Curse

Dave83 · Apr 11, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Okay I'm fed up. I grouped with a korean monk today because I could'nt find a european person. I try not to as a rule anyway but sometimes it's quiet - you want to get started you know?..

So: I accept invite, pay 500g and ask 'Do you need br?' - If mo does'nt I take desecrate enchantments in its place (should have blessed sig!). No answer, he zones us in. We kill the first few aaxtes after me running round like a looney because he would'nt stay still and kept handing me aggro. Then we kill the darkness's and he says 'You give me all ecto ok' Im already angry at this person so I type 'F__k no. Thats bs' Then he types 3:1. I reply 'no! 1:1' So the spitefull ass runs off and works it so he deliberately blocks me with Aaxtes so that he can go solo smites.

This is'nt intended strictly at every korean guildwars player - I realise it's not just them, and I realise it's not all of them; and im not picking on Koreans for the sake of it. But to be truthfull I can simply say that there are a large majority of korean monk players using the european servers ripping people off in the underworld. I can say in all honesty the following:

- Most of them dont speak english - you cant communicate with them. If you ask a question for example. 'Do you have sb?' they just say 'yes' you get down there and you see them zealots and run at the nightmares which works half the time, and half the time he's dead if more than one nm pops up.

- No korean has ever honoured 50/50 with me.

- Rather annoyingly, they have a habbit of opening trade soon as an ecto drops for you, demanding 3k.

- They make the run harder for yourselves by using SoJ and AoE such as Bal aura, SoW. This slows down smite attack rate. This then means they loose energy less quickely. They end up smiting SS straight off - even if you try suffering to cover they still make it alot harder for you because you cant always hit that cover in time. AoE makes foes scatter.

The bigger problem with this crap is that it starts to make people hate, buyest etc. Loads of Korean farmers ripping people off, using solo builds when it should be two man, this makes alot of european players wary. Then alot of european players start not sharing with those Korean players that do actually share - everyone gets an attitude. We start annoying them back and relationships become bitter.

I cant actually think of a solution but I would be in favor of Anet taking some measures to prevent or deter this. Imo being able to report people for ecto scamming would be nice but Im realistic and dont expect them to deal with 100's of problems like this.

So am I being over the top here? Because I swear it really is that bad - every time I party with one of these people - not that I will again, I'd rather wait half an hr.

Farin · Apr 11, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Morale of the History? Don't group with koreans.

lyra_song · Apr 11, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Farm with your friends.

AxeMe · Apr 11, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I don't think any nationality has cornered the market on being a jerk.

I agree that the behavior was wrong but it bothers me to single out an entire group of people based on experiences with a few players.

There's a lot of that here ... notes about Chinese farmers, Korean monks, etc. And, in some forums, I've seen people complain about the lack of English skills - or even to make fun of that lack - by someone who speaks another language. I can't help but think that - even the worst examples of English - are so much better than I could do if I tried to communicate in Chinese or Korean.

Anyway, there seems to be a lot of stereotyping, a lot of attacks based on where someone lives.

It's almost as if people were saying "I only want to be around people just like me."

The beauty of the Internet is that - in theory at least - it removes boundaries and lets us meet folks from all over the world and get to know them.

This all makes me sound as if I am preaching and I do apologize for that. So this isn't aimed at the original poster at all. It was just another example that finally made me want to say something about this.

Count to Potato · Apr 11, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Koreans have no honor, japan and china does!

=HT=Ingram · Apr 11, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

yea there are all kinds. heck I went down the other day and even though I paid 100% of the travel cost they still expected me to fork over all my ecto to them. Whatever... as a rule You keep what drops for you period. on occasion if the guy is really good I may divy up something for him if something decent didn't drop for them, especially if they paid something for entry. BUT... Most consider this a gratuity, not a requirement. Those that DEMAND 50/50 or worse 75/25 prob have the area so farmed out that nothing ever drop for them anyway. so you know what? tough titty says the kitty, but the milks still good.

madman420 · Apr 11, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05

=O OMG people out there actually request 3:1 drop ratio?!! That's ridiculous.

The worst I have ever experienced was a 55 who said "you give me bow" when a gold storm bow dropped for me.

I usually only farm with friends now, though. But the occasional time I do pick up a random 55, I always expect the worst. That way if they turn out to be decent, it's a nice surprise.

Alleji · Apr 11, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Haven't had any of this on American servers... as long as you say "50/50" any time before the second ecto drops, no problems whatsoever.

But I haven't farmed UW in about 2 months... maybe things have changed.

floplag · Apr 11, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

im sorry but can someone tell me when this "im entitled to your drops" BS came about ?

last i checked whoever it dropped for, was whose it was ... ive been on the waaay short end of that most of the time, but ive always been happy for those that got the items..and darn sure never demanded half.

to those that this became a job to, it is ruining it for others that its still fun. nationalitiy has nothing to do with it though, as ive seen it from all types

VGJustice · Apr 11, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Make a N/Mo and take along Vital Blessing. It may not accomplish much, but it'll make you feel better.

The undead Mesmer · Apr 11, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Hehe thats a great idea VGJ

SirShadowrunner · Apr 11, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Bottom line is this, if you want all the ecto's that are dropped then go by yourself,
I can just see me asking everybody in a PUG to hand over all ectos, shards,
sapphires, and rubies plz.......ya right, that is plain rude and selfish....
I do lots of 2-3 manUW trap runs, and we do not divy up all the ectos, just
the luck of the draw, and if we invite someone along, we pay the entry fee,
no asking for 333 gold plz.....

Mercury Angel · Apr 11, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by VGJustice

Make a N/Mo and take along Vital Blessing. It may not accomplish much, but it'll make you feel better.

Or Symbiosis or Fertile Season. If you pay for part of it, and someone wants to play games like that, despite not supporting griefing usually, this time, I'll turn the other cheek <_<

Str0b0 · Apr 11, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner

Bottom line is this, if you want all the ecto's that are dropped then go by yourself,
I can just see me asking everybody in a PUG to hand over all ectos, shards,
sapphires, and rubies plz.......ya right, that is plain rude and selfish....
I do lots of 2-3 manUW trap runs, and we do not divy up all the ectos, just
the luck of the draw, and if we invite someone along, we pay the entry fee,
no asking for 333 gold plz.....

For real. Trap groups never whine about distribution of wealth, at least none I've ever been in. I also never ask for a split on the entry fee because even if I get no ecto I'll get at least one chest and a bunch of other miscellaneous drops that will pay the 1k and then some.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 11, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Tbh, farming UW over and over is for the greedy. I don't see why you're surprised (especially if you consider this guy might be one of those sweatshop farmers we always hear about)

I'm not saying this guy did anything I don't disapprove of, but I really don't think you're in the position to rant/complain/etc. about it. Just solo it yourself.

Blaze Emup · Apr 11, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I usually spam that you must have Spellbreaker to go with me. If I dont see Spellbreaker used within the first minute i ditch them. I'd rather waste 500 gold than screw with these guys.

VGJustice · Apr 11, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Usually when I go UW, it's a trap group, and I've never EVER heard of this drop split. It's usually just ":O!" "grats!" "I never get anything T.T" never "You should give me that because you wouldn't have gotten it without me". If that's how they want to be, then the griefing has already started.

Usually I do split the cost of entry, though. 250g comes back REAL fast.

The New Guy · Apr 11, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count to Potato

Koreans have no honor

But they have lots of good lookin women!

Ctb · Apr 11, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Quote:

Just solo it yourself.

As opposed to soloing it with other people?

TheGuildWarsPenguin · Apr 11, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Im Korean, I never ask for any drop split or anything.