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Old Jul 08, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50   #21
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I'm in, and I have been for a while.

The logic here is if you can get one or two people a day to stop spamming the local chat with W.T.S. / W.T.B, then they might (just might) get one or two others to stop it as well.

ANet has made a concious effort to clean up the problem by filtering WTS/WTB, so personally, I find it rude to take the extra effort to type W TS and WT B just for the sake of ignoring the trade channel.

To Hidden in the Mist and Opeth11 yes! The fact that the names and the message are displayed in the same color makes it hard to tell where one message ends and the other begins, much less deciphering the names attached to them (who knows, that may be why most use the local chat now... Yellow Names: White Text, it's easier to read) So to expand, maybe the "trade" names should display in Black: WTS filters to Red text, WTB Filters to Gold Text (ha! Gold... get it? )

In the meantime, I'll keep trying to convince people that using local chat for trade is "uncool" and will make you a social outcast, forcing you into slave work, crafting shoes for Nike at $0.12 / hour; to pay the child-support that goes to your ex-wife who left you for a rich, younger, better looking Doctor named Bob... ya that seems to work .
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #22
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That 20% reduction rate of spammers is a bunch of bull. You're telling me that you got a fifth of the allchat spammers in a busy district, say Kaineng dist 1, to cowtow to YOU, even though they are constantly being barraged by people asking them to use the trade chat? Not happening.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03   #23
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One point, some districts are "trade districts" (Lion's Arch D1). I have no problem with local chat spamming in those districts, since their existence is good for the community. I see this as drinking in a bar: if you are going to drink at least you are doing it in the right location.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11   #24
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Spam is a minor annoyance at most. I'm sure you can find something more constructive to do with your time other than lecturing others for using the wrong chat channel.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 07:13 PM // 19:13   #25
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That 20% reduction rate of spammers is a bunch of bull. You're telling me that you got a fifth of the allchat spammers in a busy district, say Kaineng dist 1, to cowtow to YOU, even though they are constantly being barraged by people asking them to use the trade chat? Not happening.
Im sorry i probably was too tired when I explained. 20% of all people that responded to my tells.. It takes a certain bit of an ear just to respond.. And I got about 20% of those people to quit it.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19   #26
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Avoid large districts when possible. LA Dist 1 for instance.

Learn to work the check marks on the chat window.

I have never really had a problem. If the spam is to much generally theres enough people to have a second district open and thats where you can find me.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20   #27
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On occasion I try to tell people not to post trades in 'all' but it always ends with me getting flamed, the other day I was told to "go and die" *sigh*

I fail to see why people can't just post it in 'trade' since people that wanna buy probably would look there.

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One point, some districts are "trade districts" (Lion's Arch D1). I have no problem with local chat spamming in those districts, since their existence is good for the community. I see this as drinking in a bar: if you are going to drink at least you are doing it in the right location.
There's still a trade channel in dist 1 why not use that?
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #28
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hey at least its good to see other people are trying to do soemthing against these spammers.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #29
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Avoid large districts when possible. LA Dist 1 for instance.

Learn to work the check marks on the chat window.

I have never really had a problem. If the spam is to much generally theres enough people to have a second district open and thats where you can find me.
So I should avoid portions of the game because others can't follow labled channels? Interesting.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33   #30
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Why only America? Spam Europe, Spam Asia, Spam Australlia server.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #31
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I too don't like the trade spam on all chat. Not only does it make grouping harder, also valid questions are not being seen.

I make a point of switching off trade channel unless I want to trade, but I try to keep all channel open for any questions that fly by. I'm sorry to say that asking how to get to Cantha (a real common question in LA) in LA dis 1 will not get you the same odds to an answer as asking it in another district.

I can understand people wanting to sell their stuff, and if you don't know about trade channel yet (I too have explained its uses to would be trade spammers) I can forget that. The spammers numbering their sale spam, or adjusting the amount of exclamation marks get to my ignore list if it's only a few - otherwise my all chat goes off.

I make a point of not trading with those spamming in all chat, and I will happily explain spammers the use of trade channel. Lets make sure people can ask their questions on all channel, and be seen by the knowledgeable players that no longer need/want to switch their all channels off because of all the spam.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41   #32
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Im sorry i probably was too tired when I explained. 20% of all people that responded to my tells.. It takes a certain bit of an ear just to respond.. And I got about 20% of those people to quit it.
Ah, alright, that's a bit more believable. What percentage of those were just cursing you out though, or telling you to STFU N00B! I'm guessing rather high.

Also, I don't see not going to LA, Kaineng, Ascalon City, or Droknars dist 1 as "avoiding a part of the game". They're trade cities, that's it; no one's looking to party up for quests there. There is nothing to do there that you can't do in another district, except trade. Therefore, if you don't want to trade and/or don't want to see trade spam in allchat, it's only sensible to avoid those districts. Think of it like this, if you hate the bickering in the Random Arena town, it'd be silly to go there unless you actually intended on playing in the arena. Bit of a stretch for a comparison, but I think it works.
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Old Jul 08, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49   #33
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OP man you are going to have your nads in a sling.... However my guild will be doing something similar in the future in Ascalon. But we will be there to dirrect newbs and teach them some basics they might have missed. Along with that, maybe stop some all around bad behavior/report it. You however are touching on a whole new subject and while I commend you... I fear for your life -_o;;;; Date and time?

(Me and a guildie have already been volunteered for D1 of Ascalon for our plan... Best place to yell at the WTB/WTS spammers I suppose >_<)

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Old Jul 09, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50   #34
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OP man you are going to have your nads in a sling.... However my guild will be doing something similar in the future in Ascalon. But we will be there to dirrect newbs and teach them some basics they might have missed. Along with that, maybe stop some all around bad behavior/report it. You however are touching on a whole new subject and while I commend you... I fear for your life -_o;;;; Date and time?

(Me and a guildie have already been volunteered for D1 of Ascalon for our plan... Best place to yell at the WTB/WTS spammers I suppose >_<)
I dont care if I dont make any friends doing this. Im just trying to make a voice. Just because you don't like what Im doing doesn't mean Ill stop. I dont spam, I say it once nicely to a person and Im done. Also it doesnt really need a date or time. Just whenever it is convenient.
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36   #35
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I find your character's name ironic (Hero Spammer).
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #36
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(Err I fail at logging out, this is Eviance who previously posted.... My husband's laptop not being logged out and all >_<)

Sorry dear, my post wasn't meant to be disrespectful, I just think it's going to be a real challenge and a half. And I didn't think you were going to spam (I did read your other posts for the most part.)

Anyways maybe I will run into you in a district somewhere along the way. GL!

AYAIE!

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Old Jul 09, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27   #37
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to the OP more power to you.. if ppl think this isnt constructive so be it.. im with you 100%. it takes someone to stand up for what they think is right whether anyone else does or not.there is a resone for a TRADE channel and a CHAT channel. not everyone has to agree thats what makes this game great everyone can have a voice. if one persone sticks up for what they think is right more will join. do the right thing not because you have to but you can.
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Old Jul 10, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42   #38
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Well whenever I buy stuff I turn off all other distracting trades except for trade and team (when I team up with them to trade). If you're busy spamming in local you're just missing the opportunity of actual buyers and traders, I really don't know why anyone does it in the first place. :/
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Old Jul 10, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20   #39
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I was in LA district 1 (Euro English 1) during the day and I got some (didn't stay for long, I had things to do) people to use trade chat. None of the people I whispered (politely) responded negatively, most semed to figure it out.

One person actually started questioning me in ALL chat and was told by others that their spamming was annoying.

I of course didn't get a very good "sampling" of people, as I only spent about 5 minutes on "clean up" duty, in a rather calm district (most people were using trade chat).
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Old Jul 10, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02   #40
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Constructive conversation is great and certainly has it's place. But I prefer just telling the All Channel WTSers to STFU and use the gd trade channel. Why? They're not stupid... they know trade channel is there. They know what it's for. I keep my trade and emote channel turned off for a reason. You want to sell me a max godly hammer? I want to sell you a clue... use the damn trade channel.


Still though OP, good luck. If Say it forward didn't sound so gay, I'd give it a try. We're at least working towards the same thing. It's like the Empire and Rebellion working together to fight crime or something.
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