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eom · Jan 11, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by Pinch

How to make money:
-Only buy armor in ascalon, then droknar's
-Don't buy skills that you can get from quests
-Do every mission
-Don't even buy anything other than salvage / ID kits
-Get a collector weapon at endgame
-Hunt your own greens

Without even having to interact with players, this guide will guarantee you 100k+ from gold drops and selling loot to merchants by the end of the game, which is enough to get your 15k armor + vanity weapon.

Too many people waste their money getting armor at every possible place they see, which is probably the biggest problem with new players.

that's what I do, and I don't see any problem w/it.
armor's cheap --- I'll always take an upgrade.

when I had just gotten to post I was pretty broke, but by the time you get to yak's, or la, or wherever, you've usually got plenty of dough.
especially after all the $$$ they gave away over xmas.
thank you, santa-net.

Banebow · Jan 11, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

I would like to direct you to this thread. Fissure armor for a warrior quoted at about 400k.

Money is easy to make. It always has been, though it can be argued that it is harder now since you cannot sell all the golds to players for decent cash. The thing is, money has been going downhill in overall value. 400k in the 300 or so hours that person played can be done today as well, usually you can get more than that (maybe 500-600k. Maybe more, for some of the really hardcore farmers). But what does it matter when things have quadrupled in cost?

Do what I do, make only a few farming runs a day at most. Easily avoid any boredom if you dislike farming, and make enough cash to quickly buy yourself a 15k set if that is what you want.

Grimm · Jan 11, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

You're missing the point of the game, I think. You don't *need* much money at all. This game was designed so that money and items play a very small part next to your skill as a player. Most RPG games reward grinding and farming; this one allows it, but it's not necessary at all.

I don't understand why people feel the need to farm for hours a day to make money. I work in real life for money; I don't want to have to work at a job in a game too.

If you *like* grinding and farming, maybe WoW is a better game for you.

Savio · Jan 11, 2006, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Banebow

I would like to direct you to this thread. Fissure armor for a warrior quoted at about 400k.

That was over half a year ago. It's more expensive now, to say the least.

Curassis Ilmensen · Jan 11, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by Grimm

You're missing the point of the game, I think. You don't *need* much money at all.

You asked how we are supposed to make all that money for expensive stuff!

The answer is: We are NOT!

If you just play the game normally you will soon get enought money for the 1,5k armour (which is the best in the game) and will surely have found a weapon that is close to the best available. If not you can easily get a max. dmg weapon with max mod from a collector!

You are not supposed to get 1000p and you don't need it. If you play for a very long time, or just love farming you may be able to buy much more expensive stuff which may look cooler but usually is not, or only very slightly!

I think the problem is with the guys who started the game one week ago and want to have fissure armour dyed black a perfect fellblade and Malinon's shield by tomorrow! This is their problem and definately not a fault of the game. This just is not possible and it should not be! It is not in all other games, on the contrary, there are not many games that allow a player to get the best equipment so easiy as in Guild Wars.

Manic Smile · Jan 11, 2006, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by Curassis Ilmensen

I think the problem is with the guys who started the game one week ago and want to have fissure armour dyed black a perfect fellblade and Malinon's shield by tomorrow! This is their problem and definately not a fault of the game. This just is not possible and it should not be! It is not in all other games, on the contrary, there are not many games that allow a player to get the best equipment so easiy as in Guild Wars.

soooo very true...meh

The Herbalizer · Jan 11, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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I think the problem is with the guys who started the game one week ago and want to have fissure armour dyed black a perfect fellblade and Malinon's shield by tomorrow! This is their problem and definately not a fault of the game. This just is not possible and it should not be!

This is something i see alot. People coming out of presearing for the first time ever and expect to be able to make millions. I have witnessed this and was left speachless. They were wanting a 55 monk after only playing a few days

lg5000 · Jan 11, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

.. and then there are those others who'd love to get fissure armor, actually go UW and FoW to see the place as well as pick up the occassional ecto/shard, which of course, doesn't drop nearly as much as they used to, plus you have a 1 in 8 chance of getting it... at this point in time, I have no idea how my warrior is gonna achieve fissure armor as farming is deadly boring and material prices have been down since before christmas.

I remember how long it took to get my monk 15k armor.. but.. by the time I did thunderhead keep with her, I had the 15k armor. My warrior has been stuck at ring of fire for a lifetime, because I'd like to get fissure for her before finishing the missions there.

And maybe, the lack of money for my warrior stems from the fact that I am only a casual player with responsibilities far exeeding gw itself.

generik · Jan 11, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

This is something i see alot. People coming out of presearing for the first time ever and expect to be able to make millions. I have witnessed this and was left speachless. They were wanting a 55 monk after only playing a few days

Kids of today.

Saider maul · Jan 11, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Everyone makes it sound like I am complaining for my self.I am not. I have close to a yr behind me in the game 1mil exp on my tank 2.2mil exp on my monk. I have beaten the game 4 times have 4 lvl 20's All carry green sets most in 15k armor tank has 2 pieces of fow armor.
I am bored and don't need money!!!

Why do i stil farm...Hmmmmm To give gold wepons to new recruits.
To get materials for their armor or weapon crafting.

Why do i do this..

Well look at market When the battle picks were holding 2 grips enchanted axe grips wer going for 100k for 20% in droknar. Wepon mod prices are way out of control.it cost me 115k to build a godly collectors sword all because people want to gouge you for every coin they can.

Greed and self centeredness are the nature of man thus the desire for fow armor and the high prices but when is enough enough. The game need a mod trader kinda like a second weapon smith. this might put a cap on some prices.
You will never stop solo and if they ever do most pve will quit the game.

Why have i taken on the financial burdon of my guild as they come in.
1: Because I can and not feel the dent.
2: so they have at least 1 solo godly lvl 20...
this way at least the 20-30 that come into my guild actually enjoy having to not worry about cash and can build other characters that work well in groups with everything and skill they need.

I have been removed from groups in my ranger simple because i only had favorable winds and they were to lazy to swap their fav winds with winnowing or because i use battlerage on my tank.

Doing this for my guildies is the only reason i don't have a full set of fow armor.

again i complain for the new people not for myself.

Saider maul · Jan 11, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

1 quick note if your strictly pvp you have no right to this disgussion.
you have no concept of how to earn money aside from sigils and to obsessed with rank. neither have to do with pve which we are talking about here aside from 1 sigil required for a hall.

funbun · Jan 11, 2006, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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Originally Posted by Saider maul

I am bored and don't need money!!!

Dude, either play another game for a while or wait until Chapter 2 is released. I ususally play GW for a couple months then take a month off.

How about read a book or something?

Saider maul · Jan 11, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by funbun

Dude, either play another game for a while or wait until Chapter 2 is released. I ususally play GW for a couple months then take a month off.

How about read a book or something?

Yeah telling me to walk out on those i support thru the game nice. and so selfish of you.

I do i race in NFSU2 tournaments for real money on xbox live.
How do ya think i built these computers. <EG>

I am not a child or novice gamer.

Banebow · Jan 11, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by Savio

That was over half a year ago. It's more expensive now, to say the least.

Yes, I knew it was very old when I linked it. My point was that while prices have gone up a good deal on items like this, the ways to make money have not gone up accordingly.

It is easy enough for me to make money, or anyone else. Heck, I have almost half a million sitting in my storage. Yet half a million now is almost nothing compared to what it was then, but that half a million still took the same amount of work now that it did then.

Battle Torn · Jan 11, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Ok you ask how to make money... I wont tell you you dont need it and try to answer your question...

You can make 60k+ in 3 hours farming griffons and thats just gold if you have the right build. I dont want to post multiple times the same post but you can search for the build I use and Im sure many others too, but dont go for the nOOb builds youll find, they will waste your time and effort when you need to maximise your time by kill ratio. I can clear 1.5k every run farming griffons and it only takes about 10mins each run. They you have to identify everything (even the whites) and sell it then go again. Augury rock is best place to go (search for griffon farming)

Phrozenflame · Jan 11, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

after reading 13 pages, ppl are still discussing same old point ..oh well

I tell yu how to make money...sell ur gold unid stuff

i got flamebarge req 8 gold un id..cud have gone for 10-20k, i id it..15% vs plants...now i'll sell for 500 to someone in ascalon.

Chaos Eryx · Jan 11, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

The secret to making money....

Spend less time complaining about it in forums and go make it....

Use your head. It's a simple economy. Think about it. What do people always need regardless of nerfs, rares or anything else in the game.

Armor ,Weapons, and Runes!

Armor :So we look for large mobs taken down quite easily. Instead of selling those 5 or so , what seem to be worthless, decayed orr emblems......SALVAGE THEM. People always need materials to by armor and know they can buy them cheaper from a person than a trader. I made 5k in less than 3 minutes selling 500 pieces of wood. Something that salvages so commonly and takes no time to get.

Weapons....lots of those drop during material farming runs. SALVAGE THE CRAPPY ONES. Why get 30gp from a crappy flamberge when I can salvage it for say 5 iron ingots and sell each of them 12gp each. Of course you get the rare gold drops and then you can sell those for bigger cash.

Runes.....They drop while material farming as well. Sell the minors in Ascalon, Majors in LA and Superiors in Drok's.

No one likes to buy from Merchants in game. You can always buy stuff cheaper from players underselling the merchants. Imagine if you salavged and saved from the time you left per seer until you reached Drok's I bet you could keep the materials you need for armor and then buy your armor selling the remaining materials in your inventory and likely have enough left over to buy something overpriced.

I have 4 chars. All lvl20 and each has no less than one green weapon. My ranger is spoiled with 4 green bows,perfect storm bows and a composite bow.

Happy hunting....

Saider maul · Jan 12, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Thats just it til someone can build a solo it takes month to get there. I argue for the noob only not myself. And i give away more then i spend lately. like i care, nope.
do i think anet need to reverse the recharge time and skills involved in farming areas, yup.

Do i think that the aoe patch making enemy run as early as the casting of aoe spells and henchies running in fear is over dramatized to a point aoe is nearly uneffective yeah for most part but requires timing.

Do i enjoy arguing with everyone on their high horse only speaking badly about the complaints because they made theirs when exploits ran rampid or are strictly pvp players with no concept of pve money market....ABSOLUTLY!!!.
1 yr ago this was a truly fun game now its more work to acheive what ya want then ever before i only want what i had for my predicessors.

I can only bare so much of the financial burden and its more then i can say half you greedy mofos do for your guildies.( all those against the nerf are excluded)

Thanks for sharing keep coming back it works.lol

Saider maul · Jan 13, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

wow not one comback. truth must hurt.

aron searle · Jan 13, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

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Originally Posted by Saider maul

wow not one comback. truth must hurt.

ill try then.

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Thats just it til someone can build a solo it takes month to get there. I argue for the noob only not myself. And i give away more then i spend lately. like i care, nope.

I "think" your trying to say it takes ages to make money unless you make a solo farmer, if that is what your saying then what is your point?

If people want 15k armour ect ect then they have to earn it, and if that means soloing then solo (or they CAN 5 man farm for greens).

If they dont solo then they will still have enought money for droks armour and weopons and any runes (apart from super but big woot), if they dont like it tough, do the work. (and at most they might be a few k short of droks becasue they spent it on skills or were not carefull with there money, just go out with a few henchies and farm any random place / a few k is half an hour to an hour with henchies).

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Do i enjoy arguing with everyone on their high horse only speaking badly about the complaints because they made theirs when exploits ran rampid or are strictly pvp players with no concept of pve money market....ABSOLUTLY!!!.
1 yr ago this was a truly fun game now its more work to acheive what ya want then ever before i only want what i had for my predicessors.

I teach my guildees (or point out builds for them from others) on how/where/when ect to farm, the ones that took my advice are all now able to get 15k armour.

If you can get 15k armour then its just a matter of time till you have 100k, now thats not fow armour money, but that will buy you ANYTHING you NEED.

ANY class can farm so there is no excuse, mesmer/ele/monk/necro can all use the 55hp build to some degree, infact a ranger can still do it as well but its not the best option. Rangers can farm the desert, and need i even go into the warriors farm ability.

If you want fow armour then be prepared to solo/duo the UW. ANY CLASS can be teamed with a invinci monk to farm uw. Ive done 2 man runs with all the classes bar a warrior, but warriors can take the place of an invinci and that means i can switch to heal and put a few smites on the warrior in my place.

It is harder than "the ole days", but its still easy to get 15k or perfect weopons, but the high end stuff (a 15^50 longsword rather than the droks one / or a super instead of major absorb) does now require abit more dedication, but then if you dont want to put the effort in, do you really deserve it?