Curse

allience · Mar 10, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

[Edit] i'm NOT complaining about this. it's only a post for INFORMATION purposes

if you are thinking that Anet has no idea what's going on in uw or augry int district u're very wrong. my friend got 2 of his accounts banned and below is the reply i got from Anet after asking why they banned.

As u can see, i bolded an important part of the reply, and this leads me to 1 weird conclusion. if one CONSTANTLY farms 1 spot, Anet is likely to ban u. now don't get me wrong, i'm not talking about the regular person farming ectos.

all that my friend did in the game each day after day is farm UW, and his only char was a 55 life monk. he did not directly ebay anything as far as i know (chek the bold part in the reply). i'm unaware how anet decides if a person farms for ebay purposes or for game grind but gathering a big ammount of items/ectos without ever improving his char must have been a decision factor.

all you farmers beware, Anet has its eyes on you like big brother. be scared, be very very scared.

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Hello (name removed),

Thank you for contacting us about your Guild Wars game account.

Your account was permanently closed because you engaged in the sale of in-game items for cash or other items with real world value, or you engaged in gathering items to be sold for cash or other items with real world value. Both actions are against our User Agreement, where Section 7 states, "You may not sell or auction any Guild Wars accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material, nor may you assist others in doing so."

Protests regarding the termination of your Guild Wars game account will not be addressed or entertained. We will not accept appeals in cases such as this because of the depth of the analysis prior to the block. We regret the necessity of terminating any game account, but we will continue to take all necessary actions to protect the Guild Wars community and to assure that players are abiding by our User Agreement.

Please keep in mind that Guild Wars is a global game with hundreds of thousands of players. This means that standards of behavior must be upheld. For your convenience, you can obtain more information about our rules at the addresses listed below.

- User Agreement: http://www.guildwars.com/legal/users-agreement.php
- Rules of Conduct: http://www.guildwars.com/legal/rulesofconduct.php
- Conduct Breaches & Outcomes: http://www.guildwars.com/legal/condu...d_outcomes.php

Regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team

Kakumei · Mar 10, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by allience

he did not directly ebay anything as far as i know (chek the bold part in the reply).

What about indirectly?

Canadian Bacon · Mar 10, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Owned.

Young Hero · Mar 10, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Break the rules, pay the price.Bu bye

MSecorsky · Mar 10, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

High fives, ANet.

The decision had to be based on more than just his farming habits.

Fantus · Mar 10, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Well done, A-Net! That's all I have to say here.

Big_Iron · Mar 10, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

I'm sure they didn't do this without some hard evidence. Anet doesn't want to ban legit customers. It's bad business. They also know farming is standard practice in all MMO's. I don't think you got all the facts from your friend.

calamitykell · Mar 10, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Ditto. Kudos to ANet.

Orbberius · Mar 10, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Haha nice

Teklord · Mar 10, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

The topic title itself says "Anet bans eBay farmers!" Since it says eBay Farmers... I really fail to see an issue with this. They're doing exactly what they should be doing.

Sekkira · Mar 10, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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or you engaged in gathering items to be sold for cash or other items with real world value.

I'd like to know how they detirmine that one.

Loviatar · Mar 10, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

I'd like to know how they detirmine that one.

that part is easy.

they said months ago in an interview that they were not going after the small abuser but waiting until they could bring down whole farming networks at one shot.

his *friend* (notice it is always a *friend* who has all the details and it is never the *friend* who makes the complaint?) was a gathering middleman/girl and they simply flagged where all the stuff gathered went and watched others deliver to that person as well.

follow where he makes his/her deliveries up the food chain to ebay.

poof squash the whole bunch.

3 cheers for getting rid of garbage

Diablo™ · Mar 10, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Thank goodness.

Starsky-sama · Mar 10, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by allience

if one CONSTANTLY farms 1 spot, Anet is likely to ban u.

From 1st reading your post and reading the Anet reply. IMO. you should delete the above part you mentioned (quoted you on). If this is what you interpeted from Anet's reply, then everyone would have been banned at a daily basis/ months ago for "farming". The fact that Anet's reply is stating that some ebay thing was linked to your friend's accounts that's why he was banned. It was just stating all the facts pertaining to their reason why a banned occured and didnt specify which one your friend commited.

Unless, you are 100% sure that your friend never tried even once, used the terms "Guild wars + real cash" and ebay together. You already have your answer, really.

/hmm. (The 1st thing that caught my eye on the thread: The use of "sad face" w/ title "bans ebay farmers". that is really contradicting...??)

Teklord · Mar 10, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I would submit that is determined by reviewing logs for large "one-sided" trades between two accounts. And that one of those two accounts is either already suspected or proven to engage in the selling of in game items for real profit on eBay.

Presumably someone wouldn't on a regular basis hand out say 50 Ectos for example to other people without getting something in return.

Mordakai · Mar 10, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Everyone bookmark this so we can reference it when the "What's wrong with buying Gold on Ebay?" thread starts again...

wsmcasey · Mar 10, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

You reap what you sow.

Diablo™ · Mar 10, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Anet should hoist his char model in the middle of Ascalon with a noose. So that everyone in town can throw tomatoes at him... just like the good'ol middle ages.

allience · Mar 10, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

i didn't post this as a complaint, stop flaming me, it's not even my accounts! my post was meant for information purposes, specially for hardcore farmers and for those who also farm for ebay. i'm not accusing anet, i'm just letting evey1 know that they do ban for INDIRECT ebaying.

like sekkira, i'd like to know how Anet determines who farms hardcore for themselves and who 'indirectly' farms for another person that ebays.

i'm supposing that they track a suspected Character and see what it does with the items they obtain. i also think that to AVOID being banned for stuff like this, one should at least make more then 1 char on the account and also improve that char's items so they see that u don't just get many valuable items and 'mysteriously' trade them for nothing.

i know for a fact that hey track specific chars because in a previous email i sent them, they needed the character's NAME on the banned account. i had only provided them the account and password and without the char's name, they were not able to tell me why they banned.

Zephro · Mar 10, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Aaaaand the scamming chinese monks are still rampant in ToA. Including some infamous repeat offenders.
When will the crackdown on them happen?