed any farming other then Griffons... have I missed anything???

Fame farming is what people call (it's a derogatory term like calling chinese farmers 'bots') the act of a player using a build (IWAY, for example) that is over powered in terms of the skill that is required to effectively use it (it's like me fighting bruce lee with a machine gun), thus getting favourable results against teams with more experiance who are using balanced/original builds/refuse to jump on the build bangwagon.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24   #115
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I recently switched my warrior to having stances, so I'm very happy about this. I'm even torn between defensive and disciplined stance now
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #116
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Reduced the Lieutenant's Helm Hex duration bonus to 20%, and added it to the PvP character creation screen.
Good


Distortion: increased Energy cost to 4..1 when you "evade" attacks.
Definitely needed - though I hoped they would have buffed mantra of recall so there was still a point in using mo/me booners - the added sacrifice on OoB still isn't too bad


Order of the Vampire: no longer triggers if you have other Necromancer Enchantments on you.
Ouch, bye bye 3 man ranger spike


Gale: increased Energy cost to 10.
And with exhaustion fixed too, that's got to hurt


Heal Party: increased recharge time to 2 seconds.
Good


Eviscerate: increased adrenaline cost to 8 swings.
Good


"I will avenge you!": reduced attack speed to 25%; fixed a bug that caused this skill to trigger off of dead ally minions.



"Shields up!": now blocks 50% of the time.
Screw up ranger spike some more please :\


Crippling Shot: increased Energy cost to 15; Crippled duration now scales 1..8.
That's fair


Holy Veil: increased recharge time to 12 seconds.
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there aren't enough good hex removals how it is - way to go


Offering of Blood: increased sacrifice to 20%.
Fair enough


Fixed a bug that allowed attack speeds to stack past 33%.

About time... this was supposed to have happened about 97 updates ago

Meh, I'm not sure on some of the decisions - I would have really liked to have seen a buff on Mantra of Recall to make it a decent alterative to OoB - but with distortion nerfed a little I can't see this happening

IWAY build has been hit pretty bad I'd say - the attack speed fixed, heal party recharge time, eviscerate cost increase, lieut hex helm nerf - still hasn't been hit as hard as Gale Warriors or Ranger Spike however and IWAY is still going to ruin the tombs.

I'm glad martyr didn't get nerfed
Disappointed that spirits weren't berfed a little - I am hoping factions has some form of spirit control
I think gale should have just had the exhaustion mechianics fixed and leave it at that
The oov nerf is really nasty
mend ailment nerf hurts me, oob I can handle - nerfing booners like this though is evil (though shielding hands looks like quite an attractive option now)... at least nerf that bitch of a spirit natures that single handedly destroys me!
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26   #117
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Sorry but that -5 (20%) shield is clearly overpowered.

The rest of the fixes are great.
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27   #118
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Choking Gas + Practised Stance = Broken now imho.

It was pretty good before the buff, now it's power has gone about triple fold, allowing to invest more points into other attributes, the Choking Gas interrupter is very powerful now.
imho Practiced Stance was underpowered (and useful with only one preparation), now it's right
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30   #119
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Sorry but that -5 (20%) shield is clearly overpowered.

The rest of the fixes are great.
it averages -1 damage per hit.


whoa...overpowered!
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Old Mar 03, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39   #120
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yay my pyro's fave nuke spell got a buff!!! rodgorts invocation ftw
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