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living too die · Mar 20, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

an idea: maybe anet could make so you earn pve fame when you complete and exceptionally difficult part of the game. like, completing a difficult mission's bonus, defeating titan quests, even reach a exp milestone. you would earn it the same as fame in HA, 1 fame per million exp attained, per difficult bonus completed, per difficult mission completed flawlessly, um... cant think of anything else atm, just stuff like that. also, make it so that the mission/bonus can be repeated but fame cannot be re-earned. this way the farmers get a bit of fame, the good pve players can gain a good amount of fame. i like the idea of pve rank but it would have to be implemented very strtegically, i would hate to see pve outposts turn into HA... many goodplayers cant get into groups because they havent put as much time in as the hardcore players that they MAY in fact be more skilled than. now.. feel free to flame you know you want to

edit*- fame earned for exp should come at 1 per 1 mil or so to keep farmers from excelling and fame should carry through all toons so your lower levels or those that need missions can emote

Zaka · Mar 21, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

There is a form of "Emote" when forming a group in PVE now. That "Emote" is called LEVEL. I am careful NOT to include the LVL 7 charactors in the group on ANY MISSION OR QUEST past Ascalon. "Why?" you ask? If you made it out of the Ascalon area and are still level 7 then you are running. Since you have so much money, you do not need the ruin my attempt to complete this mission or quest because you "just want to have someone get you through it" without paying.

If an emote for PVE is designed, I would like to see it reflect:

1) The percentage of mission/quests completed.
2) Number of drops vs. Number of missions/quests run.

What does this mean?

You just go post-searing....
There are ~10 quests in Ascalon City, you completed 0 = 0% Emote

You are in Piken Square....
There are 4 quests available, but you completed all of the Ascalon quests, 10/14 = 65% Emote and you have not dropped from any quest/mission you started = 90%+ (When-the Going-Gets-Tough-the-Tuff-get-Going) Emote

So later in the game, say Lions Arch area.....
I would be willing to ask for a 75% Quest Emote and a 90%+ "No-Drop" Emote to insure that I wasn't getting a quitter that only gets runs through the quests/missions.

stickyballs · Mar 21, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

Emotes based on experience is really bad especially for people that split time between two accounts.

Lol. I know people who do that so they ALWAYS have the favor for ToA, lol.

Truth is, we don't need ANYMORE Rank discrimination in GW. GW has already been crippled by the fact that it is almost impossible to get started in HA unless you have rank. You have to grind for weeks to get a measly few fame. XP is also a lot of people have. I can see people re-doing FoW quests OVER and OVER for XP so they can have another emote. Now newcomers can't get in a party group for missions w/o showing their emote. They're like "emote, wut?!!". Then the party leader shows like 1,000,000 XP emote that his main character owns and then does /kick.

NOT a good idea. Enough HA discrimination as there is and newcomers would get alienated.

schutz · Mar 21, 2006, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Why would you want it its stupid, doing all the missions will only earn you a few hundred thousand XP and that isnt hard to do them all then anything extra will be classed as farming so why bother?

TimberOwl · Mar 21, 2006, 09:19 AM // 09:19

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

Lol. I know people who do that so they ALWAYS have the favor for ToA, lol.

Truth is, we don't need ANYMORE Rank discrimination in GW. GW has already been crippled by the fact that it is almost impossible to get started in HA unless you have rank. You have to grind for weeks to get a measly few fame. XP is also a lot of people have. I can see people re-doing FoW quests OVER and OVER for XP so they can have another emote. Now newcomers can't get in a party group for missions w/o showing their emote. They're like "emote, wut?!!". Then the party leader shows like 1,000,000 XP emote that his main character owns and then does /kick.

NOT a good idea. Enough HA discrimination as there is and newcomers would get alienated.

Ill second that, farming with scrolls also reaps XP on a mass scale. This would add a bit of problems i think, especially later in factions when we are all trying to group for that "Big" Mission. Wouldn't be very nice if youre asked to flash your emote just to get into a group, might aswell get rid of xp if they do that. Ridiculous, nuff said.

Although i do believe that pvp emotes are also slightly overated and often abused, they should scrap that to.

Battle Torn · Mar 21, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

I think having a way to show your expereince is a good idea. Im just not convinced you can do this by completing part of the game or with exp points. People who have played for 500 hours can still be rubbish so what else can rate your as a good player?...maybe you are missing the point...lets have and experience emote..just because we can and this may give the dedicated player a reason to play...A MUST! just Dont use it if you dont want to.

BeowulfKamdas · Mar 21, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

I'm voting no on this..

There seems to be plenty of issues with the fame emote so why add to those troubles? Besides showing off and excluding people out of PUGs, I don't see why this is necessary.

Perhaps something will be incorporated in the zone control aspects in Factions (worked to control like a billion zones and you get a new emote XD or a town parade in your honor)

ophidian409 · Mar 21, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

exp emote is a good idea, anet just need to divide the experience points into mission quest/ farming, so people who gain alot of quest experience will get a emote.

wsmcasey · Mar 21, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by schutz

Why would you want it its stupid, doing all the missions will only earn you a few hundred thousand XP and that isnt hard to do them all then anything extra will be classed as farming so why bother?

Because you gain knowledge of the game by actually performing the quests/mission/bonuses (this is the true experience that you can't gain by just farming.) It may not be that hard to you, but thats not the point. The point is your gaining knowledge of the game, and if incorporated correctly an emote would let you show others what you have accomplished. In my opinion, to do all quests/mission/bonuses in the game including the titan quests takes a considerable amount of time and patience.

EternalTempest · Mar 21, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by wsmcasey

Because you gain knowledge of the game by actually performing the quests/mission/bonuses (this is the true experience that you can't gain by just farming.) It may not be that hard to you, but thats not the point. The point is your gaining knowledge of the game, and if incorporated correctly an emote would let you show others what you have accomplished. In my opinion, to do all quests/mission/bonuses in the game including the titan quests takes a considerable amount of time and patience.

Agree, XP can be earned easily if A) play a lot B) farm and gives a false "sense" of game experience if it's B).

Example if your B) and 2/3 of your xp is off griffons doesn't say too much.

TimberOwl · Mar 21, 2006, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by ophidian409

exp emote is a good idea, anet just need to divide the experience points into mission quest/ farming, so people who gain alot of quest experience will get a emote.

What you said really doesn't make sense. You only gain exp from completing a mission + bonus once, you'll never gain anymore exp if you complete it again. So, a emote for mission completion wouldn't really be of any point. It would only portray what stage you are at in the storyline missions.

heavyduty · Mar 21, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

My stance on this is in the middle.

I'm REALLY tired of stupid pug players in end area parts of the game that burden everyone with their lack of skill.

It's obvious that they got run everywhere in the game and due to my recent tests, they dont even know where or how to craft materials for the '15k' armor they are so proudly wearing. You can probably guess what I'm hinting at.

ophidian409 · Mar 21, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by TimberOwl

What you said really doesn't make sense. You only gain exp from completing a mission + bonus once, you'll never gain anymore exp if you complete it again. So, a emote for mission completion wouldn't really be of any point. It would only portray what stage you are at in the storyline missions.

I was saying mission & quest, quests from underworld/fissure give you tons of exp. If someone is doing them over and over again then they are truely experienced, those experience from quests should be seperated from the exp from hunting other things else. When you do a long quest, no one wants to join a group that sucks and people rage quit or don't even know what skills to bring.

schutz · Mar 21, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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my monk has 2.1 million exp on her and has never even seen a farming area unless i was healing a group for a mission in that area. So automatically i farm with my monk? GET A CLUE

So your saying if you do all the missions you get 2.1 million xp huh? once youve done a mission you have already done it is not neccesary to re do it and if people only do every mission once they wont have millions of XP

Chilly Ress · Mar 21, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by Opeth11

But think about the players without a ton of experience. I can see it now:
Inside Thunderhead Keep
Me: Monk LFG!
random whisper : 'wuts ur xp rank'
Me: o.o I don't have one
random whisper : 'we dun wnt n00bs go away'
Me: But I can heal! I've played a monk in PvP before!
-ignored-

Now, is that what we really want?

Note: i kept my farming comments to myself! Yay!!

yes, very cool, Heelz.

In a hurry, dont know if anyone has put this guy in place yet. OK bro, this is EXACTLY what happens in HA. Example: R6+ RSpike LF Bonder! PM!

Then that r1 bonder could say, "but i have been bonding in SF for 3 months!

So if there were experience emotes it could totally devastate PvE as PvP emotes have. *Puts on flame resistant armor*

Shadowspawn X · Mar 21, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by schutz

anyone who has 500k+ experience farms alot so why does it matter

Thats ridiculious, I have well over 8 million XP on my ranger and I don't farm period.

ange1 · Mar 21, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

=D 8 mil...

Riceboi · Mar 22, 2006, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Thats ridiculious, I have well over 8 million XP on my ranger and I don't farm period.

I'm gonna have to call BS on this! Explain how you have that much experience. If you do UW/FOW/tombs runs with people that is farming. I can't wait to hear this.

Savio · Mar 22, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

You only hit high levels of exp by farming and/or repeatedly doing quests a la UW, FoW, and SF. Neither of those show any real "experience" except for those specific areas.

Shadowspawn X · Mar 22, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by Riceboi

I'm gonna have to call BS on this! Explain how you have that much experience. If you do UW/FOW/tombs runs with people that is farming. I can't wait to hear this.

You don't know me so you need to watch your mouth and be civil. I have been doing all 11 quests in FoW at 100,000 XP per pop not counting XP for the monster kills two or three times a week for months. I get 7-9 skill points per run depending on if I use scrolls or not. My ranger has been semi-retired from PvE awaiting chapter two. I am leader of a small guild "Fellowship of Champions" [FoC] and we specialize in PvE. We are not farmers, but explorers and questers. I have had all 452 skills on my ranger for months and have 268 skill points saved for chapter two. Thats called playing the game not farming, loot is a byproduct of playing the game, not the game itself.

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Originally Posted by Savio

You only hit high levels of exp by farming and/or repeatedly doing quests a la UW, FoW, and SF. Neither of those show any real "experience" except for those specific areas.

I have completed every quest in this game except for complete UW clearence, on all my charactors SF/Titan/FoW/Missions/Bonuses, but I am stuck on the Ice King in UW. I and my guildies are very experienced in this game. Not to get into all that but since I am called a BS'r or my experience is gonna be belittled lets just get it straight.