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Lord Iowerth · Mar 17, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Two factors I look at are:

1)Did they type that in all caps? ie, "EXP W/MO LF GOOD GROUP!!!!!!!"

2)Did they bother to write out "experienced" or just "EXP" ?

Chances are, if you see someone calmly state "Experienced MM looking for mission group" or something similar: they are less likely to be a total asshat

Sents · Mar 17, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

I use it all the time. Exp. Whatever LFG for Whatever. Your gonna take that however you like, if your paranoid and worried about people lying all the time, then you can pass me over, your loss.

castanaveras · Mar 17, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

what piss me off is when I see something like this:

"Rank 6 W/Mo has done this xxxxxtimes LFG- no NOOBS plz"

what's pve have to do with rank?

zoozoc · Mar 17, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

im not really more inclined or less inclined to invite that person, of course if the person shouts out a bunch of crap about how l33t he is, or spams that hes a tank, then i will probably not invite him/her.

VGJustice · Mar 17, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

I'd be less inclined to work with them. If I need a whatsit, I get a whatsit. If you're experienced, great! But, I'll take "patient" over "experienced" any day of the week. Especially now that I'm trying to get my healer through THK. You'd think people would learn not to rush ahead by then, but nooooooo....

Honestly, the guys that spam "EXP (insert cookie cutter build here) LFG!" are the ones that rush, and have no tolorance for anything that doesn't fit inside thier perfect little box. I'd rather have fun losing 12 times in a row than getting grief for not being "perfect".

aB- · Mar 17, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Sents

I use it all the time. Exp. Whatever LFG for Whatever. Your gonna take that however you like, if your paranoid and worried about people lying all the time, then you can pass me over, your loss.

And it is this kind of arrogant attitude that turns me off to "EXP" people. Usually, however, I don't really care if they wrote experienced or not.

Nater · Mar 17, 2006, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Hence the need for a PvE emote so we can discriminate each other like all the PvP people.

UnreaL Pero · Mar 17, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by Nater

Hence the need for a PvE emote so we can discriminate each other like all the PvP people.

yeah.... exp emote

torquemada · Mar 17, 2006, 07:30 AM // 07:30

I don't really mind "EXP", "PRO" and "NO NOOB" parties, I'm just less inclined to join. The reason is, I could be griefed no end because super-pro person in that party thinks everyone should bend over for him and play it like he expects. By this I don't mean good gameplay, just if he says jump, you jump, and you are n00b either way.

The second reason is, such parties usually form somewhat later in the game (from desert to precipice) and they do usually tend to get killed in the first 3 skirmishes of the mission. That's my experience, I'm not making this up. They may be pro, but are usually unable to function as a team.

Best times ever for me were with nonassuming groups (and some very nice AND experienced players - should I add all went schmoovely and enjoyably?)

Another thing - I played with lvl 13 SS necro

in Northern Shivs few days ago. Talking about poverleveling and running...completely ruined other's playing experience (since he rushed solo not minding others). The only spell/skill I observed him use (having not much to do) was spiteful... SS practically cleared the whole map. I just don't honestly know why he didn't solo the mission if he was so bent not to wait for our poor non-elite arses. Next I'll be called newb for not using elites in D'Alessio Seaboard...

/end_rant

EDIT: OH YEAH I ADORE CAPS!!

Minus Sign · Mar 17, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Ok; I got one. Would you be more inclined or less inclined to play in a PvE group that requires TeamSpeak?

fallot · Mar 17, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

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Originally Posted by Minus Sign

Ok; I got one. Would you be more inclined or less inclined to play in a PvE group that requires TeamSpeak?

Depends on a lot of signs, but generally I'd avoid it. A lot of people can be worse on voice-chat than they seem to be in the game itself.

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Originally Posted by Jakerius

If a person says, for example "EXP Tank LFG for MISSION!!!" would you be more inclined, or less inclined to get that person.

I wouldnt accept such a person into my group.

Mandy Memory · Mar 17, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

I dont care whos in my group...PVE is easy enough to do solo. So they are just along for the ride.

Gertrude · Mar 17, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46

I don't like to group with people whose ego is bigger than there IQ. That goes for most people who are intent on telling me how great they are - I would rather they showed me and sadly they mostly don't.

Avarre · Mar 17, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nater

Hence the need for a PvE emote so we can discriminate each other like all the PvP people.

Exp emote is what the thread is against, only under the name declaring yourself 'exped'. All it shows is farming capability and not actual skill, even more so than the rank emote. Which is why it will never be implemented.

I never use 'exped mes lfg' because I never use LFG. Real men use blind invites!

Gonzo · Mar 17, 2006, 10:57 AM // 10:57

I could go into RoF and yell EXP Tank LFG! and would not be lying. I'm pretty experienced as a tank (due to helping guildies, learning agro control). However, I have never done RoF (Still haven't gotten up to it, since I try to avoid PUGs because a) with guildies I know the changes of succes are high (up untill now every mission we've done has been a succes) and b) with guildies I know we'll have fun while doing it). Now I knew I had a point with this entry..
O yeah: So I see EXPerienced as a dubious remark.

Gardar · Mar 17, 2006, 10:58 AM // 10:58

I sometimes add exp when people are looking for expirienced barragers to go to tombs, but that's just to indicate I've done it before and finished it with a few groups, not to say I'm better than anyone.

Francis Crawford · Mar 17, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

personly he could be not telling the truth. he could be a noob just trying to get into the group.

That's been my, er, experience.

CorstedPirate · Mar 17, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by Gardar

I sometimes add exp when people are looking for expirienced barragers to go to tombs, but that's just to indicate I've done it before and finished it with a few groups, not to say I'm better than anyone.

Exactly! That is all I ever mean when I tack that onto an LFG. It would be nice if I always had enough friends online to be able to just get a group going with them. That is sadly not the case though. So, I try to get into a PUG for tombs.

When I doing tombs as a ranger, I let people know what level my spirits are. I prefer to take Favorable Winds because I have it higher then Winnowing, I let people know. I call when resurecting my pet, sometimes it reminds everyone to do it. Also when I cast spirits, so people know I am getting it up and they don't have to. I was in a group today and my FW was up for a second and then was disappated by someone casting theirs over it, oddly theirs was a lower level then mine, so it made no sense that they would do that. There were problems with this person for the whole time we were down there. I won't go into that though any further though,

When I get into a group with my monk I normally list the spells I am taking and ask if anyone wants me to switch anything. If the switch makes sense, I am willing. I also don't want to have to deal with anybody asking why I didn't use a spell that I didn't say I was bringing. I have had compliments from whole groups, saying I am fabulous. I have also had people flip out and say I am horrible.

It really depends on the persons experience, and it is proven at the end, succeed or fail. How do they react? Do they flip out at everyone cause they didn't get any greens? Are they ok with trying again after failing, switching a couple things around? As a lot of people have said patience really means the most to a group. No matter what quest or mission it might be. Even the timed one at Elona. Standing around the whole time wont get it done, but rushing in and dying makes it even less likely.

thunderpower · Mar 17, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth

Two factors I look at are:

1)Did they type that in all caps? ie, "EXP W/MO LF GOOD GROUP!!!!!!!"

2)Did they bother to write out "experienced" or just "EXP" ?

Chances are, if you see someone calmly state "Experienced MM looking for mission group" or something similar: they are less likely to be a total asshat

Umm... I play for 10-11 month now, from may last year. I got so bored of typing everything out like "Experienced etc...", I just say "X/X Lfg", omit level, etc...

Sometimes when i put Exp, i don't type it fully. IMO it's just like Wts, gg, Wtb, thnx, etc... Judging some1 by Exp or Experienced is wrong, or that's how i see it.

Every1 was a noolet some time before, and was happy to get a group. If you are a noob, namely noob = "new player" and not noob = "total retard", than why not give you a chance?

Many people use noob as a term for "retard", "moron", "idiot", etc... But IMO noob should only resume to "new player", without any negative aspect.

Bob of Maple Ave · Mar 17, 2006, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

It's a tossup. I'd rather judge on whether or not the person is patient or impatient in getting the party going. Often, impatient people tend to get the party into situations where they will lose a mission or will have a lot of grief along the way.

Ditto.

How stupid is it to not wait 2 minutes more to put together a good team that may be farming for over 2 hours? You'll get so much more accomplished if you've got the chemistry right.

If someone starts spamming "go", I'll kick them, I don't give a damn. Go take your Ritalin, kid.

I got into the habit of only going with "experienced" players into FoW (and was advertising myself as an "exp" player as well). I was getting into huge arguments with people who said that they'd made it to the Forgemaster 4 times (!). Big wow.

There's no way to tell whether a person is "exp" or not, and moreso, what qualifiers a person is using to categorize himself/herself as "exp".

Also, my experiences have been just as good, and at times better, with n00bs that listen...and they're always the best with people that are just generally cool.

Oh, and I stopped going to FoW around 2-3 PM PST. Not to say that all kids are dumb, but around that time, Retardfest 2006 is in full swing. Any time after 10 PM PST, and you're far more likely to succeed down there.