Curse

Mr_T_bot · May 27, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Eolithic Monk

Not sure where to put this, but I do know that on occassion GM's visit or are a part of this forum so, here goes:

First of all, I understand the concept or reason why you at arena a.k.a NCSoft keep nerfing everything under the sun. What I am really pissed off about is this. I am an avid 55'er (InvinciMonk), I used to 55 the desert and various other places untill recently they were nerf'd not only for the NEW BREED of mobs but for those F*** up botters that screw everyting up for everyone.Then we were forced to move to those sorry A** trolls outside of droks. Now, don't get me wrong drops were ok after seeding ur character and everything was great, But as of the New build from yesterday it seems, once again you have screwed up the economy for us. I have done over 100 runs today. and recived the following. I net'd 10 k gp, got 2 frikkin chests, no gold drops what-so-ever. I also recieved TWO purples. Now .. I ask you, how do u expect people to keep playing this game if you @ NC or Arena Keep screwin crap up for us??? I have 4 copies of the game because I love this game but you make it VERY hard to stay in tune with it. If your attacking the bot issue then watch the international accounts because most of them are international. Nerf thier crap or ban them but why make everyone suffer. I think it's damn rediculas to use the " MASS PUNISHMENT" theory.. for one.. it doesn't work it only PISSES PEOPLE OFF. I've had enough of the nerfing go screw up something else. .....

They need to make 55 entirely unplayable. 55 Monk never should have been makeable in the first place. The only reason it was creatable was because of an idiotic bug left in the game - the bonuses for runes don't stack, but the negative effects do. Monks do not have enough attribute lines to use enough different runes to get to 55, but they do if they double up on a single rune, doubling up it's negative effects. Bug.

Mandy Memory · May 27, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Because this game is not made for solo....Therefore they should nerf all places so they cant be soloed...or not as easily...Anyone can solo with a cookiecutter build, make your own for once.

Zaxan Razor · May 28, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Why oh why oh why can people not get their head around the ANTI-FARM CODE??

Anet didnt 'nerf' anything, you have just farmed the trolls too much over a certain period of time.

Spend a day or two somewhere else and then go back to the trolls.

Meo Yeong · May 28, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29

I get entertainment from farming not pvping and drops suck. I have killed sunreach 79+ times (thats going other places and using the theory of resetting the drops and also using 4 different characters) now and still havnt gotten his shield since they made green drops rarer. In all seriousness I could just go to my main farming spot and get 100k in 6 hours and buy the stupid shield instead but I am one for at least trying to farm the item for my character. I think anet is getting lame on all teh restrictions and suck drops. Also beat factions with 4 characters, have every skill in the game including all elites and so far only 3 greens. I remeber with sf I could get 3 greens in a day. Anyways I am not happy with whats going on.

floplag · May 28, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

i for one dont beleive ANY part of the map should be soloable... but thats me

i play these games online to play with others ... if i wanted to play by myslef id play local without the online.

i just dont get the appeal of the solo everything mentality. the only root of it i see, is greed. if you solo you get all the loot... i get that, as i said, greed

2 man teams, 3 man teams, etc... the game wasdesigned for up to 8 and we should need 8 to complete the most elite reas of the map, period

im sure ill get flamed alot more than the OP, but it wont change my mind so enjoy it

Taurus · May 28, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

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Originally Posted by floplag

i for one dont beleive ANY part of the map should be soloable... but thats me

i play these games online to play with others ... if i wanted to play by myslef id play local without the online.

i just dont get the appeal of the solo everything mentality. the only root of it i see, is greed. if you solo you get all the loot... i get that, as i said, greed

2 man teams, 3 man teams, etc... the game wasdesigned for up to 8 and we should need 8 to complete the most elite reas of the map, period

im sure ill get flamed alot more than the OP, but it wont change my mind so enjoy it

Agreed, If you wanna play solo play Oblivion.

dawnrain · May 28, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34

If farming's your thing, more power to you.

But don't you think the area is "broken" or poorly designed, if the intent is to be a challenging experience for a group of 8 lvl 20 characters and the reality is that it can be "soloed" by one lvl 20 character?

Fred Kiwi · May 28, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34

1000 is a small proportion of all the botters

Eolithic Monk · May 28, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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The only reason you keep playing the game is to farm? Wow...

And, not even going into detail about the anti-Farming code, but maybe they keep doing this cause it's called Guild Wars, not Farm Wars.

I know, call me crazy... how can I say such insane blasphemy? The world may never know...

Ok.. I surely don't have to explain myself to anyone. 1st of all, I do plenty of HOH and GVG and PVP etc, I have a rank 7 account. Secondly I farm for our guild.. Perhaps you should try supporting your guild and not flame other people for ammusment. However, I would expect that from a juvenile.

Eolithic Monk · May 28, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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They need to make 55 entirely unplayable. 55 Monk never should have been makeable in the first place. The only reason it was creatable was because of an idiotic bug left in the game - the bonuses for runes don't stack, but the negative effects do. Monks do not have enough attribute lines to use enough different runes to get to 55, but they do if they double up on a single rune, doubling up it's negative effects. Bug.

lmfao you are entirely wrong.. don't speak.

vinegrower · May 28, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

1000 is a small proportion of all the botters

you have some for of facts that show how many botters are out there? If so, maybe you should share it with ArenaNet so they can ban all of them.

J3mo · May 28, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by Replicant

I Completly agree with Eolithic Monk, I've been very upset with how Anet punishes everyone because of botters. Insted of banning botters accounts and actually making an effort to stop it they just nerf the farming place.. then the botters just find something else to farm. ban the botters and stop screwing up my and my guilds fun by nerfing everyone.

Ban the Botters, and Leave the people that farm legit alone.

yea hes right, everything what is a bit profitable gets nerfed

Young Hero · May 28, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

I love farming, its what keeps me playing.

I agree with thread starter,stop nerfing.

I dont want your horrible henchies tagging along with me.I dont want a noob group of "real players".

So 1000 accounts were banned, 100 accounts were banned what 4months ago.Thats 1100 third party program uses gone,[maybe more not sure] big freaking deal!Take care or the REAL problem-botters.You know there's 10,000 at least using programs to farm while the player is AFK.

Iam tired of taking the heat for something someone else does-Iam not quilty of breaking any rules, dont punish me for what We Won is doing with his army of Mo/W's

volfield · May 28, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

If the negative effects of a rune are stackable with a rune of the same attribute, logically so should the positive effects.

Eolithic Monk · May 28, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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If the negative effects of a rune are stackable with a rune of the same attribute, logically so should the positive effects.

NOTHING in life is logically "correct" as you put it. It's all proven "thoeries" by human beings. What makes them correct?

Maria The Princess · May 28, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Anet made so much succes with GW mostly for the games versatility. so there should be areas soloable, 55able, not soloable AT ALL, challenging, easy, whatever to keep people with diffrent interests staying online.

taking away the option of soloing and getting rich = forcing 50% of players to go play WOW or something...

honestly, i dont farm alot, i dont have time to. but when something new and that i want comes out, or i just want something new, i dont want to spend 2 weeks collecting pennies dropped by hydras... i want to have the option of getting it whithin few hours of intense farming, cuz otherwise its just boring and unpleasant to spend hours casting prot spirit+flame burst, to get...pfff

i just dont have time to do it, and even if i had... C'mon!

just because bots are screwing everything up, my game has to get more boring.

more farming = more boredom
less time farming= get item/rmorr/whatever faster= fun game

honesly, i dont paly i vid game to be bored, i rather wach tv then.. i hate getting punished because some1 elese is cheating, and notice, 1 night of 55ing, the boter still wakes up to 100k in inventory.

De-Nurf!!!

P-S: im a 55 ele, and i have 5 attribute lines. so im not vry scared of -hp rune bug getting fixed... technicly all the invinci monks will become invinci eles, and honesly, i had a 55 monk, and let me tell ya, ele takes down mobs much faster

Opeth11 · May 28, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

ele takes down mobs much faster

*makes an Ele*

Maria The Princess · May 28, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by Opeth11

*makes an Ele*

my build

flame burst (recharge 5 secs, deals 113dmg)
fire ball (recharge 10 secs, same dmg)
fire attunment
Aura of restauration (like monks divine favor)
and all the rst of te 55 stuff

dgb · May 28, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

They need to make 55 entirely unplayable. 55 Monk never should have been makeable in the first place. The only reason it was creatable was because of an idiotic bug left in the game - the bonuses for runes don't stack, but the negative effects do. Monks do not have enough attribute lines to use enough different runes to get to 55, but they do if they double up on a single rune, doubling up it's negative effects. Bug.

Because if they do that, you'll just get a bunch of 55 elementalists running around.

Replicant · May 28, 2006, 07:11 AM // 07:11

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Originally Posted by Opeth11

Well, I can imagine the mindset of the common farmer.

1. The money makes you feel like you could buy anything.
2. The missions can get boring after you've done them 4+ times.
3. PvE just gets boring, and the groups frustrates the player.
4. PvP doesn't interest the player.

And most importantly,

Games are meant for entertainment.

If a person feels that increasing the amount of gold and items that they have is fun and entertaining, why take it away? Why have a something that's doable in the game and not allow it to happen anymore?

Once again, that's just what I imagine what a common farmer thinks. The points are not necessarily of my beliefs.

Completly Correct

I have done pretty much every type of farming build from Solo to 5man Sorrows Furnace to 8 man B/P ToPK with all Guildies in all the builds because it's fun to do something as a guild group to help eachother out and talk in general with eachother on Ventrilo/TeamSpeak.

Not all Guild Wars players enjoy PvP, I personally hate every aspect of it and find 99% of the PvP'ers completly rude and immature.

but unlike the PvP hardcore people out there, my guild and I are 95% PvE we enjoy farming until the places we like to farm get nerfed. We farm to help eachother out, not too see how big our wallets can get.