Curse

eudas · Mar 15, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by fallot

Tombs cant be farmed like that, you need real groups to get those greens. You cant blame everything on chinese farmers.

well, this one in particular that i dealt with obviously was, to the point where he didn't understand conversation, only haggling (amounts) and certain words (victo's blade). or liked playing dumb. *shrug*

the main point, though, was that he seemed to not be "up" on current economy pricing of items, though. it's like they lag behind the "current developments" on pricing. or maybe they're just greedy, and they know that with enough churn, they'll get *someone* who'll pay the price they're asking. dunno.

the guy who sold it for 12k was american.

eudas

Jas D · Mar 15, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Well I finally got both my mods and payed 1,5k max. I won't even pay 2k for one.

I just have a feeling the economy will get worse once Factions is released. Either something will me overpriced, or underpricing on new items will drop the economy. Nothing you can do, I suppose.

m30wc0w · Mar 15, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

You can't blame everything on Chinese farmers. But it does help take the blame of everyone else

eudas · Mar 15, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by m30wc0w

You can't blame everything on Chinese farmers. But it does help take the blame of everyone else

but... but... but they're such a convenient scapegoat! *bottom lip quivers* :~(

hehehe :P

eudas

Raziel665 · Mar 15, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Its really just all about where you look.

A week or 2 I bought a Blood Magic +1 (17%) for 5k.... But, just now as a passed trough LA from the Battle Islands, I was able to pickup a (18%) one for only 600g.

MMSDome · Mar 15, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Jas D

Well, I got my zealous sword mod but I need an axe mod now.. here come the 5k-12k offers! Gotta love it.

If anyone has an axe haft, my IGN is Mr Indomitable. Thanks though MMS, if you have one of these let me know. I'm tired of dealing with these idiots.

And yes, I love zealous.. it's great. Sundering really is horrible, I dislike it. I don't see how they go for as much as they do personally. I love vampiric also..

will do, ive completed my collection of zealous weapons and have moved onto vampiric for my collection. Ill pm you if i get any zealous axe mods, ill sell for 1k.

psst. zealous + cyclone axe + lots of monsters = Energy Managment

nathan_frd · Mar 31, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

I think the rise in prices for mods is a good thing it means everything is not rock bottom prices other wise farming and the game then becomes, well dare i say it not worth it and boring.

Former Ruling · Mar 31, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

TO my blue comment:
We aren't talking about items with set values (like collectors/IDS/Greens) - all of these are blue or green. For DROPS (random stat-ed drops) - Blue is the bottom of the barrel mod wise.

Blue mods include: Precious, Highly Salvagable (These two are the mods you WANT on a blue drop, becuase atleast their worth something then), dmg mods that dont exceed 10% and usually have a weird requirement for the dmg mod (like while hexed, vs hexed, while UNDER 50% health, etc), Zealous, Elemental of any kind, 1/1 vamp, 5% sundering, 10-14% chance on any 20% chance mod (like +1 attribute), +1-2 energy insightful, and fortitude/hale mods that dont exceed +20.

The BOTTOM stats a mod can have basically.

Purples have Middle Stats (like a 3-4 insightful, 15-18% chance stuff, etc).

And Golds are the ONLY random drop color that can have perfect stat mods.

What I said was, Zealous is even avialable on blue (lowed mod) weapons. Meaning it is much easier to get than 5-10k worth.

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Now for Zealous energy gain. On weapons that you attack constantly with it gives you more than base energy.

1 Pip of Regen gives you 1 energy every 3 secs. On an axe for example you are getting 1 energy every 1.33 secs, basically amounting to just over 2 pips worth of energy. So giving up 1 pip for it is worth it. Add in multi-attack things like Cyclone Axe and you blow the equation out of the water.

Now for Sundering. you have a 10% chance at 10% pen. Now remember for me that this game takes percent chances on a per happening basis, and not a whole. Meaning for each individual shot you have a 10% chance to have it activate, this DOES NOT MEAN it activates 10% of the time. Thats a common miscalculation. Factoring in luck and such, its actually more like 7-8% of the time. If that.

10% pen. Lets keep it simple as possible and say your axe ALWAYS hits its 28 max on 60AL armor (it often hits less though). This would mean a flat line 28 per hit. Because 60AL you are taking 100% of the dmg. At 50AL (taking 10 off) you hit 119% dmg, or 33.32 (lets call it 33) in this case.

Thats 5 dmg more. Happening from 7-8% of the time (lets even say your lucky and it happens the full 10% of the time). Hell...those numbers even assume you hit the Sundering on your max dmg all the time..How is this ANY better than doing 3 more dmg 100% of the time with vampiric?

Theres no comparison...And the numbers come out even better in vamps favor as the AL goes up (The percent change from AL to AL lessens the higher you go up, like the difference between 80 and 70 AL is only 13% more dmg, and so on)

The only way Sundering would be useable over vamp is if it have 20% pen., or Vamp wasn't liefstealing dmg (which ignores everything, which is why it happens 100% of the time)

Don Zardeone · Mar 31, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

I've had a guy offering me a collectors crimson carapace shield (the one with stance damage reduction) for 45k (happened like a week ago).
Some other guy was selling iron ore for 25g a piece. Steel goes for 200+ for some reason and everybody buys tanned hide at 5g a piece while the merchant gives you 9g O.o

Imo, zealous, vampiric and the elemental mods are underrated. Which is good for me because it keeps the prices low =D

*cough* zealous+100blades *cough*
*cough* energy+adren mass combos*coughcough*
*sneeze*
*swallowpills*
*puke*

Lexar · Mar 31, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Bah zealous is lame, furious is where it's at

And it sounds cooler when you ctrl -click on your equipment too.