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bulletsmile · Feb 10, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

WHY is there so few mesmers around in PVE, compared to the other profesions like warriors???
I just recently made a male mesmer PVE char and then i thought, man......there must be like only 3% of all characters in the game that is male mesmers, and male warrior is like 25%.....
mesmer is very powerful if you ask me, so why are there so few of them????
Any comments guys....

CartmanPT · Feb 10, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Yup, mesmers are very powerful, buts lots of ppl dont know that, and that makes mesmers have really hard work to find groups for high lv areas, like Furnace FoW ou UW. Maybe that´s the reason, dont know.....

Starsky-sama · Feb 10, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

most ppl use mesm as secondary.

alot mesms in pvp.

most pve characs ppl build are content w/ the "norm" solo viable ones. (wa/x. mo/x. x/x etc)

ppl may have the notion that mesms are more team complimentary. (so they make em after theyve tried the rest.)

community trend/mindset on class.

/depends.

antialias02 · Feb 10, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

This discussion is age-old. The heart of it is, though, that Mesmers are simply misunderstood and unappreciated by the community at large.

The_Janitor · Feb 10, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

I play a PvE mesmer and I couldn't be happier. Bullet, I think it would be cool if we played sometime. IGN-Janitor Of Illusion

Xonic · Feb 10, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

reminds me of bards in everquest... very power class in skilled hands. but for every one skilled bard, there are 20 unskilled ones. thus giving the bards the bad reputition.

and also, both what mesmer and bard do are not very "visable". warriors tank mobs, monks heal warriors, elementalist drop big firing rocks from the sky... everyone can see what they are doing.

but not many people see/aware of what mesmers do. maybe once in a while people notice, hey, that monk boss's healing spells keep on getting interrupted. or hey, those mobs die real fast. then, maybe they'll related that to the otherwise forgotten mesmer in group.

antialias02 · Feb 10, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Xonic, you couldn't be more right. Heck, when I play my E-Denial build in PvP, *I* don't even see what my Mesmer is doing. I can only estimate my enemy's energy and hope that I'm really keeping him down. It's frustrating, but rewarding when you can feel your team creeping in on the other guy.

In PvE, and with a more robust shutdown/interrupt build, your team still might not notice, but the Mesmer definitely knows if he's doing his job. The best compliments I ever get in PvE are people telling me I'm doing a good job keeping the mobs ineffective. Or, simply, "Gj Mesmer." All I need to hear to make my day.

jciardha · Feb 10, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsmile

WHY is there so few mesmers around in PVE, compared to the other profesions like warriors???
I just recently made a male mesmer PVE char and then i thought, man......there must be like only 3% of all characters in the game that is male mesmers, and male wariror is like 25%.....
mesmer is very powerful if you ask me, so why are there so few of them????
Any comments guys....

Heh. Well, not only are mesmers underrepresented, but female mesmers seem to outnumber males.

Kudos to you for adding one more to an already rare breed.

Harmony · Feb 10, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

As a female mesmer, I can share your pain. People do tend to discount the importance of them in groups. Of course, the same thing could be said of smiting monks, death necros who choose NOT to be minion masters, and geomancers.

MinaDrakul · Feb 10, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Don't forget hydromancers!! But really, if you are not a healing/protecting monk, tank, fire ele, trapper and/or interrupt ranger, why are your playing the game!?! :rolls eyes:

(disclaimer: the above is meant to be funny, please do NOT take it as my opinion! thank you )

Griff Mon · Feb 10, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

It is one of the frustrating things of this game.

I built a monk and got into every mission in a flash. With my ranger and necro I had a tougher time. I am just getting a mesmer started and know how powerful they are. But unfortunately, people in lower levels of PvE are ignorant of this fact and can't see past their misconception that you need healing, slashing, and nuking to succeed. Other skills are ignored. I just did Iron Mines with henchies and my ranger because no one wants a ranger. I actually found it easier with henchies.

Also, female mesmers are cuter-- and there is a misconception out there that anyone that plays a male mesmer is gay and is teased by the other players in the game. Unfortunately, that is what you get with the thirteen year olds that populate this game.

Fortunately, once you get to the more advanced areas of the game all they want is mesmers, rangers, and necros and warriors and ele's are begging for groups to join.

Jetdoc · Feb 10, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff Mon

there is a misconception out there that anyone that plays a male mesmer is gay and is teased by the other players in the game.

I refuse to respond on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.

Mavrik · Feb 10, 2006, 07:51 PM // 19:51

There is a lack of mesmers because ppl can't take the time to fully understand the builds and skills. I play a mesmer and when I get into a group, I do my best to present why Mesmers are valuable.

People want an easy hack and slash build which mesmers are not

and the male ones do look gay... LOL so I play a female one.

MinaDrakul · Feb 10, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

I don't think the male mesmers look gay. They look like 19th century genltemen or something to me, to be honest.

Back on topic, people like the "flash". A sword or axe is much flashier then a hammer. Fire is much more noticable then water. Mesmers, necros, and rangers are not extremely flashy and so are much easier ignored.

Ayres_Spellbinder · Feb 10, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Mesmers are why underrated. My Mes was my second character, but my favorite. I very rarely use my W anymore. My Mes has completed everything. Everyone once in a while, I'll run into a team cpt that knows the importance of a Mes. Eventually, word will be spread, Mesmers Unite!

Harmony · Feb 10, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Very good observation, Mina, and I agree. People tend to like 'bells and whistles' and if you don't have those, then shame on you.

BTW...I like the male mesmers; they look like nobility.

Ultimate_Gaara · Feb 10, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

My guess is they think they are too weak because they can not tank, and everyone knows if you can't tank your useless.

Hmm too bad typing does not pick up sarcasm too well.

Kai Nui · Feb 10, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14

I'm probably in the smallest minority of guild wars. I'm not gay, I've played through the entire game except for 1 dwarf of SF and one Titan quest, and I used a Mesmer male character with a monk secondary. I don't have 15k armor, because I don't see any need for it, but I think it'd be nice to have some day, because I'd be one of the few male mesmers with 15k armor. Right now though I'm just collecting all the green mesmer items, because those have a real effect. Getting money is a bitch though.

bulletsmile · Feb 10, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Janitor

I play a PvE mesmer and I couldn't be happier. Bullet, I think it would be cool if we played sometime. IGN-Janitor Of Illusion

well my IGN: Bordaux The Mad
Btw, i'm in pre-searing for the moment, please wait a day or 2
and yes, male mesmer doesn't have to look "gay" as people claims, it's just the starter and some other armors that gives them a bad reputation.

Katari · Feb 10, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

With four char slots, and six primary classes, something's gotta give. Not only is it true that mesmers are not popular for farming, but additionaly, most people don't even have room for a mesmer. Monk, Tank, Necro, those are all common choices these days. Rangers are picking up some steam, while eles are loosing it, but mesmers have always been left out. Not just left behind, but left out entirely. The only way I could even make one right now would be to buy another account, or delete a current level 20.

Lack of char slots isn't the only problem, and adding more slots wouldn't solve the problem, but it sure would help. Mesmers are fun, and I'm dissapointed that I can't play one at all without deleting some char.