Curse

eudas · Jul 25, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23

I dunno, in diablo2, hardcore mode was definitely more fulfilling than playing softcore mode.

eudas

Bartuc Galadwor · Jul 25, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I would have liked to see this title just be consecutive experience and if you die, you start over. It would release it to people who already had made a character and it would also lessen the amout of people who don't help the party because they want the title, because you get more than once chance.

Silent Kitty · Jul 25, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by eudas

I dunno, in diablo2, hardcore mode was definitely more fulfilling than playing softcore mode.

eudas

Because you could kill the leeches, if you wanted

Shadowfox1125 · Jul 25, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

The first level of Survivor is a cinch to get; the next two aren't. Recently I got the title on my warrior, but I think the first lvl is good enough; I'm not wasting my time getting to more than half a million of experience. 1st level is good enough for me. I'll respect those who have already reached maxed out the title--they can die all they want to now.

Axl the Red · Jul 26, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

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Originally Posted by inscribed

Yeah, a warrior is going to cap Ether Renewal because he wants the skill... it has nothing to do with the title.

I sometimes capture some skills to unlock them for PvP (such as Elemental attunment for a Ele), something I would never use as a warrior would be unlocked and would be able to be much easier to obtain the gaining 3,000 balthazar (sp?) faction. I do not do it for the title. I just do it to unlock the skill.:

Cacheelma · Jul 26, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Could all of you who argue about capping all skills re-read my post please?

I was talking about capping all elites in order TO GAIN SURVIVOR TITLE. I.E. You do it and at the same time avoid dying with any means possible.

There's nothing wrong with capping all elites. I did that myself, although I died several times in Pre-Searing in April last year.

Clear enough? Now please get back on topic.

Anraeth · Jul 26, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14

people dont farm fame for hero titles...... its all in the emote

lishi · Jul 26, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

i still have to see someone who pay to farm 4665 fame ...

and even if someone do it .. well for the time he reach rank 9 he gonna have enough ha experience ...

arkadiusz · Jul 26, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Could all of you who argue about capping all skills re-read my post please?

I was talking about capping all elites in order TO GAIN SURVIVOR TITLE. I.E. You do it and at the same time avoid dying with any means possible.

There's nothing wrong with capping all elites. I did that myself, although I died several times in Pre-Searing in April last year.

there's two things about that title: playing well enough not to die, and gathering enough experience to get the title.

there is not enough quest and mission experience in prophecies and factions to fuel the title. the only way to get the title before nightfall is to either: farm some mobs; do repeatable quests, er, repeatedly; or capture elite skills.

capturing elite skills is the only way that does not involve doing the same thing over and over again, and has the added benefit of unlocking those skills.

what you're saying is basically that the titles are worthless if you are playing with the aim of getting those titles.

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Originally Posted by WeiPing

I have no respect at all for survivor titled people. None.

If you don't die a few times, I don't think you could possibly be having much fun.

you don't think so, so it must be impossible.

Riotact · Jul 26, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

I have treasure Hunter title and like most took a while to get, hero titles etc even if u farm fame u cant b a complete noob.

The ones i really hate were the AFK dragon festival ones. what crap titles that degrade the whole title concept. "I got lots of gold so if i AFK here for 3 days i can get a title". Now that truly sux.

Titles should mean u r good at something or achieved something.

King's Spectre · Jul 26, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by Gli

Funny, when I was going for the higher survivor tiers, I felt the exact opposite. I wouldn't dream of taking other players along on my adventures. Why waste a party slot on a flaky player if you can use it for another perfectly reliable henchie?

It's a personal goal and it really changes the game experience – really get’s the hard pounding when the baddies all decide to pick on YOU . I wish it wasn't possible to power-level the title, but I respect other ways. I don't think clearing every quest and mission in the game would get you to level 2 (or maybe just past it with the "defend" quests), so folks going for lvl3 are going to have to do SOMEthing for XP.

To stay sane, I've got to mix it up. Chase down some skill caps, do a repeatable quest somewhere, go solo hunt some critters.

With a ranger, I don't feel too bad joining pugs. I choose a beastmaster so I could stay in the back-lines and still contribute a tank and nice damage.

Talon one · Jul 26, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by WeiPing

I have no respect at all for survivor titled people. None.

If you don't die a few times, I don't think you could possibly be having much fun.

i dont know, the fun builds up. if you take your survivor out to cap a dangerous elite skill, after weeks of careful questing and close calls, fully aware that a single mistake, a momement or carelessness will kill you and destroy 100+ hours of work, and if you make it to your goal and get that 5k exp, i call it fun. if you dont think its fun, dont go for the survivor titles

i can die all i want on my other characters, but i like the option to make one of them a legendary survivor, just to prove to myself that i dont die if i dont want to.

my current survivor has done all quests and missions up to ice caves of sorrow in tyria and unwaking waters on both sides in cantha and i'm at 920k exp (290k from elite capping). i'm not going to play elite missions or fissure/uw and i'm not going to pvp. that leaves repeatable quests, farming, leeching, elite skill capping or repeatably killing everything on easy maps with exp scrolls.
i know some people would only respect my title if i got the title in the hardest way possible over a period of 500 hours playtime minimum. but for me, quests and capping is good enough

WeiPing · Jul 26, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by Talon one

if you take your survivor out to cap a dangerous elite skill...

You're going to be a LOT less inclined to take risks if you're trying to survive at all costs.

A game without risks is boooooring.

Ghull Ka · Jul 26, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Talon one

i dont know, the fun builds up. if you take your survivor out to cap a dangerous elite skill, after weeks of careful questing and close calls, fully aware that a single mistake, a momement or carelessness will kill you and destroy 100+ hours of work, and if you make it to your goal and get that 5k exp, i call it fun. if you dont think its fun, dont go for the survivor titles

True that!

I haven't gotten to where I can capture Ride the Lightning, Second Wind, or Unsteady Ground yet. When I get there, all I have to say to those ele bosses is: bring it on.

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Originally Posted by WeiPing

I have no respect at all for survivor titled people. None.

Well, it's a good thing that I don't want or need your respect.

I'm going for lvl 3 survivor and lvl 3 skill hunter. 830k XP without a death and 83 elites so far. I think it's sweet that the two titles work so well together. I'm also working on my protector titles; I'm at Abbadon's Mouth in Tyria and Sunjiang District in Cantha. Although I don't care about explorer title (because fog farming is boring), I pick up what I can where I can, and I'm closing in on 60% on both continents.

I had fun in the FoW the other day playing an offensive trapper. Nice XP there. I went out with the same offensive trapper build capturing Flesh Golem this morning. I got my traps in and stepped back just before that ritualist threw his double damage Ancestor's Rage. Other people died, but I didn't, and I was right there in front of everything, in a PUG, with one monk, laying traps. Lots of fun.

I'm not saying this for your benefit or out of self defense -- again, I don't need or want your respect. I have nothing to prove to anyone, except myself. If you don't want me in your party, well buddy, you can be assured that I wouldn't want to be in yours either. <insert henchie name here> will most likely be a better companion than you would anyway.

To the people out there earning survivor titles by being powerleveled. Meh, if that's how you like doing it, that's fine. Enjoy your "watching TV" title. Sure, you're giving the title in general a bad name, but I don't care if it has a bad name. I'm not doing this for anyone else out there, I'm doing it for me. People are free to think whatever they want about the title.

I'm a survivor because I enjoy it. If I die before I earn level 3, I'll delete her and recreate her. To other survivors out there, who are playing through the game, facing challenges and surviving them: Good luck. Stay alive.

Horseman Of War · Jul 26, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

i would be very impressed with an assassin who is a Survivor.

Titles are nice- its like that screen in GTA that shows you what youve been up to- my personal favorite is the Unlucky titles- THOSE are hardcore titles LOL... mine cost 15k

Talon one · Jul 26, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by WeiPing

You're going to be a LOT less inclined to take risks if you're trying to survive at all costs.

A game without risks is boooooring.

its true, i wont try to tank that group of oni all by myself. instead, i will take a step back and let the warrior henchie take the heat while i kill them. but taking (calculated) risks is exactly what is so fun in the survivor title track. i went down to below 50 health while trying to protect togo during vizunah square. my personal record is 28 health, and that was after switching to the +30 health focus while running out of aggro range after half the henchies were dead during the halcyon job quest. i got sloppy because i remembered it as a very easy quest

i might as well say that a game where i'm not afraid to die is boring.

for me, these titles are just bragging rights. its not like i expect them to make it easier to find pugs. i dont even want to be in most pugs

but when i do join pugs, its for the fun of it. when i really want something done, i go with friends or henchies and maybe invite a pug or two. when i invite pugs, i usualy try to get someone with a title. any title. because no matter how they got it, it shows a certain expertise / patience / resourcefulness / dedication to the game or character they play.

WeiPing · Jul 26, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by Talon one

when i invite pugs, i usualy try to get someone with a title. any title. because no matter how they got it, it shows a certain expertise / patience / resourcefulness / dedication to the game or character they play.

I can agree with that...except for Survivor titles. I don't want anyone who's going to care more about surviving than getting the job done.

The worst Survivor is the ones who will rezone on a Drok run just to avoid getting killed. God, I hate those people. They're ranked right down there with people who scribble on the minimap while I'm running and those who leave Beacon's before I'm ready, when _I'm_ the one making the run.

pigdestroyer · Jul 26, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

why theres always heroes ascent rank bashing?

jealousy

Helll is for Heroes · Jul 26, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by Anraeth

people dont farm fame for hero titles...... its all in the emote

actually, i'm farming fame for rank4, not for the rank6 wolf.

rank4 sounds the bset to me.

Or rank7.

Teklord · Jul 26, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by pigdestroyer

why theres always heroes ascent rank bashing?

jealousy

Ah yes...

I'm sorry. I just about fell out of my chair laughing at this. I hardly ever even play PvP, although I do believe it to be a lot of fun when involved with people there for the *fun* of it. None the less I have no respect at all for Fame/Rank farmers, not that there is any way to prove exactly how someone got to where they are today.

My disdain for Rank type players came the day I saw someone advertising for a PvE mission saying "Rank 3+ only!". I challenged him on it, and this person made the claim that if you didn't have Rank then you must not be any good at this game (thus by showing the intelligence level of that particular player). That exact moment in time is where I lost all respect for Rank. Yes I'm sure there is a nice and very small number of players that actually *earned* the Rank they have, and good on them. They know who they are.

Jealousy... LoL a little more.

Addition: At least with titles akin to Protector of <insert place here> you can't "farm" for it. You have to actually accomplish a goal by being a team player.