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Andy_M · Apr 10, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

I am eternally hopeful of this fact.

beanerman_99 · Apr 10, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Here is my 2 cents:

IT IS JUST A GAME!

Pick a side, play it, and if you don't like or get bored then just start playing for the other side. I plan on doing both sides. Will it take time to do? Sure it will. But that is the up side. I played Prophecies for just a few months before I finished just about everything. Hopefully Factions with its 2 sides will take much more time to complete, that would be a good thing.

"Just my opinion, I could be wrong"-Dennis Miller

dreamhunk · Apr 10, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Good discussion about the nature of role-playing, and why computer games can never replace your own imagination as the best source of stories...

But if the "Kill All _______", are any indication of the future, our choices will have dramatic and "real" effects on the game world. And that makes me very excited...

Back to the idea of rayne

There should be alternative "peaceful" missions that also give XP, so those that don't want to take part in the Faction Wars still have alternatives to earn rewards.

that is what I am talking about, If I go to war give me a reason to go to war. let me choices to go to war or not. let my choice affect the out come. Let me learn from my mistakes that is what rpg is all about.

Diablo™ · Apr 10, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

that is what I am talking about, If I go to war give me a reason to go to war. let me choices to go to war or not. let my choice affect the out come. Let me learn from my mistakes that is what rpg is all about.

I agree, similarly I dont feel like fighting a war for Kurzicks just because they're being invaded by a bunch of pirates, or the Luxons just because their ego is so big they have to rub it on other people's face, frankly I just don't give a crap about their agendas.

But if either the Luxons or Kurzicks invade my gold storage... Then it gets personal... I will definitely be going to WAR. There WILL be HELL ...to pay!

Phaern Majes · Apr 10, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

I don't really like the story line as I saw it, but it was just a preview. It can only get better in my opinion. So I took a different approach... that approach being, I like pirates, Maddox likes pirates, and with that said: Turtle Clan, MOVE OUT!

Rhedd · Apr 10, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99

IT IS JUST A GAME!

Ahh, the old it's-just-a-game-eyerolling argument. Surely the most enlightened argument against roleplaying ever devised by man! It's also great justification for abandoning parties mid-quest, and griefing of all sorts. And, on top of that, the soothing blue of the eye-rolly face is good for curing headaches! Genius. ^_^

I find this an interesting thread. I especially like Diablo's (tm) opinion that he'll only go to war if someone hurts him personally. Neat! Interesting the way it's harder to get people to support a war in a video game than it is to get them to support one in real life. ^_^

Like I, and many others, have said before; You haven't been given a good reason to fight yet, so if you feel like you don't have a reason, you DON'T... yet. I'm sure that when the game is actually released and you start playing it, there will be more motivation than whether or not you like the color black.

And yeah, Mordakai, I'd noticed that even in the tiny "Advertiquests", Factions quests have offered us more ability to actually change the world (the thing angshuman says is essential for "RPing") than anything in Prophesies. Good trend!

Lady Lozza; I thought we all WERE the Nerevarine... I know I am! heheh. So do you use my faces for Morrowind? Do you?! ^_^ Oh, and if you don't mind, I added you to my friends list in-game. Maybe I'll remember to say hi sometime.

Lady Lozza · Apr 11, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by Rhedd

Lady Lozza; I thought we all WERE the Nerevarine... I know I am! heheh. So do you use my faces for Morrowind? Do you?! ^_^ Oh, and if you don't mind, I added you to my friends list in-game. Maybe I'll remember to say hi sometime.

LOL! You know what I'm talking about. In Morrowind you were THE hero because it was a single player game. In an MMO you can't be THE hero, you can be a hero but not THE hero. My Nerevarine was a dark elf female and that combo made for some amusement throughout the playing of the game

Np, I'll do the same, nice to talk to like minded people every now and then.

Snowman · Apr 11, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by Diablo™

I agree, similarly I dont feel like fighting a war for Kurzicks just because they're being invaded by a bunch of pirates, or the Luxons just because their ego is so big they have to rub it on other people's face, frankly I just don't give a crap about their agendas.

Well, this is exactly the point, neither side have the moral high ground!

Your role in Factions, as the story line goes, is to BRING THEM BOTH TOGETHER!

in the mean time your PERSONAL agenda is to gain access to these special extra content in each of the different areas to get the best armour to make the most gold to unlock all the skills..or whatever it is you want from the game.

and Because neither side you fight for is any better than the other you SWAP SIDES as often as often as you please to experience the game-play content on both sides of the line.

You need to Change your attitude from one of..

"I must pour my heart and soul into one side"...

To an attitude of..

"how can I use these to waring factions to my personal advantage, my Guilds advantage AND my alliance advantage"

Once you look at it in this way suddenly it doesn't matter a damn which side your fighting for... because your fighting for yourself, for your guild and for your alliance!! to hell with the rest of them!

beanerman_99 · Apr 11, 2006, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by Rhedd

Ahh, the old it's-just-a-game-eyerolling argument. Surely the most enlightened argument against roleplaying ever devised by man! It's also great justification for abandoning parties mid-quest, and griefing of all sorts. And, on top of that, the soothing blue of the eye-rolly face is good for curing headaches! Genius. ^_^

I find this an interesting thread. I especially like Diablo's (tm) opinion that he'll only go to war if someone hurts him personally. Neat! Interesting the way it's harder to get people to support a war in a video game than it is to get them to support one in real life. ^_^

Like I, and many others, have said before; You haven't been given a good reason to fight yet, so if you feel like you don't have a reason, you DON'T... yet. I'm sure that when the game is actually released and you start playing it, there will be more motivation than whether or not you like the color black.

And yeah, Mordakai, I'd noticed that even in the tiny "Advertiquests", Factions quests have offered us more ability to actually change the world (the thing angshuman says is essential for "RPing") than anything in Prophesies. Good trend!

Lady Lozza; I thought we all WERE the Nerevarine... I know I am! heheh. So do you use my faces for Morrowind? Do you?! ^_^ Oh, and if you don't mind, I added you to my friends list in-game. Maybe I'll remember to say hi sometime.

You miss understand. My 'Its just a game" stance is not griefing, leaving or anything else you decribed. I am just saying that people take the story line waaaaay to serious. These people that are complaining about the "war" between factions are probably the same ones who play games like GTA:San Andreas and found nothing wrong with killing cops, picking up prostitutes, stealing cars and the other countless crimes you do in that game.

Don't you realize that when you played through GW:Prophecies you were at 'war' with the White Mantle, the Stone Summit, and the Undead? YOu didn't get to choose sides in Prophecies. You fought for the "good" side. But who's to say the Stone Summit or the White Mantle didn't have their reasons for fighting against you?The only difference that Factions presents is that this time, YOU GET TO CHOOSE who to fight for. Is that so bad and horrible and morally wrong?

Those are my reasons for saying that ITS JUST A GAME. Don't take it so damned serious. I am not trying to be an ass or anything but my advice is that if you really, truly have a problem with the storyline of Factions then don't buy it or play it.

Count to Potato · Apr 11, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

No dilema here, kurzicks own anyway

Mordakai · Apr 11, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99

The only difference that Factions presents is that this time, YOU GET TO CHOOSE who to fight for. Is that so bad and horrible and morally wrong?

It's not, I think the more choices we have, the better!

That's why I hope their are real choices for those who don't want to take sides, ie, neutral quests that can only be taken if you have no faction or something.

beanerman_99 · Apr 11, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

It's not, I think the more choices we have, the better!

That's why I hope their are real choices for those who don't want to take sides, ie, neutral quests that can only be taken if you have no faction or something.

Agreed. the more choices the better. However I doubt that there will be neutral quests based on the nature and even the name "Factions". Maybe Chapter 3 will be more open-ended with even more and more choices.

Mordakai · Apr 11, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99

Agreed. the more choices the better. However I doubt that there will be neutral quests based on the nature and even the name "Factions". Maybe Chapter 3 will be more open-ended with even more and more choices.

Well, there is the "third" side: the Canthans. They have their own armor, so I suspect there will be some neutral content, although to what extent...

I hope Chapter 3 is more PvE focused.

ump · Apr 11, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Why pick only one side? Accumulate faction for the side your guild chooses. Sink all earned faction into favor for your alliance so you are at 0 faction for each side. Go back and accumulate faction for the opposite side. Sink all earned faction into yourself (armor pieces or whatever). Go back and forth as you maximize your faction for one side. Essentially, every time to spend all your faction, you get a choice of which side you want to earn faction for again.