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metaltwisted · Mar 21, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Hi. i'm new to this forum but I think that Guild Wars support is very disgraceful. Take the following examples below:

1 I asked them how I would know that I have the European version of the North american version from looking at the pack(I live in australia so it's sometimes this sometimes that). They said that they have to have a look at my access key and my email address... But I found out that it was actually on the pack... GW-EU-UK... Europe standing for EU and UK is united kingdom... I wonder why they like to do things the hard way

Disgrace rating: 1/5

1a I asked them how you distinguish the packaging for GUild Wars Factions so I wiould know if it's the European version when I buy it... They told me to look at the guild wars website... It doesn't even say, It has the pictures of the pack in american and european, but it doesn't say which one's american and which one's european! I'm not talking about the pack contents, but the packaging. They haven't read my question carefully and think it's the pack contents! They need to take courses on reading

Disgrace rating: 2/5

2 I asked them that if I have an european access key could I use a north american guild wars factions key onto the european account. They said no you can't.

I asked if Australia belonged in Europe or North america in another support ticket and they told me that you shouldn't worry so much because that you can use any access key addon to any access key account...

Two completely different staff saying two completely opposite things!

Disgrace rating: 5/5

3 I told them that both answers were diferen't and that they should rethink themselves and give me the correct answers. I had another suport ticket about what the covers will look like for european packs in Guild Wars Factions and they said "contact them instead, we're closing this ticket". I'm like, what??!! They're completely different support questions, covers and regions are two different things! In my opinion, they were trying to cover it up!

Disgrace rating: 6/5

If you have experienced something like this before, or you have any comments, I want to read them :P Post a reply

konohamaru heaven · Mar 21, 2006, 06:57 AM // 06:57

Well actually there is no difference between the NA and EU versions othr than the cover language I preusme for the non-English Speaking countries. At least this is how the chapter one was set up. Also if this is about the special items they are all the same so no worries about that.

Dr Strangelove · Mar 21, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

That sucks, do they really sell both packs down there? I could see how that would create problems, but it seems unlikely that they would choose to do that and choose to not let access keys from different areas work. After all, you can easiy change your area, so it seems like an arbritrary thing.

Ken Dei · Mar 21, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

All valid questions, granted, but there's enough info flying around that the least you could have done was ask around the forums.

As to your first question:
-It should be on the site somewhere.

2nd Question: Consider this, perhaps the European and American are set off as individual groupings, since their respective player bases are so large, but Australia with a smaller player base has a generic key that works on either. Just a theory.

Or it was simple intra-office miscommunication. Things are kinda hectic down there.

Or perhaps when you asked the first time is was "No," but then they realized it'd be easier with a generic key so it became "It doesn't matter"

3rd Question:
I can fathom only one reason why you'd even care what it looks like. Yet, it's not a good reason.

Conclusion:
A.Net service and support is very good, no one's perfect. But my advice is not to scream A.Net sucks on this or any fanboard, it's just inviting flames. Most players are very happy with A.Net thusfar.

Note to impending flame weilders: Back off, go find another thread to burn into confusion.

JiggyFly · Mar 21, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

I've found Anets support to be helpful in the past (hey at the very least, give'em props for not outsourcing their support to a third party company).

But anything Factions related results in half-truths, vague answers, and overall mass confusion. From support, to retailers, to players I don't think anyone can make heads or tails of the whole Factions thing in terms of pre-order packages, and buying the different game versions, anything related to buying the game or questions about buying the game results in problems it seems.

One can only assume Anet is stretching itself thin, trying to get the Factions release off smoothly, while still trying to run Guild Wars effectively. Which can be seen by the merchant glitch, and the various other bugs that have become more frequent overtime. (Some would say, since the Factions Preview event)

I think that after things settle down a bit, and Anet gets its' footing back we'll see some more reliable support and more steady information on Anets end.

studentochaos · Mar 21, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

This is not a flame on anybody, but I feel for the OP.

Support services jobs are to be knowledgible and reduce the frustration of the clients. The company pays those employees to successfully accomplish this. Clearly in his exchange with the support staff did the opposite. I have seen other threads saying the support staff are bad and I know that alot of Australian players often feel in limbo (I play in their timezone so I talk to plenty of NZ and Aus people and they seem to echo the OPs confusion.)

He wants to know the right box so not to waste his money. Is that so crazy? If he orders online then he wants to be sure he is buying a copy that works for him and knowing the packaging help verify this. Also, he wants to be sure that if he gets the wrong item, it will work for him. The people paid to help him in this department didn't, frustrating for sure.

As for him posting here, Anet support often tells people to air complaints or troubles on the forums. This is the place for this. While I don't have the answers to his questions, hopefully someone can tell him.

sixdartbart · Mar 21, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

1/5
2/5
5/5
6/5
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If this is to be taken as an example I can see how they may have been somewhat confused by your questions

Sounds like you may be easily upset so I will try not to do that and merely state that every time I have dealt with Anet support they have been very responsive and helpful but obviously opinions vary...

VGJustice · Mar 21, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Oddly, this sounds like one of the reps I talked with recently via email. Occasionally, he/she miss reads my questions, and as such gives me only so-so information. But, if I reply and note that my question wasn't answered, I can get an accurate response, from the same person, within a day. I honestly believe that this person is just overloaded from a ton of people all sending in questions and bug reports, and he/she is just tired sometimes. You know, human.

I'd strongly recommend you let them know about the problems you're having in a calm and clear way. Let them know that the information you got was wrong, let them know why it was wrong, and let them know what you found out. It'll make things better in the long run, as the person will have better info, and will be able to help the next less-than-happy customer with said info.

As for myself, I mostly get info from the same person, and I've gotten quite good results on everything from EULA violations to bug reports (I even got an e-mail back once telling me that what I thought was a bug wasn't a bug at all, but intentional, and got an explanation as to why. Most pleasing).

lg5000 · Mar 21, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

As far as I'm aware.. Australia gets the Euro version. That means, you're gonna have a hard time finding the American version here, unless you order it online from the US.

There is a chance that we got the Euro version due to our English being closer to English English and not American English.. but.. I'm not sure about that.

btw, if you're playing on the American server, you can add the Euro version of Factions and still play on the American server.

Sekkira · Mar 21, 2006, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Also, you should stop crying. This is nothing new. Australia always gets RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed over when it comes to games.

Asrial · Mar 21, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Don't you set your location when you first put in the CD key?

Numa Pompilius · Mar 21, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by metaltwisted

Hi. i'm new to this forum but I think that Guild Wars support is very disgraceful.

Just out of curiosit - where did you get this support? Via the www.guildwars.com website? It wasn't your shop, was it?

Quote:

on the pack... GW-EU-UK... Europe standing for EU and UK is united kingdom... I wonder why they like to do things the hard way

Disgrace rating: 1/5

There is really no difference. If you've started playing you've by now found that you can switch between italian, spanish, german, and english-speaking EU freely, and between the EU and any other realm 5 times.

Quote:

1a I asked them how you distinguish the packaging for GUild Wars Factions so I wiould know if it's the European version when I buy it... They told me to look at the guild wars website... It doesn't even say --- They haven't read my question carefully and think it's the pack contents!

Uh, yeah. What does it matter what the packaging looks like?

Quote:

2 I asked them that if I have an european access key could I use a north american guild wars factions key onto the european account. They said no you can't.

I'd say it's a pretty safe bet you can, as you can move between realms.

Quote:

If you have experienced something like this before, or you have any comments, I want to read them :P Post a reply

So, to sum things up, you had questions about the regional packaging of guildwars which you got conflicting answers to.

I respectfully submit you need to reconsider your definition of 'disgraceful'.

TimberOwl · Mar 21, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Yeah, i think you do.. But considering the majority of support agencies use bots... (NCsoft included) what do you expect?

Sagius Truthbarron · Mar 21, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGJustice

Oddly, this sounds like one of the reps I talked with recently via email. Occasionally, he/she miss reads my questions, and as such gives me only so-so information. But, if I reply and note that my question wasn't answered, I can get an accurate response, from the same person, within a day. I honestly believe that this person is just overloaded from a ton of people all sending in questions and bug reports, and he/she is just tired sometimes. You know, human.

I'd strongly recommend you let them know about the problems you're having in a calm and clear way. Let them know that the information you got was wrong, let them know why it was wrong, and let them know what you found out. It'll make things better in the long run, as the person will have better info, and will be able to help the next less-than-happy customer with said info.

As for myself, I mostly get info from the same person, and I've gotten quite good results on everything from EULA violations to bug reports (I even got an e-mail back once telling me that what I thought was a bug wasn't a bug at all, but intentional, and got an explanation as to why. Most pleasing).

That's the best idea. They will never not correct themselves if they get something wrong. This is probably the most helpful post in this thread, I suggest listening to him.

metaltwisted · Mar 21, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by lg5000

As far as I'm aware.. Australia gets the Euro version. That means, you're gonna have a hard time finding the American version here, unless you order it online from the US.

There is a chance that we got the Euro version due to our English being closer to English English and not American English.. but.. I'm not sure about that.

btw, if you're playing on the American server, you can add the Euro version of Factions and still play on the American server.

If australia gets euro, then how come my pre-order disc I got had the american stuff in it?

metaltwisted · Mar 21, 2006, 10:51 AM // 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Just out of curiosit - where did you get this support? Via the www.guildwars.com website? It wasn't your shop, was it?
There is really no difference. If you've started playing you've by now found that you can switch between italian, spanish, german, and english-speaking EU freely, and between the EU and any other realm 5 times.

Uh, yeah. What does it matter what the packaging looks like?

I'd say it's a pretty safe bet you can, as you can move between realms.

So, to sum things up, you had questions about the regional packaging of guildwars which you got conflicting answers to.

I respectfully submit you need to reconsider your definition of 'disgraceful'.

1. It's NCSoft support, not A.Net support
2. How come I don't see koreans go around killing monsters in the european region then? And how come I can't set my thing to european region?
3. I'm not asking why does ti matter what the packaging looks like, it's so I know I got the european version and not the american(I'm going overseas soon, hello?!?!?!?!)
4. I still find it disgraceful. I played another game(not to note it here) and they had support within a day too. And they got the correct answers every time during my 5 years I played it

And thsi is something that bothers me, they sent me this reply:
Hello Bob,

Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars customer support team. We received your petition in regards to [Package difference?]. Unfortunately, we can not offer support for this issue. We encourage you in having a look at the various web sites, forums and articles on the net, where you should be able to quickly find an answer/solution to your query.

Here you can find a list of the recommended forums and fansites:
http://www.guildwars.com/community/default.html#forums

Please feel free to contact the support team again if you encounter any other problems.

Kind regards,
GM GUS

NCsoft Europe
Guild Wars Customer Support
http://www.guildwars.com

Why would they don't know the answer but fans know the answer? That's kinda stupid... If they didn't release the information in the first place then nobody would know

lg5000 · Mar 21, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by metaltwisted

If australia gets euro, then how come my pre-order disc I got had the american stuff in it?

Appologies for posting link + quote from another board..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
That would be me, really. I'm an Aussie myself, (though, obviously, now residing in the UK) and NCsoft Europe currently handles publishing in Australia/New Zealand. I do pay particular attention to issues raised by Aus/NZ players, and I'm sure there are staff in the office who are sick of hearing me ask about preorders and CE etc.

http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....0&postcount=15 <- taken from there.

As to why you have a American version.. I have no idea.

Xenrath · Mar 21, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

Well he has a point in that I'd be concerned if I bought a game, couldn't find out which "region" it was in for certain and then bought an expansion/sequel and found out it was a different region and thus not link with the original.

You'll need these facts
1 - Find out which region your game is
2 - Find out which region chapter 2 is (depending where you buy it)
3 - Find out for a fact if you can link different region chapters. If you can't link cross region accounts, then it's very important to get points 1 and 2 resolved.

lg5000 · Mar 21, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Yeah, but it's been discussed many times. It doesn't matter what region the packaging is from, you will be able to join it onto your current account. (gail I believe explained it more than once.. though.. this time, I don't have the reference material nearby)

Pevil Lihatuh · Mar 21, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32

I've had mixed feelings about the support. They're fast to respond, which is always good, but depending on the staff its good or bad. Some of their policies stink too (guy threatens rape and murder, gets 2 day ban). They were helpful with my hacked account, though when I asked why another new password came through a week later (i hadn't requested one) instead of htem saying "there was a request x day, didn't you do it?" all i got was "never give out your account info"... yes, thank you, i know that, now tell me if someone requested a new password! *sigh*