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dreamhunk · Jul 07, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

here take good look the same program as guild wars!

http://www.plaync.com/us/games/aion/videos.html

Lets Get to Healing · Jul 07, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!

Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps!

Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really!

there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well.

2 mil+ sells in a year? You have NO idead what your talking about. BTW, i can tell english isnt your first language, and if it is, may god have mercy on you.

dreamhunk · Jul 07, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing

2 mil+ sells in a year? You have NO idead what your talking about. BTW, i can tell english isnt your first language, and if it is, may god have mercy on you.

must of if was because of the first chapter!

if not all

GloryFox · Jul 07, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Please Please Please No Jumping.... I Do Not Want To Begin Playing Mario Brothers....

Gorebrex · Jul 07, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by ShadowStorm

Why no jumping in towns?

Also, if they do implement jumping, I wonder how well they'll implement it. Will it just be a basic up and down jump? Will you be able to jump while running? If you're on higher ground than another game entity, whether it be friend or foe, would you be allowed to jump over them? What about jumping from walls to gain extra height? Would you be able to change direction mid-jump?
I think it'd be interesting.

1.Probably not
2.Id think so, to allow for jumping obstacles while fleeing an opponent.
3.Possibly, but Id guess not from same level
4.Wouldnt gain much, and would have to be pretty close to a higher level destination to reach it
5.Id say no, too arcadey, jumping in one direction alone would be fine

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Originally Posted by semantic

or how about they introduce tackling at the same time, as in, you run into someone at full speed and you both go down

Someone make an American Football mod! WOOOOOOT! lol

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Originally Posted by Denshoni

Adding jumping would be too much of a hassle. It really isn't necessary in the least. Say jumping is incorporated in the future releases. What about people playing on previous releases? And what about collision detection with other players/monsters/areas from the older maps?

Massive overhaul on the game engine. Do you know how much trouble there is to be had to with this? Not to mention the time it will take, which is time that should be spent focusing on existing problems than just the implementaion of an irrevalent feature.

1-2.No, but it sure as hell would help!
3-5.Its a game engine change, so all would get it.
6-7. No, not really, theres already the animation, they just need to make it work while running, instead of having your character stop when you use /jump.
8.I hope you dont think ANet's gonna drop everything theyre doing now to work on jumping, thats not how its done AFAIK. I think that they continue with what improvements they currently working on, and are just deciding things like have been asked(Will it just be a basic up and down jump? Will you be able to jump while running? If you're on higher ground than another game entity, whether it be friend or foe, would you be allowed to jump over them? What about jumping from walls to gain extra height? Would you be able to change direction mid-jump?), then look at maps, see how jumping changes accessability of various areas they think may cause balance/difficulty problems(if area can be accessed by jumping, will it reduce difficulty in that section more than they believe is acceptable?
I mentioned it would be nice to have jumping to escape enemies(by leaping fence, for example) when I first started playing. Glad to see something happening with it.

Vahn Roi · Jul 07, 2006, 05:04 PM // 17:04

What, in this game, requires or would be easier to do if the player could jump?

Nothing.

Paul_Bunyan · Jul 07, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

Jumping would just plain cool to incoperate in GW. When I first started playing I was very miffed to learn that there was no jumping (basically). I would LOVE to have more environmental freedom on the maps, being able to jump over smaller obstacles (like half the average character height or somthing), and to be able to scale mountains and jump off cliffs and ridges, etc., without having to backtrack for 5 minutes to get down a 3 foot incline, and to be able to do "stunts" and the like, that would be awesome.

I assume there would be pretty realistic mechanics integrated for these jumps, but you would still be able to have tons more freedom and have much more in PvE, I think.

The engine would have to be reworked to have a true z-axis, but it would be certainly worth it.

Dragonheart · Jul 07, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

i say, absolutely NO JUMPING! that would be totally lame. i've seen WOW (im scarred for life now) and its pretty annoying watching everybody soar through the air...

Juicey Shake · Jul 07, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

jumping would be nice.. would make me feel more at home with my fps roots :P..

+ running places would be so much cooler, take 4 minutes to go around a huge obstacle or climb over it.. not being limited by the terrain's edges would be really nice

dreamhunk · Jul 07, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

threre should

jumping
climbing
swiming
jumping inthis game!

I said it from day one in beta! I agin going say it agin!

RPG player like to explore they need and like freedom!

exiled mat · Jul 07, 2006, 10:05 PM // 22:05

/jump ftw :P

you can jump, but you don't get anywhere with it XD

mqstout · Jul 07, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

No jumping/swimming, etc, please. Having natural terrain boundaries helps them to be able to make better maps (and better quest control, by knowing where/where not a player can go much more easily). Removing the clipping on bushes would be quite nice, though.

Mr_T_bot · Jul 07, 2006, 10:18 PM // 22:18

We don't so much need jumping so much as a working z-Acis and an overhauled collision detection system.

Gorebrex · Jul 07, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

i say, absolutely NO JUMPING! that would be totally lame. i've seen WOW (im scarred for life now) and its pretty annoying watching everybody soar through the air...

WHY do people always bring up WoW? How about BF2, with its bunnyhopping problems? And Mario Brothers! WTF?! Jumping alone, does NOT make it either of those. Im SURE ANet wont make it the "WoW I jumped over your head!", nor will we hear midi sound effects when we jump. Ive said above how I think it will go, and think its a fairly reasonable assumption.

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Originally Posted by mqstout

No jumping/swimming, etc, please. Having natural terrain boundaries helps them to be able to make better maps (and better quest control, by knowing where/where not a player can go much more easily). Removing the clipping on bushes would be quite nice, though.

Not really, there ARE hills too steep/cliffs that cant be climbed, Scale in the water(more dangerous versions in deeper waters), and what makes it easier is that its so limited. Manys the time I wanted to jump down about 3 feet because of the "cliff edge boundary", where you walk too close to side of mountain or something, and get caught in a dead end, having to turn around and walk bac, instead of hopping down the 3 feet to where you wanted to go.

mqstout · Jul 07, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

We don't so much need jumping so much as a working z-Acis and an overhauled collision detection system.

I'll go for that. No more warriors under the bridge killing guys on the bridge.

Tingi · Jul 07, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

No jumping! On the other hand...swimming would be so cool! lol I would love to do that!

Hyper Cutter · Jul 07, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick

maybe people finally had enough when they were cut off from Mhenlo by a pile of rubble that didn't even clear chest-height

And then that idiot had the audacity to say "I'm trapped on the outside" right afterwards!

echo envitas · Jul 07, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

I'm always so suprised at how close-minded much of the GW community can be about new ideas, especially those that don't affect PVP directly. That doesn't go for everyone of course.
Anyway, I would LOVE jumping; it really adds a sense of freedom to the game that is hard to put into words. Its also another reason why many people won't play/quit this game, and frankly I'm all for doing anything to ensure that GW has a looong life.

Andy_M · Jul 07, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

What next swimming and cliff diving ?

Hang on.....

TheOneMephisto · Jul 08, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

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Originally Posted by echo envitas

I'm always so suprised at how close-minded much of the GW community can be about new ideas, especially those that don't affect PVP directly. That doesn't go for everyone of course.
Anyway, I would LOVE jumping; it really adds a sense of freedom to the game that is hard to put into words. Its also another reason why many people won't play/quit this game, and frankly I'm all for doing anything to ensure that GW has a looong life.

The reason is that it's such a hard idea to implement for such a little bit of new stuff. If they decided to make something that required a total overhaul of the game engine I hope that it would at least be worth it. Unfortunately, this just isn't worth the effort.