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Imaginos · Apr 09, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

The ONLY reason to merge is to get access to skills from the other zone for your chars.

If you don't merge you get 2 accts with 4 chars each and TWO storages. You can transfer between these by meeting on "battle isle" and trading.

Again the only reason to merge is access to new skills on old chars or old content on new chars.

TruePlayer · Apr 09, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

i have 2 prophecies accounts - so i will merge one with the factions addon.

but i won't buy the 3rd chapter or even preorder it, like i did with factions. i may be dumb, but i expected 4 more slots. i'm the kind of person who likes leveling his character from 1->20. i wouldn't mind having 2 elementalists each of them with a different element, altough my first has all skills and can switch easily.

anet dissappointed me very much with this decision and i absolutely don't like the idea to buy two copies of every chapter they release, just to be able to play every available character.
i already deleted my very first characters before i bought my second copy of prophecies. just because i wanted to play (and have) the 2 missing characters.

i will have fun with factions, but any additional chapter will not be preordered again.

"forcing" people to buy more than one copy is the way they make money for a free to play game - but not anymore with my money. :-)

hunter · Apr 09, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48

No one is forcing you to buy two copies of the game. 6 slots are more then enough.

If you merge: you will be more competitive in PVP and have access to both continents as well as skills. Traveling back and forth would also considered more fun by some.

If you do not merge: you will have 2 more slots but you won't be able to travel back and forth. You will have more storage room and be able to join two different guilds, also i don't really see that making much of a difference since you can't play the faction war with your Prophecy characters.

So honestly, i don't see what the problem is. those 6 slots are more then enough, you won't be playing more then 6 characters, and even if you do and eventually decide to want to play another one, you cans imply delete one of your previous characters and spend the next 3 days getting your new one to 60. This is not WoW my friend. here you can cap VERY easily.

Loviatar · Apr 09, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by Imaginos

If you don't merge you get 2 accts with 4 chars each and TWO storages. You can transfer between these by meeting on "battle isle" and trading.

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they have not stated that the Cantha branch vault will not be empty and waiting for Cantha goodies.

it would almost have to be for the new item storage requirements

dansamy · Apr 10, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Since I mainly GvG these days, I will most definitely be merging. I already used faction to unlock a lot of skills (and EVERY Rit/Ass rune!) during the two events. Also, I primarily monk and the some of the new monk skills will absolutely kick butt.

In my opinion, choosing not to merge would be a perfectly fine choice for the average PvE player. He'll, in essence, have 2 games from the same "family". (Like say, Roller Coaster Tycoon and Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 or somehting along those same lines.) The only way his Prophecies characters will be able to get Factions stuff is to trade across continents with the aid of a friendly guildmate.

I do know one thing for sure: I need more storage room for my armor sets!

Shantel Span · Apr 10, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

:: looks left ::

:: looks right ::

Guess i'm a severe minority. I won't be merging, because I'm bad at and don't like PvP. I like storyline,which is what i'm getting Factions. Secondly, I like character development. I love getting new characters. So what if I can't access new skills or old skills...it's about taking the limitations dished out to you, and finding a way around them.

I hope this was what you were looking for, when starting the thread...

GranDeWun · Apr 10, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

The reasons to merge outweigh those for not merging, IMO. However, the argument for merging would be completely overwhelming if not for:

- only 2 more slots per chapter means you never get enough to have a char in each primary, plus PvP
- unless storage increases, you now split the limited storage across more chars

Mordakai · Apr 10, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Shantel Span

:: looks left ::

:: looks right ::

Guess i'm a severe minority. I won't be merging, because I'm bad at and don't like PvP. I like storyline,which is what i'm getting Factions. Secondly, I like character development. I love getting new characters. So what if I can't access new skills or old skills...it's about taking the limitations dished out to you, and finding a way around them.

I hope this was what you were looking for, when starting the thread...

Yes, yes it was, thanks!

A Unique viewpoint, too (and one I admire). To continue with the Magic analogy, buying unlinked accounts is like just playing with just new expansions, which I always thought was more fun then "mixing and matching".

nimloth32 · Apr 10, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

/merge

Buoyancy · Apr 10, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by hunter

No one is forcing you to buy two copies of the game. 6 slots are more then enough.

Really? It's possible to have one of every primary class and another character for PVP with six slots? Oh, it's not? Then six slots are not "more than enough". Don't be so incredibly ignorantly arrogant to think that because you are happy to suck down Anet's marketing kool-aid that the rest of the world is also that naive.

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So honestly, i don't see what the problem is. those 6 slots are more then enough, you won't be playing more then 6 characters, and even if you do and eventually decide to want to play another one, you cans imply delete one of your previous characters and spend the next 3 days getting your new one to 60.

I'm sorry, your solution to playing all primary classes is to delete an old character? What kind of idiot are you?

hunter · Apr 10, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by Buoyancy

Really? It's possible to have one of every primary class and another character for PVP with six slots? Oh, it's not? Then six slots are not "more than enough". Don't be so incredibly ignorantly arrogant to think that because you are happy to suck down Anet's marketing kool-aid that the rest of the world is also that naive.

I'm sorry, your solution to playing all primary classes is to delete an old character? What kind of idiot are you?

Ok smartass, since you are willing to play the damn PVE campaign 7 times from start to finish, then go ahead and don't merge, easy as that.

The rest of us who have better things to do than go through PVE scripted encounters countless times are gonna merge, enjoy the skills from both continents and be perfectly happy with 6 slots. Oh, we also won't buy a second copy of it.

Mordakai · Apr 10, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

OK, people, let's keep this civil and on topic, please. Thank you.

So far, if heard these reasons:

1. To join two Guilds
2. To start over with no carryover.

Any other reasons not to merge?

Loviatar · Apr 10, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

OK, people, let's keep this civil and on topic, please. Thank you.

So far, if heard these reasons:

1. To join two Guilds
2. To start over with no carryover.

Any other reasons not to merge?

there was also all 8 primaries.

ass/rit plus asian version of 2 professions not having slots chapter 1

Phaern Majes · Apr 10, 2006, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Only reason I could see for not merging, would be if you have 2 working computers. Because both chapters share the battle islands. So if you could get both accounts online at the same time, you could switch items in and out between them. So that would mean double the storage. Only down side would be the inconvience of having to zone to and from the battle isles to do so. That and I guess if you were desparate to bring your main char to Factions.

Buoyancy · Apr 10, 2006, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by hunter

Ok smartass, since you are willing to play the damn PVE campaign 7 times from start to finish, then go ahead and don't merge, easy as that.

Factions is an overpriced expansion, so merging accounts to gain access to everything with your old characters is the default state for the game. Thus, Anet is cheating me out of two character slots that I've already paid for. It's not like they will _ever_ offer new character slots for purchase. They are too wedded to their extra income from those weak-willed people who are willing to buy extra copies of a game to obtain what should be available in the original game.

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The rest of us who have better things to do than go through PVE scripted encounters countless times are gonna merge, enjoy the skills from both continents and be perfectly happy with 6 slots.

It's always nice to be a sheep, isn't it. I suppose you're one of those people of about average intelligence who are stupid enough to buy into Anet's marketing "math".

Buoyancy · Apr 10, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

OK, people, let's keep this civil and on topic, please.

The only people who care about civility online are those who are either too prissy to have a real discussion, or too stupid to deal with actual arguments. It's always the least intelligent people in any online discussion who hide behind the moderators to control their superiors.

Phaern Majes · Apr 10, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

My aren't we the all rebelling disgruntled person today? Possibly people keep it civil because "real discussions" are easier to understand, when they aren't filled with emotions. Not to mention the "real discussion" tends to get lost when people don't keep it civil. Saying so, I will point out that we have wondered away from the "real discussion" here.

"Factions is an overpriced expansion".... No it is a stand alone game. As of which you can treat it as such by not merging your accounts, or you can merge it in. The choice is voluntary, if you don't want to don't, if you do then do.

"They are too wedded to their extra income"... 3 words: World of Warcraft. Go play that for a year and then tell me how bad we have it here. Yes they are in it for money, as are all people who make games (if only for the fact you need money to live). However, they do care that people enjoy the game. If they didn't, why do you think Gaile would be appearing both in the game and on this forum? Why do you think they have support to report problems, and the people to deal with those problems. All that costs money for them. Yes of course Anet is too greedy and we are all fools for playing GW /sarcasm

M Sparkle · Apr 10, 2006, 07:55 PM // 19:55

I will definitely be merging.
Ive already tried any/all of the original professions that interest me, so I'll be using the two new ones to start an As and Rt. I tend to stick to playing my main char anyway, so I want to continue through factions with him aswell.

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Factions is an overpriced expansion

Overpriced?!?!?!
How can you possibly say it's overpriced? I think you'd find that most people who have ever used the /age command would disagree with you. I've been playing GW since it was released, I paid $50 for it...almost a year ago. Show me a similar online game that gives you that many hours of play for $50.
Factions will come out, and I will buy it...for $50...and likely play it for another year.
Damn you Anet for gouging me for $100 for two years and countless hours of gameplay.

I wish I was playing wow and paying how many times more?

Karmakin · Apr 10, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Anet isn't being "nice", they're being good business people... because there's no way 4 linked slots cost significantly more than 4 unlinked slots.

If you think that it's the suits that are making this decision, you're on crack. This is something that's clearly coming from the game design team, probably at the highest level.

My take on it, is that ANet wants you to play more with less characters. They want you to become better with those characters that you do have. I don't think it's the best business sense, but they have some lofty ideals for their game, and they're going to damn well do whatever they can to see those ideals through.

Buoyancy · Apr 10, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Possibly people keep it civil because "real discussions" are easier to understand, when they aren't filled with emotions.

Not really. What so-called "civil discussions" are good for is letting stupid people (or anybody of average human intelligenc) voice their opinions. The opinions of stupid people have no value whatsoever, so there's no reason to have a "civil discussion".

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"Factions is an overpriced expansion".... No it is a stand alone game.

Utter bullshit. It's an expansion that happens to cost $20 more than most expansions. You can only claim that it's a standalone game if the vast majority of the players of Factions haven't bought Prophecies.

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"They are too wedded to their extra income"... 3 words: World of Warcraft. Go play that for a year and then tell me how bad we have it here.

That WoW is worse does not make GW good. It makes GW better.

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However, they do care that people enjoy the game. If they didn't, why do you think Gaile would be appearing both in the game and on this forum?

She's a Public Relations person. It's her job to go to the various forums and market the game.

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Why do you think they have support to report problems, and the people to deal with those problems. All that costs money for them. Yes of course Anet is too greedy and we are all fools for playing GW /sarcasm

Then tell me. How did Blizzard manage to provide 9 slots per account for Diablo II, while at the same time allowing you to make as many accounts as you wanted for free? Are you going to try and tell me that GW has more memory requirements per character than D2?