Curse

Pelias · Jul 24, 2005, 09:22 PM // 21:22

I totally doesn't buy this.
cut your profit by 70%, to save few seconds to sell items to NPC when you're rezoning, to make it more inventory effective?
Sorry, that's an advice usable only by a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bot users.
Bot can go killing for days, so why bother with maintaince each hour, when you cna do it once time a day.

Oh, and I just made 80k profit of trading single item.

Beowulf545 · Jul 27, 2005, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Theres one thing that I don't get about the Rune Trader... she doesn't sell superior vigor runes... I doubt that its because so many people are buying because I havn't seen a superior vigor rune being sold for like 2 weeks. Think it could maybe be a glitch from the new trading sequence when you sell or buy from a merchant or trader?
Also, they should send out a new update where like the price for dye or runes couldn't go below a certain amount of gold if you were to sell it... because 1g is just so wrong to sell a black dye to the trader, yet it cost 10k to buy. So there's no chance that you'll sell it for 8k because people know that the price will go down... but even if it does, the 1g to sell would probably be the same. Black dye should be 1.5k gold at least to sell it to the trader. Silver dye was worth 1g today to sell it.
It's so hard to believe that a purp or green or orange or yellow dye could get you more gold than a black dye could. Its really messed up.
They are starting to make the game horrable... almost as if they want to make it terrible so that when the expansion pack comes out more people will want it because they would hope that it would make everything better...
Also, for the expansion pack, it would be aswome if they added a new class like an Assassin who would do like martial arts and would be able to sneak around enemies easier than any other class could, and maybe could detect invisible guys (first they would have to make some... like a Ghost or something for necromancer that could be seen but it would be extremely hard to see it, it would be a super faint shimmer of the air, but the assassin would be able to see it clear as day or something. Or maybe an Assassin could have a cool elite skill that has a 10% chance to work and cost 10 energy and if it worked, the assassin would jump on the shoulders of the enemy and twist their head around sharply... I don't know, jsut a thought.... but admit it! it would be cool to be an assassin!!!

lol

aismailuk · Jul 27, 2005, 08:23 AM // 08:23

I am a ranger/warrior and have found that making money just seems to be a case of patience. I totally agree with Xue Li Yiangs methods and after reading this post, decided to give it a try. The only difference I had was taking about 4/5 standard salvage kits and 1/2 expert salvage kits (mainly due to having limited funds to start with!). Just selling some tanned hide squares and other common crafting materials after a while netted me about 2k!

As yet, I am still working through the PvE game, so am not dedicated to making money. I think that perseverance and patience will get you everywhere in this game. As I am doing the missions, I just salvage any weapons which are standard drops giving the essential materials for selling at a later date.

I have so far found the key to not spending all your money is to visit the Xunlai agent whenever you have built up a fair amount of cash and just deposit most of it so there is no temptation to spend it! (it also means that you aren't constantly looking at your gold supply in your inventory......."a watched pot never boils etc,etc!")

So, basically, despite all the nerf posts I think that it is fairly easy to make your money and truly enjoy the game as long as you have patience.

And one more point...as long as you choose the best skills and weapons for the ranger profession, you will find that Rangers are a formidable force in this game.

Xue Yi Liang · Jul 27, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by aismailuk

I have so far found the key to not spending all your money is to visit the Xunlai agent whenever you have built up a fair amount of cash and just deposit most of it so there is no temptation to spend it! (it also means that you aren't constantly looking at your gold supply in your inventory......."a watched pot never boils etc,etc!")

Yeah - I find that helps, very much.
In fact, keeping a personal rule not to make withdrawals - only deposits always keeps the cash flow positive. (Not to say I never broke that rule - but I did so with a degree of anguish, hesitation and guilt lol).

Nightseyes · Aug 02, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

OK this is my first post and im new here but...
Since i heard about farming i switched from just selling all of my drops to the trader to salvaging them and waiting for the prices to rocket. If you have the time and the patience then farming is probally for you however if ytou dont then i'd reccomend just selling everything u pick up unless its maxed or you can salvage a major rune from it.

kleps · Aug 02, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Nightseyes

OK this is my first post and im new here but...
Since i heard about farming i switched from just selling all of my drops to the trader to salvaging them and waiting for the prices to rocket. If you have the time and the patience then farming is probally for you however if ytou dont then i'd reccomend just selling everything u pick up unless its maxed or you can salvage a major rune from it.

you can make some $ by farming unided runes and selling them as well. there are always new people looking unlock runes for PvP.

Nikos Battlehammer · Aug 03, 2005, 02:01 AM // 02:01

With material trading, I've experienced that these are the most expensive common materials: tanned hides, cloth and iron ingots as they can go for more than 100 for 10pcs. The rest of the common crafting materials (bones, wood planks, shells) I rarely see go for more than 30 per 10pc.

What I like about salvaging for materials is that you have your own materials that you can use for your armor. You don't need to buy from the material traders or from other players. And when you consider the high price of buying materials, well that's just a lot of money you can save if you actually salvage them yourself.

I remember selling more than 200 pieces of wood planks to a single player at about 10g each. Sure that may not be a lot of gold, but in the end, that's worth more gold than selling the bows I salvaged to merchants.

Another benefit I get from salvaging materials is that I am able to pick more loot while I'm farming/exploring. Whenever I see an item that is not so interesting, I just salvage it then the materials will just stack, leaving me more space for better/higher priced items.

Nikos Battlehammer · Aug 03, 2005, 02:33 AM // 02:33

It has been mentioned in this thread that there are different ways of accumulating wealth:

1) salvaging and material trading
2) winning in HoH and selling sigils
3) casually playing the game
4) selling high priced items
5) being frugal and not buying the best items up front
6) not buying the 15k armors
7) others I may have failed to notice

With all these methods, I think the most important is for us to pick what suits our time and play style the best and which one enhances our game experience the most.

hobo13 · Aug 04, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

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Originally Posted by impkim92

you might argree with the HoH thing and all but that is not easy to win some ppl are gifted to win that and some arnt. And 30k a month is bad in a month i made about 250k and that is just over time and spending. farming is the key of making money today i have played the game for 3 hours and made about 190k so playing the game then betting it and only making 30k really isnt enough for all the stuff u need.

i think lost has a good point though, my eyes do feel like they are about to bleed lol! but its not all from farming, mostly just because i play fup to around 7 hours a day (i live on campus at a tech school in a small crappy town) anywho back to topic. farming has alot of luck and skill involved. the skill isnt in the game but in reality, i have the skill while my roomate doesnt. i will usually do a good 10-15 runs in one spot before i declare it is not as good as another spot. where as he will go to a spot, not get anything after 5runs and say its a crappy spot (the spot he says is crappy is my main spot too) the skill for farming is also known as deterination and patience. aka: you want it so your gonna take the time to get it.
the luck is in the drops, ive gotten 2 crystalline swords in the same weekend, that was around the 600 hour marker for me. another example would be that today i found a 4:1 vampiric string, a +5 insightful head, a black dye and a good 5k in just gold. i also just about doubled my crafting materials. where as yesterday i diddnt get crap, i had bad runs, and diddnt even get much crafting materials.
im sure if i took the time to use the trade channel for more of my items i would have alot more money too. last weekend i had 0 ecto and 60k, today i have 15 ecto and still have 30k. if you only have one farming spot you wont make much either (unless its like riverside before the nerfs or the divinity barrel) off the top of my head i have 2 spots the farm by killing, and 2 spots to farm chests and such. i get crafting items and a few good drops from enemies, but i get amazing drops from the chests. (2 crystalline, multiple rare items with super upgrades and the occasional item ill put in the trade channel)
another thing abtou farming is that you need to be able to find a new area. why? because your spot isnt gonna be there forever. just a few minutes ago i found that one of my favorite spots to kill in has been exposed and will either have an enemy setup change (add mesmers, necros or ranges to counter smiting) or a flat out nerf. so when i get tired of farming (which i do wuite often) but cant go the the UW or Fissure, i run around on my warrior. ive ran though just about everywhere up the the fire islands. if i can easily run through the area, then i will take my smiting build to it and see how it goes. from this i have found many possible spots, a very good area for silk and fur as well as a few other good things. so if you wanna be able to get your fisssure armor quick, then asking others for farming tips wont get you enough money.

Red Sonya · Aug 04, 2005, 05:52 AM // 05:52

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Originally Posted by wgregory87

You're not making money around yaks because you're a ranger and you don't have traps yet. Rangers are among the worst classes for solo farming before you get traps. Don't even try, you're wasting your time. Go level up and beat the game and then try to farm.

I'm a Mo/E20 (recently switched from Mo/W20) and I just started to farm like 2 days ago. I'm not having as much success but I do have a full inv of perfect upgrade items and the extra gold/purples that I'm left over with. I'm also not one to haggle or trade for hours, its a waste of time. Anyways I made about 15plat in about 3 hours of farming off common materials around my spot (only 2 - 3 types) and gold drops.

You're crazy my Ranger/Monk kicks but solo (lvl 15), with 12 regen hardly anything can touch me and I don't use any traps. With Divine Boon and a couple of self heals I can take on a bunch of mobs at once and if disenchanted 5 energy is nothing to regain and if I really want to have unlimited energy I just toss on Balthazar's Spirit as well and give up +3 Mending. I make 10k plat a day when I farm, money is easy and much like the origional poster I do the same things, materials bring in a chit load of cash if you wait until the market price is high and then unload it all in one big sale. I know a quest that nets 125gp a pop and takes about 2 minutes so figure that 30 times an hour and that's just the quest reward, not counting all the drops I get in those 2 minutes, great income and the mobs are so easy it's almost boring.

eik · Aug 06, 2005, 05:58 PM // 17:58

I dumped my fur which i was saving for ascalon armor to the bulk material trader (10) for 600 each average yesterday, awesome.

Xue Yi Liang · Aug 06, 2005, 06:17 PM // 18:17

wow good job!
I'll have to watch fur more closely now lol.

Maha Baharata · Aug 06, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23

for one to be rich one must farm uw solo and only solo. wise words from a wise monk.

Big Shooter · Aug 06, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Good Post Xue Yi Liang

...helpful post to anyone starting out

Deltu · Aug 06, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

You're crazy my Ranger/Monk kicks but solo (lvl 15), with 12 regen hardly anything can touch me and I don't use any traps. With Divine Boon and a couple of self heals I can take on a bunch of mobs at once and if disenchanted 5 energy is nothing to regain and if I really want to have unlimited energy I just toss on Balthazar's Spirit as well and give up +3 Mending. I make 10k plat a day when I farm, money is easy and much like the origional poster I do the same things, materials bring in a chit load of cash if you wait until the market price is high and then unload it all in one big sale. I know a quest that nets 125gp a pop and takes about 2 minutes so figure that 30 times an hour and that's just the quest reward, not counting all the drops I get in those 2 minutes, great income and the mobs are so easy it's almost boring.

Well either way ur not gonna make much money solo farming until droknars. then u can make 2k a run but u hvae to change ur class to warrior or ranger first for a speed up spell

the real adon · Aug 06, 2005, 11:44 PM // 23:44

What is a good place to take a Lev. 20 War/Mo, for farming.

kleps · Aug 07, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by Maha Baharata

for one to be rich one must farm uw solo and only solo. wise words from a wise monk.

wrong! there are places which are still farmable besides uw.

Card_board_urinal · Aug 07, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14

or i can tell you an ever faster way to the fine world of having lots of gold dye & good weapons....Scam..Scam like there is no tomarow...but this comes with a cost...the positive is...i got like 12 or 13 rare golds...plus about 45k....but my account is suspended for the next 166 hours...plus side...my comp is being sent back for a new caseing....so no loss to me..others do at your own risk..

Nikos Battlehammer · Aug 07, 2005, 09:37 AM // 09:37

How did you know your account was suspended? Did you get an email/message from them?

hotspur · Aug 07, 2005, 10:09 AM // 10:09

If you've got any Black Dye, sell it now, the trader is asking 15+k for it so it will probably sell to a player for 8+. Act fast before the dev's notice.