Jun 04, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40
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#1
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: [HiDE]
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Starting New Characters In This Day and Age
Story Time Kidos.
When I got home from a rainy day of mall shopping in June 05 I hurried up stairs and popped in the Guild Wars installation disc and started one of the most addictive habits I have ever had. My very first character was a dorky looking monk named Random Acces Memory. I played until I got to post sear ascalon then I feel out of the scene for about 2 months. Until I met someone who got me back into the game with stories of his Me/E kicking ass and taking names.
I returned to my addiction and started a fresh new character. An elementalist named Three Two One Go, and I got him a little further than Random, but then I stopped again. I soon went threw a slue of new characters, none getting out of post sear ascalon before they were stripped bear and deleted.
Finally one day I sat down and decided to start a necromancer named Paget Marrow. I loved him and I took him all the way to the Fire Islands before I got stuck on the first mission.
Soon after, putting Paget aside for a moment, I created a monk named Schae the Abbot. I made no mistakes with Schae and I cleared every mission and quest in each area before moving on and by the time factions was released I had but 3 quests left in the Southern Shiverpeaks to finish (never did them) Schae still stands as my main character and most loved GW hero. Paget was later deleted due to me skipping a lot of quests and bonuses I didn't want to go through.
Now onto my point
In playing so much with a monk and being in so many groups, I have gotten to know how all of the other classes work and I have tried many times to create another character of a different class. So far I have only managed to create a Canthan born Ranger with whom I blasted through the Factions campaign (mainly to get the 15k Canthan armor at the end of the game). But other than him, I have not been able to play with any new characters past Ascension in the Factions campaign before I lose interest and I sure as hell don't want to dredge through the Prophecies campaign again so my question is this.
Has anyone else found it hard to keep interest in a new class after playing another for so long?
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Jun 04, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11
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#2
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In a box
Guild: The Living Hell Pheonix
Profession: Mo/Me
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If you aren't one of those people who buy a game, beat it in 1 day and never touch it again, you should be entertained by the 6 core classes and the 2 Factions classes.
Theres so much variety, and so many ways to work things out (Mesmer Necromancer who fast casts minions, albiet weak ones. Ranger Necromancer who uses blood magic to cause weakness to the enemy via Enfeebling Blood, and then hit them hard with barrage and Power Shot, ect.) And making the game that much funner.
And besides, It cost about $50, don't waste it :P
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Jun 04, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51
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#3
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Ascalonian Squire
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I don't find the PvE campaign worth playing through more than once, and I'm not sure about keeping interest in a class, but I do know when a certain class's playstyle doesn't appeal to me. A few for example are Warriors, Necromancers, and Elementalists. My favorites are Ranger and Mesmer and I'm currently playing around with an Assassin which I'm undecided about. I know each class has their little nuances, so I'm being very general in the following descriptions of why I didn't like a profession:
My very first character was a Warrior who never got past pre-searing...it was just boring for me sitting there watching him auto-attack and waiting for adrenaline skills to light up. I've tried a couple of wars in PvP but still have that same feeling.
Second character was a monk who I finished Prophecies with. Very engaging but at times very stressful...esp PvP where you easily get blamed and yelled at for your team losing. I did like having to micro the red bars and keep them up and still play my monk from time to time.
Third, was a ranger who I fell in love with. Versatile strategy, wide variety of attacks and skills, and cool looking armor and dances to boot. Mesmer was next class I liked...esp for PvP with all the mayhem you can cause. Fun putting hexes on "dumb" computer AI, even better against human opponents.
I tried going through the game as an Elementalist and Necro just to unlock their skills but they didn't appeal to me. Elementalist seemed kind of like a reverse Warrior where instead of waiting for adrenaline to build to unload your big attacks, you start off with being able to unload your big attacks, then you wait for energy to regenerate. I didn't have the "discipline" required for being a good necro where you have to balance causing yourself and your enemy harm at the same time.
I just bought Factions recently and I'm messing around with the Assassin...seems cool so far...go in, do your damage combo, fallback.
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Jun 04, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26
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#4
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Aequitas Deis
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i actualyy enjoyed pve
maby you should try pvp.
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Jun 04, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London
Guild: Organised Spam (OS)
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What i've done is.. only completed half the game with one character. Monk has done the luxons side, Ele will do Kurzick side >.> .
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Jun 04, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07
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#6
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Imperial Fist
Profession: Mo/Me
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The answer to being bored about doing pve over and over again is PvP. It is different every time you play, and in my opinion(we are stressing opinion here people) is more fun.
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Jun 04, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35
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#7
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses
Guild: Boston Guild [BG]
Profession: R/W
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Oddly, I've had troubles with new characters as well.
I tried for a month to make a new character before the release of Factions. I must have tried 10 times to make a new character, and I'd only get to about Ashford Abbey before becoming extremely bored and giving up. I'm not like that, normally, so I was wondering if maybe I had outgrown Pre-Searing or something. I tried again anyway, making a Female Elementalist again (Note: Not for the dance, you perverts), but I didn't think it would last either. On a random chance, I got hooked up with another player for one quest, and we ranged around for a bit before I had to leave. That character made it out of pre and all the way to the Shiverpeaks before I deleted her in favor of a Factions look.
I've determined that this game is approximately 300% more fun with players, even random PUGs and complete strangers, than it is solo. Because of this, I now understand why I've had fun with the game for so long. It's because of the people I'm playing with, not the character that I happened to be playing.
Anymore, I do my best to play with people rather than Henchies, unless i"m doing something so specific that I don't think a random PUG would understand ("Yeah, to the edge of the map so I can take a picture of nothing").
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Jun 05, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42
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#8
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: in the midline
Profession: E/Mo
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If you rush though without reading dialogs, enjoying the humor that the devs put in, the landscape so meticulously designed, or watching the movies that explain the storyline ...it will be boring.
That is why when I go through with a second character it is still enjoyable, I sometimes miss some bits and pieces of the story the first time around.
P.S. Playing with henches is faster but way more boring.
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Jun 05, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29
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#9
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Take me where I cannot stand.
Guild: The Better Part of Valor
Profession: W/N
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The trick is this: If you've already played through a campaign once for the story and you want more replayability, set a goal before you make another character.
Goals that I've found fun to go for are:
- strive to acheive a difficult title with your new character. Legendary Survivor, Grandmaster Cartographer, etc, etc.
- Look on the Forums at all the new skined weapons, armor, shields and offhand items. Decide exactly how you want your character to look before you make him/her, and then make progress developing that appearance.
- If you're doing the prophecies campaign, try to become the richest person in Pre-searing. Pre-searing has almost a completely separate economy from post-searing, so things can be a little different.
You'll find quite a bit more fun in the game playing different characters and you won't even care about the story-line. Try it.
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Jun 05, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Francisco native
Profession: Mo/P
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I'm not a PvP person so I imagine the game will lose appeal to me once I finish PvE. That said it does seem logical that once you finish the PvE once, you can just build level 20 PvP characters to start and play PvP - as long as you can enjoy that kind of play.
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Jun 05, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49
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#11
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: One of Many [ONE]
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Personally I've gone through quite a few characters. Though here recently I've been much more stable with them
For me if I chose to play an elementalist, ranger, mesmer, or any other profession I got bored. The only two that made it past the desert (most died in Kryta) was a wammo and a smiting monk - the smiting monk mostly died with the AoE AI change (well, she's still there, too close to a mini-pet. Was hopeing that Factions would rebirth the smiter).
I finally realised that, personally, when I played a profession I tended to be unfocused. The wammo was an axe solo farmer and the monk a smiter. They were thier jobs (farmer, smiter) first and professions later. Their secondary, skills, and atttributes changed a lot also. Later I decided to play a nuker, minion master, and a trapper. I've had much more fun, more focused (especially true with the trapper - my old rangers shifted constantly). I've got an open slot still - right now an Assassin but I don't think I'm gonna like it. It's role is a combination and I'm not liking it too much.
As of right now each role I've chosen has a different profession so it appears as if that was my reasoning - it wasn't. Most likely there will be another role catches my eye and I'll duplicate a profession. Each char is thier role, not profession.
For me this also added the RP aspect, the main part I was missing. To play an "elementalist" wasn't fun - she wasn't real, just a min/maxed set of skills I clicked on. To play a fire nuker with earth spells is fun (most of the fire spells are centered on my caster so I need the earth line) - even if it isn't the most effective. Of course, this limits me to henchies and friends for many builds - said ele build being one. Sometimes I do use standard builds - but it is rare.
Don't know how you like to play, but that is me.
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Jun 05, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: London
Guild: Diary of a Madman [SiKK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcady
I'm not a PvP person so I imagine the game will lose appeal to me once I finish PvE. That said it does seem logical that once you finish the PvE once, you can just build level 20 PvP characters to start and play PvP - as long as you can enjoy that kind of play.
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not playing PvE or not playing PvP, you are effectively halving the conent you are exposing yourself to.
Try it, you probably will like it. RA is annoying sometimes, but it can also become addictive.
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Jun 05, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42
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#13
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: maryland
Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF]
Profession: R/
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My very first character was an elementalist, got bored of him and made a ranger.
My ranger now has the most hours, and time spent on her with 7 Mill XP 324 skill points.
Made a Monk with a friend, got bored and deleted her, and told myself only use a monk on PVP slot.
Made an necro for SS and MM, got bored, now a mule.
Made a Warrior finished Cantha with him and now he's a mule.
Made an Assassin got bored with him, deleted him, and made a monk.
My monk, new favorite character , using her for GVG and Elite missions. Ironic in the end I prefer a monk after not wanting to use one in the beginning.
Mesmers, Assassins, for PVP slot, also thinking as a maybe using the PVP slot as a PVE Rit.
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Jun 05, 2006, 02:04 PM // 14:04
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#14
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Forge Runner
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Sounds like you just don't enjoy some classes. Nothing new, everyone has it. I personally can't stand playing PvE with an Elementalist, and I can't stand playing Necromancer at all.
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Jun 05, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32
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Wow Stole my freetime
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Arkansas
Guild: None
Profession: W/E
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this is a fun thread
Ok heres my story. made an ele/monk on my freinds acount. That was so much fun.
So i bought the game, made a new ele/monk and played him tell yaks bend.
Got kinda bored with getting killed and made a war/ranger,(thinking i would become a droks runner and make money). played him thro pre, stayed in pre tell i had a whole inventory of charr purples and stuff lvl 11 i think, got out of pre. Quested to grenditch courthouse, was in ascalon city one day, guy was saying free run to yaks, i had been there before so i joined his group. he ended up running me to beacons and gates of krta, I told him i had to leave, he said just leave your computer on, i will take this whole group as far as i can. When i woke up the next morning i was in Dunes...
lol, so i began to play the warrior and deleted the ele, ended up beating chap 1 with him.
later made a monk for 55 farming.(still needed money) borrowed the gold for the runes, made the 55 build and now thats my favorite guy.(1 million xp in 6 months)(i allso run bonder, and healer, beat factions with this guy)
i allso have 2 eles now, 2 rangers(needed a new one for the endgame cantha bow i got)and 2 necros. the reason i have 2 of each is my wife is playing a warrior on my second account and i cant use the ranger lvl 12, necro lvl 9, and ele lvl 8 much on there. so i am about to lvl 20 with my now 3rd ele, and this time i will finish him. got a open space on both acounts for pvp as well..........me likes the touch ranger at the moment. I allso in these 8 months since getting guilds wars have avaraged about 4 hours a day playing time, and now lead a guild of about 25 in a huge luxon alliance.
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Jun 05, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59
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#16
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: :P
Profession: E/Me
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I will always stick to my elemental. I have tryed all the other classies but my elemental still rocks.
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Jun 05, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03
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#17
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Currently guildless
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Started with a Warrior/Ranger, wanting to duplicate the fun i had about 2 years ago playing a beastmaster in EQ. Smash Flat is still my primary character but I also have a MM necro and a ritualist who just finished Factions.
Started a PvP monk and hated it (before i even enjoyed pvp though), started a female necro before my current necro and hated it. I think playing one character a lot definitely gets you in the mode of that profession, making it harder to change habits. Its hard to general some minions after playing my Warrior for an hour or two and smashing my way through everything.
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Jun 05, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19
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#18
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: PA
Guild: Us Are Not [leet]
Profession: W/
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I started out as a W/R thinking I would be able to do tons of damage since I would have a pet, I was really mad when I found out how little damage the pet does. I then deleted him and made a W/ME and unlocked all secondarys and beat the game with him.
I made a ME/E and deleted him after I beat the game.
I made a MO/E and deleted him after I beat the game with all bonuses completed.
I now sometimes play on my Necro that is still over in tyria because I don't want to do all of the missions and primary quests all over again.
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Jun 05, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23
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#19
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California
Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare]
Profession: W/Mo
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I started off with a W/E and beat the game with him. Got around 2 mill exp and most of the skills for him. Still using him at this time.
Made a mesmer after i beat the game, use her till i got bored of beating THK. Haven't touch her since.
Made a elementlist but around that time the AoE nerf happened and i use her as a mule now. But with factions being release, started to use her more. Right now i'm in Yak Bend with her.
Made a Necro, brought her all the way to the desert and haven't beat my dopple yet. Nor got her infused. Will try and actually get her to infused than maybe bring her over to Cantha.
As for factions.. i made an assassin and still at the last mission in the island. Than just recently made a monk.
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Jun 05, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43
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#20
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Worthing, UK
Guild: (Don't fear) The Beaver
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If I could (don't have the spare character slots ) I'd make a new character and just chill in pre-searing Ascalon all the time. By far my favourite area of the game.
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