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Old Aug 20, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #21
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I have the feeling my SS is going to be just fine in Nightfall. MM? Only time will tell, but I think there will still be call for them.
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Old Aug 20, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #22
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the MM will never die


i personally would NEVER use MM in pvp, aside from occasionally in alliance battles...


I do use spiteful spirit... on my mesmer... actually i reworked my mesmer BECAUSE of dervishes.... so ... bring it on, dervs!! Mez vs Dervish is so godly... dervs hate backfire AND empathy... throw in SS, maybe guilt, spirit shackles, ... man there is just SO MUCH to kill a dervish with its not even funny.

any worried MMs just follow me, ill take care of you.
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52   #23
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the MM will never die


i personally would NEVER use MM in pvp, aside from occasionally in alliance battles...


I do use spiteful spirit... on my mesmer... actually i reworked my mesmer BECAUSE of dervishes.... so ... bring it on, dervs!! Mez vs Dervish is so godly... dervs hate backfire AND empathy... throw in SS, maybe guilt, spirit shackles, ... man there is just SO MUCH to kill a dervish with its not even funny.

any worried MMs just follow me, ill take care of you.
lol, indeed, best way to kill Derv is backfire, empathy and SS, and add in the degen,
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50   #24
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maybe a spellcasting minion in nightfall will make everything... different..
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38   #25
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In PVE ranged fiends will still be good.

Fiends have always been better than horrors anyway, in Nightfall they'll be even more better.
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50   #26
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Why do people use horrors other than for Death Nova bombs and minion walling? They do less DPS than fiends...

Personally I never use horrors because fiends are just that good.
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15   #27
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Why do people use horrors other than for Death Nova bombs and minion walling? They do less DPS than fiends...

Personally I never use horrors because fiends are just that good.
Fiends have a 5 second cooldown. If a corpse is made during that time, you need to make something...
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58   #28
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plus guys... even tho the 2 minion spell is the weakest... remember you get soul reaping for BOTH... its not an unwise descision.

personally vampire minion is my least favorite/never used...

Yeah I want a SUMMON HOMONCULOUS which will cast illusion spells on my enemies for me. Or SUMMON UNDEAD DERVISH to do aoe dmg

or.... ANIMATE TARGET ALLY (if target ally is rezzed then the minion is destroyed)
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #29
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3) Well of the Profane FTW
Well of Profane doesn't work against Dervishe's. >_>
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Old Aug 21, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08   #30
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heh, I just ask for one simple flying minion with a frickin lazer beam, is that too much to fricken ask for? heh
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26   #31
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Well of Profane doesn't work against Dervishe's. >_>
Why wouldnt it? if it really doesnt, it should.
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 11:00 AM // 11:00   #32
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the MM will never die


i personally would NEVER use MM in pvp, aside from occasionally in alliance battles...


I do use spiteful spirit... on my mesmer... actually i reworked my mesmer BECAUSE of dervishes.... so ... bring it on, dervs!! Mez vs Dervish is so godly... dervs hate backfire AND empathy... throw in SS, maybe guilt, spirit shackles, ... man there is just SO MUCH to kill a dervish with its not even funny.

any worried MMs just follow me, ill take care of you.
If your good at interrupting. Power block works nicely for countering their avatar spells.
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16   #33
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Yeah I want a SUMMON HOMONCULOUS which will cast illusion spells on my enemies for me. Or SUMMON UNDEAD DERVISH to do aoe dmg

or.... ANIMATE TARGET ALLY (if target ally is rezzed then the minion is destroyed)
ROFL i cant stop laughing, hahaha!
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #34
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A-Net is really good with nerfing stuff also
QFT! lol

ANet will likely nerf the dervish whether it needs it or not, so I wouldn't worry too much about MM's until we see more Ch3 skills.
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #35
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Why wouldnt it? if it really doesnt, it should.
Err, yeah...read the skill description.

"Exploit nearest corpse to create a Well of the Profane at its location. For 8...18 seconds, foes in that area are stripped of all Enchantments and cannot be the target of further Enchantments. (50% failure chance with Death Magic 4 or less.)"

" Note that Well of the Profane does not prevent untarget enchantments. This includes skills like Aegis, or self-cast skills like most Dervish enchantments. "

It's working as it should.
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 09:49 AM // 09:49   #36
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Aaah okay, didnt know that.
I was allready looking at Well of the Profane as a powerfull Dervish counter.
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Old Aug 23, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56   #37
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I actually had a run in with some "Dervishes" in the event that were not "COP" dervishes and the team, I was with along with minions-Death nova-blackout and backfire put the pressure on them very well.

I did die quick to the Balthazar form they were using but the number of minions that exploded on them after I used black out (cheap tactic) ended up killing them fairly quickly.

I posted this on another forum and got flamed royally for mentioning this (and the fact that I had my wrong AL armor on).

At least I know one form that is weak to MM and that is Blathazar (provided you use the right specials).
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