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majoho · Sep 05, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Omega X

Why would someone believe such a thing?

Why would NC Soft can its newly knighted "bread and butter"?

BTW I read this rumor when I stumbled upon the post in a Gamespot Guild Wars forum while doing a search on Google. There were some basic complaints that the graphics engine was getting old? Even when its continually tweaked by the cofounder of ANET, who BTW coded it with his two hands.

Why would anyone care to start a rumor so obvious?

You should have posted a link to the post, to me this just sounds like you are starting such a rumor.

led-zep · Sep 05, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

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Originally Posted by Sentential

You couldnt be more wrong and I actually "am in the computer biz". Here's the deal, the way that DX10 uses shaders requires a graphics card with a unified pipeline. However a DX10 card can run DX9 applications and in addition all DX builds contain the files from previous versions enabling people to run older versions.

If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.

This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.

So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.

QFT this guy knows what he's talking about. for a perfect current example look at half life 2 (as stated) and how the details in the maps scale down depending what version of dx your card is capable of. not only lighting but also simple things like grass on the ground, water types etc etc.

one of the biggest cheats in online gaming in cs was to have a lower dx card so you dont get the blind/sway effects from grens as your card couldnt reproduce it.

some people should realise that selling modems in PC World doesnt make you 'in the compluter biz' and actually listen to guys like this.

rollntider · Sep 05, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by Sentential

You couldnt be more wrong and I actually "am in the computer biz". Here's the deal, the way that DX10 uses shaders requires a graphics card with a unified pipeline. However a DX10 card can run DX9 applications and in addition all DX builds contain the files from previous versions enabling people to run older versions.

If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.

This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.

So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.

amen, you were able to post before I was....good post...

Numa Pompilius · Sep 05, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

How about Guild wars 2, The MMO with 200 levels, multiple class change types, mounts, non instanced maps and free server wide PvP?

You'd want that?
I wouldn't.

big freddy · Sep 05, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Psh! They cant stop the series yet. I still have to get my rain forest/South American inspired campeign. =P

There is no way they can stop without letting me have a monkey for a pet. I simply refuse the thought!

Age · Sep 05, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

As far as I know, this rumor was started by one of the previews stating that this would be the last of a three-part storyline. Hinting that the controlling evil behind Prophecies and Factions would finally be met in Nightfall. If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.

This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront.

I hope not that this won't be part of this series as I would like to go here first.Then hopefully ascalon will be restored.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Tombs_of_Drascir

Omega X · Sep 05, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by majoho

You should have posted a link to the post, to me this just sounds like you are starting such a rumor.

Sorry.

Here ya go: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...700&pid=932734

The guy didn't report where he originally heard it. But one other person in this thread heard something similar to that effect.

Horseman Of War · Sep 05, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53

1. only star wars geeks and lotr nerds would look at this as a trilogy.
2. considering your other posts around here, and being so judgemental of others', you sound like a hipocrite for spreading such worthless news
3. what, exactly, about the "graphics" engine needs changed? Comparing this game (or any) to Oblivion is kind of pointless, seeing how Oblivion's engine is not only overly complicated/taxing on requirements- it also has the Havok to worry about (which is also rediculously flawed, and im not going to even get into it) coupled with the fact that there is STILL not a quality patch for the many bugs within the game (not counting the 200+ hour 'jittering items/stuck animation' glitch which makes the game unplayable after said time) I havent seen Titan quest, and I doubt the game is worth playing.

If the game was set up to be a trilogy, it would not be 'stand alone.' We might get some insight to new lore, but we wont get any kind of 'ending' to the first two chapters.

Ninna · Sep 05, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

I heard a rumor that Jeff Strain was leaving ANET.... (SARCASM)

anyone can start a rumor

Mister_Smiley · Sep 05, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

ahh i rumors, i rememeber back in the day, rumors of Diablo 2 and such, took them forever to get it out and then the expansion, patches and such. Then Diablo 3, which has yet to happen, got pushed back to next year supposibly. So i don't beleive in rumors intill the company says it. Till then sit back and relaxe and injoy Guildwars.

Sieg Sol · Sep 05, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by Sentential

You couldnt be more wrong and I actually "am in the computer biz". Here's the deal, the way that DX10 uses shaders requires a graphics card with a unified pipeline. However a DX10 card can run DX9 applications and in addition all DX builds contain the files from previous versions enabling people to run older versions.

If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.

This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.

So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.

Bro actually im 100% right... Unless The game dubs down DX10 to DX9 you arent running it. DX 9 hardware cannot run DX10 games. Why dont people read my posts instead of half of them??? And if they cant figure out how to do such they will need more than 1 version of the game. Dont believe me??? Read up on DX10's structure. Its built from the ground up. That is why in Windows Vista they are implementing DX9.0L. L stands for LEGACY. That is what windows Aero will be run off of. So i know what im talking about...

Again another person misunderstands me...

All you did was say what i said over again...

some guy · Sep 06, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48

According to Guikdwiki, there will be a compaign 4.

Lonk · Sep 06, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

I'm pretty sure they already said chapter 4 was in the planning stages at the very least, the rumors of gw ending is completely unfounded and probably started by trolls.

Mordakai · Sep 06, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Uhh, Chapter 4 was started four months ago - right after Factions was finished.

Remember: 2 teams, one year on each.

(I guess Nightfall team got 6 months off after Prophecy, or was busy adding content to Prophecy, or Nightfall has 18 months development? anyone know?)

Ninna · Sep 06, 2006, 11:05 AM // 11:05

yes it was stated that Chapter 4 development was started months ago

e3 preview from May 2006
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?s... ID=82&bhcp=1

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Due to their rapid release schedule, there are two teams working at Arena.net on the next two Campaigns so that new Campaigns can be released as quickly as possible while still maintaining a high level of content

(i.e. one team has been working on Campaign 3 for the last 3 or 4 months, and the other team just started on Campaign 4, so that each Campaign has about a year of development.).

but rumors by unknown people on messageboards gets peoples attention anyhow

WiLdFiRe111 · Sep 06, 2006, 11:13 AM // 11:13

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Originally Posted by ubermancer

Well, thatd certainly be fun. Id love the chance to fight a *GOD* ingame.

Perhaps itll open some final quest arc in the UW, after Restoring the Monuments, where you party up with a Firestorm-slinging Gwen *OHGODMOMMYITBURNSMAKEITSTOPAHHHH*, open the big-shiny-mystery gates before engaging Dhuum himself... fun.

OMGOMGOMG GWEN IS DHUUM!!!!!

Sam Stormwind · Sep 06, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

Yeh i think that it would be good if they started chapter 4 afresh no old characters. I would deffinently liven the game up would be a good move i think.

rollntider · Sep 06, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12

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Originally Posted by Sieg Sol

Bro actually im 100% right... Unless The game dubs down DX10 to DX9 you arent running it. DX 9 hardware cannot run DX10 games. Why dont people read my posts instead of half of them??? And if they cant figure out how to do such they will need more than 1 version of the game. Dont believe me??? Read up on DX10's structure. Its built from the ground up. That is why in Windows Vista they are implementing DX9.0L. L stands for LEGACY. That is what windows Aero will be run off of. So i know what im talking about...

Again another person misunderstands me...

All you did was say what i said over again...

No its a case where you did not explain yourself properly

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Originally Posted by Sieg Sol

lol bro DX10 is a whole new structure for windows Vista.

Not entirely true

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Originally Posted by Sieg Sol

Windows XP and DX9Hardware cannot run DX10.

True but that is not what people are calling you on.

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Originally Posted by Sieg Sol

They would need to create a dif engine for it, or take the extra time to implement it in the game to downgrade to DX9 engine, which would not be as easy. Trust me on this I know as im in the Computer Biz.

Um...and microsoft says this, it disputes what you say.

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Originally Posted by microsoft

Many of the advanced features and performance improvements of Direct 3D10 are provided by Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM), which is also required by Direct3D9Ex, an extended version of DirectX Graphics 9.0c used by Desktop Window Manager. ......
Because Direct3D 10 hardware will not be available immediately and the Vista Premium logo program does not require it, the first D3D10-compatible games will still provide a D3D9/D3D9Ex render path.

You stated one fact and a few misconceptions. DX10 is a new Direct 3d engine, but it will include legacy in it. So if you still run XP, you can still play DX10 games.(just with out bells and the whistles) It would be suicide for a game company to alienate a majority of their client base, since not everyone upgrades right away.

TiNkLeR · Sep 06, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Im going to start a rumour.

GuildWars will not be a part of NCsoft in the next chapter.

Now spread it wildfire, every stupid guy will believe, its cool.

bamm bamm bamm · Sep 06, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

In the recent PCFormat magazine (which I bought soley because it had an assassin on the cover

) says:

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Originally Posted by PCFormat, Sept 2006

All the best stories come in a trilogy and now the saga which began with Guild Wars: Prophecies (the full install of which you'll find in on this month's bonus disc), and continued with Factions, comes to a close in Nightfall. That's not to say this is the last chapter of Guild Wars, just the culmination of the Titans/Shiro story arc.