Curse

Genetic · Jul 26, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by Urban_Nomad

Leadership (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
You gain 1 Energy for each ally affected by one of your Shouts or Chants (maximum 1 Energy for every 3 ranks).

So, at 12 Leadership, at least, you could gain 4 energy for every ally the shout affects. That could end up being a lot. If it affects all of your party (7 other members, don't know if they will affect the player themselves) Then that adds up to 28 energy with one shout. With 15 Leadership, that comes to 35.

I'd say that's pretty good.

I Think by maximum, it means total energy. i.e. at 15 leadership the most energy you can gain per shout is 5, which would require 5 or more allies to be present. 35 energy just seems ridiculous to me.

Mr Jazzy · Jul 26, 2006, 05:11 AM // 05:11

i think the knew type of counter to shouts will be anti-shouts. for example, if a warrior calls out "watch yourself!", a mesmer or some other profession would shout "oh no you didn't!". probably something that cancels out the shout effects on foes.

merdle · Jul 26, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Anti-shouts?

Possibly hexes with names like reminescent of annoying noises or distraction that will prevent people from being affected by shouts. Course such a Hex would have to hit multiple people to be useful, and it would assist in Hex spamming... so who knows, it could just be a shout itself. Maybe it'll actually be a paragon skill.

Solar_Takfar · Jul 26, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by Mr Jazzy

i think the knew type of counter to shouts will be anti-shouts. for example, if a warrior calls out "watch yourself!", a mesmer or some other profession would shout "oh no you didn't!". probably something that cancels out the shout effects on foes.

"Behind you! Look!"
Shout. Cancel armor, evasion and block bonuses conceded to nearby foes by their allies' shouts. Suppress such bonuses conceded by chants and stances for 1...8 seconds.

"SHUT THE #%@& UP!!!"
Hex. Affected foe can't shout or chant for 5...20 seconds.

"Dude, your shoelaces are loose!!"
Shout. Interrupt all wammos within earshot range. Knockdown 1...4 wammos in the area.

But seriously, I don't hink they're gonna add such a thing, because they would have to make "counter-shouts" acquirable in prophecies and factions too, for it to be fair with players who own just those chapters, and it's unlikely they'd make nightfall skills available in other chapters.

Malchior Devenholm · Jul 26, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Im with Solar on that one, this is the reason the Paragon is gonna be the new leader of the combat in GVG.

Shouts are like Weapon Spells, they cant be undone

However, i suspect something along the use of a new form of shouting such as chanting as already mentioned, chants will prob have a casting time because normal shouts as of now have no cast time and therefore cant b interrupted. Having such normal shouts on the Paragon that cant b disrupted or removed in anyway seems a bit lopsided to me

Vahn Roi · Jul 26, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban_Nomad

Leadership (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
You gain 1 Energy for each ally affected by one of your Shouts or Chants (maximum 1 Energy for every 3 ranks).

So, at 12 Leadership, at least, you could gain 4 energy for every ally the shout affects. That could end up being a lot. If it affects all of your party (7 other members, don't know if they will affect the player themselves) Then that adds up to 28 energy with one shout. With 15 Leadership, that comes to 35.

I'd say that's pretty good.

I read the discription as "maximum 1 Energy for every 3 ranks totl" which to me would make more sense...

King of War · Jul 26, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by ChuckNorrispwns

GameSpot defines The Paragon like so:

And the paragon's angelic nature isn't just aesthetic, as this profession's presence can help teammates resist hexes and other curses.

You know what this means, more and more running, making it even easier for players that take the easy route to blow through the campaigns....

evil.E · Jul 26, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

I see a lot of similarities between this prof and the pre-CURB/pre-NGE Squad Leader in Star Wars Galaxies. They used a lot of group buffs that added an interesting dimension to PvP. Like the skill "On Your Feet" which more or less helped knocked down players pop back up. Of course being SWG a lot of their skills didn't work, but if they did....

I could also see a possible counter to shouts being something that temporaily deafens players. After all they did make that change to shout descriptions to say "Within Earshot." IMO they could even make it a new condition.

Deafining Roar - For X seconds all foes in area gain no benefit from shouts.

Ringing Ears - For X seconds target foe suffers from.....