Curse

Petardo · Aug 19, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Hi guys,

i have been playing GW since August 2005 (prophecies). I found it really enjoiable but when Factions came out something went wrong.

In the euro districts almost all the cities are empty (obviously except KG or House Zu H.)... For me the problem is: if there are ppl they only want to:
1) sell stuff
2) sell other stuff
3) farming
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100) maybe do some quest

In prophecies there was almost every time someone to party with, in order to do some quest (the little ones too!). Now NOBODY seems to do quest in party. There are a lot of ppl with 7 henchies and they want join you (or answer you at all) even if you say: LFG ANY QUEST!

Guys, i like the pvE of GW (more the PVP) and i'm getting annoyed of this situation. And I think it's not a question of "summer period"... this situation starts almost from the beginning of Factions.

What do you think guys? I'm only unlucky?

Maybe i should find an active guild (it's not easy)...

madman420 · Aug 19, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Honestly, that is what henchmen are for. It's a shame to say, but some outposts in factions are so deserted that the only recourse is to use henchies.

Knightsaber Sith · Aug 19, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

I'd say it's most likely due to the fact that most pve focused players find factions pve content to be severely lacking and head on back to tyria. Let's just hope that Nightfall lives upto being more pve oriented as promised

Shadow of Light · Aug 19, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

I don't know what country you live in to be in the Euro server, but if you're like me (Australian), you're probably better off changing to the American servers. There are far more people around at the times of day I'm awake and able to play.

Petardo · Aug 19, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

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Originally Posted by madman420

Honestly, that is what henchmen are for. It's a shame to say, but some outposts in factions are so deserted that the only recourse is to use henchies.

This will happen even if there are some ppl (like me for example) looking for groups. Many times I found 5 or 6 ppl (sometime more), in the same outpost, with 7 henchies... Moreover in bigger outpost (house Zu H. for example) it's really hard find someone to quest with... only sell stuff, lf taxi or hang around

Phaern Majes · Aug 19, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

Nah I don't like factions strictly for the lack of pve content.... Well "lack" may be a bad word to describe it. Not so much a lack of content just alot of poorly planned content. My problems with it:

1) No skills as quest rewards (I have to farm even more to afford them)

2) I enjoyed level 20 being a challenge, not create a character and 3 hours later voila lvl 20. (Maybe exaggerated a little but not by much)

3) Alliance system...dunno why just not a fan of how the elite missions can be totally kept under wraps if an alliance wants to.

4) Henchie AI worse than chapter 1, don't know how but it always is.

5) Inconsistent monster lvl's... if I'm lvl 3, fighting lvl 3-4 monsters I don't want to see a lvl 12 in the middle of the group I aggroed. (I think they fixed that but I remember it being a problem)

6) Timed missions? Great.....now my bonus xp relies on my team not being leechers, having overactive bladders, or having a massive urge to go get something to drink which will inevitably lead to another "afk brb". All that rather than actual skill...

7) Being forced to choose a side... why can't I remain neutral? (this isn't a big deal to me just a minor annoyance. It just so happens I at least like the Luxons

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8) Monster Rit's can deal massive damage but whenever I do it, well lets just say my damage is pathetic compared to theirs. It doesn't matter what level the monsters are their channelling is always set at 30 or something.

9) Merchants and vendors not talking to me if my faction is below what 1k? I hate warping back to friggen Kaineng every time I want to sell something.

The list can go on and on... needless to say I spend alot of time in prophecies.

Petardo · Aug 19, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

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Originally Posted by Shadow of Light

I don't know what country you live in to be in the Euro server, but if you're like me (Australian), you're probably better off changing to the American servers. There are far more people around at the times of day I'm awake and able to play.

Maybe i could try... but i'm afraid of the time zones. I mean: I'm from Italy and I can play only in the evening (exept during weekend) - work sucks

- and I think American guys would sleep at that time. Or not?

Feminist Terrorist · Aug 19, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Petardo, Americans don't sleep.

If you play at, say, 2100, that's only 1500 for the east coast, and 1200 for the west. Those are great times to play. Try changing your location and see how you like it. Just make sure you can change back if you don't like it.

Phaern Majes · Aug 19, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Your evening would be late morning for us most likely. Maybe even early afternoon.

Beat to it :S ^^

Numa Pompilius · Aug 19, 2006, 08:34 AM // 08:34

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Originally Posted by Petardo

In the euro districts almost all the cities are empty

Uh... When do you play? 5 o'clock at night? Except for some really out of place places like Seafarers Rest (and of course the eternally empty Jade Quarry) the towns in factions are never empty...

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party. There are a lot of ppl with 7 henchies and they wont join you (or answer you at all) even if you say: LFG ANY QUEST!

Well, that's different. Maybe they don't want to join you? I play with henches because I don't want to rush, and I want to be able to go AFK whenever I want for as long as I want.

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Maybe i should find an active guild (it's not easy)...

Actually it's as easy as standing in Kaineng Center and answering the people trying to recruit players.

EDIT: OH, I just saw that you're italian. You've been playing in the ITALIAN district? That one _IS_ empty; apparently GW hasn't been the same success in italy as it's been in most of the rest of europe. Go to the English district.

Amy Awien · Aug 19, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41

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Originally Posted by Petardo

In prophecies there was almost every time someone to party with, in order to do some quest (the little ones too!). Now NOBODY seems to do quest in party. There are a lot of ppl with 7 henchies and they want join you (or answer you at all) even if you say: LFG ANY QUEST!

I'd never respond to that annaouncement. Most of the time PuG's are just horrible company for questing, all go-go-go and rushing is just not my kind of game. Sorry.

There have been exceptions, PuG-questing can be worthwhile. When it was fun, my attention was drawn by announcements radically different from "lfg, any quest", something that indicated to me that this person or group was likely to quest in a more fun way, for me.

Petardo · Aug 19, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Uh... When do you play? 5 o'clock at night? Except for some really out of place places like Seafarers Rest (and of course the eternally empty Jade Quarry) the towns in factions are never empty...

No... i'm playing from 21 to 24 in the evening. The problem is: If there are ppl in the cities they don't do anything but selling stuff for hours. No questing at all. That's the problem for me

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Well, that's different. Maybe they don't want to join you? I play with henches because I don't want to rush, and I want to be able to go AFK whenever I want for as long as I want.

sure. It's possibile but IMHO the spirit of a multiplayer game should play togheter. Or not?

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EDIT: OH, I just saw that you're italian. You've been playing in the ITALIAN district? That one _IS_ empty; apparently GW hasn't been the same success in italy as it's been in most of the rest of europe. Go to the English district.

I tried. I'm always in english district cause italian are always empty

Petardo · Aug 19, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

I'd never respond to that annaouncement. Most of the time PuG's are just horrible company for questing, all go-go-go and rushing is just not my kind of game. Sorry.

There have been exceptions, PuG-questing can be worthwhile. When it was fun, my attention was drawn by announcements radically different from "lfg, any quest", something that indicated to me that this person or group was likely to quest in a more fun way, for me.

So do you play only with your guild mates?

Moreover I found some really mature player playing quests (few in the factions)... often the kiddies or rushers prefer to do only the main quest or farm. This in my experience.

Amy Awien · Aug 19, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

Sometimes I help someone in the guild with a quest, usually that turns out ok. Other then that I'll just take henchies, since good pickup lines that would catch my interest are very rare.

Sol Deathgard · Aug 19, 2006, 10:00 AM // 10:00

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

1) No skills as quest rewards (I have to farm even more to afford them)

Funny I didn't have to farm unless I wanted all skills on one character, but I did do every quest on every character, that will killing monsters made me lots of money

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2) I enjoyed level 20 being a challenge, not create a character and 3 hours later voila lvl 20. (Maybe exaggerated a little but not by much)

The all the lvl 20's from tyria will be bored cause when they dock at Kaining Center they are fighting what? North Shiverpeak or Kryta lvl monsters instead of South shiverpeak lvl enemies.

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3) Alliance system...dunno why just not a fan of how the elite missions can be totally kept under wraps if an alliance wants to.

agreed

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4) Henchie AI worse than chapter 1, don't know how but it always is.

Actually I enjoy Factions hench a whole lot more then Prophcies, at least faction hench have condition & hex removal, and the monks don't stand right next to me while I'm trying to tank like Alesia & Lina do. Maybe you are taking Melee hench with you, try without melee hench.

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5) Inconsistent monster lvl's... if I'm lvl 3, fighting lvl 3-4 monsters I don't want to see a lvl 12 in the middle of the group I aggroed. (I think they fixed that but I remember it being a problem)

Still around, only in "presearing" and they wheren't that big of a problem.

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6) Timed missions? Great.....now my bonus xp relies on my team not being leechers, having overactive bladders, or having a massive urge to go get something to drink which will inevitably lead to another "afk brb". All that rather than actual skill...

Only thing I hate about this is some Jackass gets into a team that doesn't care about getting masters and tells them to hurry up cause he needs it.

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7) Being forced to choose a side... why can't I remain neutral? (this isn't a big deal to me just a minor annoyance. It just so happens I at least like the Luxons

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I'll forgive you for that (Kurzick)

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8) Monster Rit's can deal massive damage but whenever I do it, well lets just say my damage is pathetic compared to theirs. It doesn't matter what level the monsters are their channelling is always set at 30 or something.

All bosses do double dmg, regular monsters are around the same lvl as you.

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9) Merchants and vendors not talking to me if my faction is below what 1k? I hate warping back to friggen Kaineng every time I want to sell something.

Love the merch at my guild hall

Xenrath · Aug 19, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Hopefully this will be corrected with Nightfall. There's a post somewhere from Gaile of Anet where she admits basically Factions was more for the PvP crowd and that Nightfall will be much more for the PvE crowd.

Interestingly that was never mentioned before release, the cynic in me says sales would have been a lot less if they said that beforehand.

A few more details: the fast track to Level 20 is very likely here to stay for future expansionstandaloneaddons because you can merge and carry over your old level 20 characters - which would then promptly tear through any low level content.

Server population in Europe has not been all that impressive. I've been playing at various times of day and night and completed it several times over now with old and new chars, and most assuredly, there are less players around compared to when Prophecies was new-ish. District hopping to find players was uncommon then, but it's not unheard of now.

Incidently, it's a "multiplayer online game" bots/henchies are all well and good but that's not the same as "multiplayer" you might as well just play a single player game if you suggest just bots as the answer.

Z'HA'DUM · Aug 19, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Nightfall FTW!!!!! its gonna be allright again^^

Ninna · Aug 19, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Originally Posted by Xenrath

Hopefully this will be corrected with Nightfall. There's a post somewhere from Gaile of Anet where she admits basically Factions was more for the PvP crowd and that Nightfall will be much more for the PvE crowd..

anyone have a link for that Gaile quote?

I've only seen players *assume* Nightfall will be more like Prophecies
(because its the same Dev team)

Knightsaber Sith · Aug 19, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by Ninna

anyone have a link for that Gaile quote?

I've only seen players *assume* Nightfall will be more like Prophecies
(because its the same Dev team)

just settle down now; our precious pve will be back soon

lol

Petardo · Aug 19, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by Xenrath

Hopefully this will be corrected with Nightfall. There's a post somewhere from Gaile of Anet where she admits basically Factions was more for the PvP crowd and that Nightfall will be much more for the PvE crowd.

Interestingly that was never mentioned before release, the cynic in me says sales would have been a lot less if they said that beforehand.

I hope so. But i'll wait some weeks before buying Nightfall in order to "feel" the "mood" of the community about the pvE. Free time is too short to waste it "LFG" for hours.