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Old Sep 28, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #21
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thats why nowadays i usually take guidles or close pals..

but i usually take a ranger instead of a necro maybee some day people will understand why
shhhh they arent cool enough to know that.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #22
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shhhh they arent cool enough to know that.
LOL mum's the word
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03   #23
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Well theres a few ways really:

Buy an additional copy of GW, buy a laptop. Party your own Monk/SS duo and enter UW and learn how to control 2 coms at once.

OR

Learn to solo with SB monk

OR

Duo with your friends.

asking the community for a solution regarding farming/trading scams is like throwing a stone into an ocean.

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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20   #24
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These "Asian Monks" as you called it are the worst of the Sweat shop Farmer monks in reality.

To maximize the profit of ecto farming, they carry a necro in to pay some of the cost, then ditch them at the aataxes to Smite farm.

Simple solution is only go with ENGLISH SPEAKING monks. This minimizes how many of these you run into.

You can read up on asian gold farming companies in many magazines and such. Even the PC Gamer with the Grey Giant code has a little article in it, where some of the more honest gold farmers talk about how most of them are like this, disrespecting other gamers.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #25
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I have yet to duo farm UW. I have however, trio farmed UW with trapping. It's a lot harder to scam a person when all three players need the other two to be effective.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36   #26
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These "Asian Monks" as you called it are the worst of the Sweat shop Farmer monks in reality.

To maximize the profit of ecto farming, they carry a necro in to pay some of the cost, then ditch them at the aataxes to Smite farm.

Simple solution is only go with ENGLISH SPEAKING monks. This minimizes how many of these you run into.

You can read up on asian gold farming companies in many magazines and such. Even the PC Gamer with the Grey Giant code has a little article in it, where some of the more honest gold farmers talk about how most of them are like this, disrespecting other gamers.
Agreed. This running off to the smites thing has happened several times for me. One thing to help id the non english speaking monks are....

1) blind invites
2) they say nothing once you are in the party and instantly open the trade window
3) tatoo armor, MOST causal farmers/actual players don't like the looks of tatoo armor and have since bought factions in order to get new monk armor with +energy that is more asceticly pleasing.

People who still have tatoo armor are either
a) people who don't own factions
b) people who are poor
c) people who like the tatoos
d) sweatshop farmers who don't care about character customization, but about profit

A) and B) are also generally bad signs. I'd perfer a 55er who is as obessed with this game as I am and thus owns both campaigns. Also, a 55er who is poor obviously hasnt' been 55ing for long... So A and B are more inexperience indications then anything else.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 05:06 AM // 05:06   #27
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Most guild have at least one 55 monk with Spellbreaker. The best way to avoid a scam is to go in with a Guildie you trust, or a person who's been on your friend's list for awhile.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55   #28
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People who still have tatoo armor are either
a) people who don't own factions
b) people who are poor
c) people who like the tatoos
d) sweatshop farmers who don't care about character customization, but about profit

A) and B) are also generally bad signs. I'd perfer a 55er who is as obessed with this game as I am and thus owns both campaigns. Also, a 55er who is poor obviously hasnt' been 55ing for long... So A and B are more inexperience indications then anything else.
OMG people who have tattoo armour might.... like tattoo armour ALERT THE MEDIA!
what a load of crap. i got tattoo armour because i like it... simple as.
doesn't mean anything. i wear my tats when i 55 UW because.... i want to.
i'm not poor, i own factions, and i like tats. same probably goes for a lot of people.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53   #29
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I have an SS Necro and refuse to do two man teams with 55s in the UW anymore. Most I've met are genuinely nice guys, but the rare few that are scammers and general assholes have turned me off to doing it ever again. I've got enough gold to keep me satisfied and don't need the frustration.

PS - I have a monk with tattoos (not a 55) also because I like the look. Sorry, HawkofStorms, but you're waaay off.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 12:06 PM // 12:06   #30
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OMG people who have tattoo armour might.... like tattoo armour ALERT THE MEDIA!
what a load of crap. i got tattoo armour because i like it... simple as.
doesn't mean anything. i wear my tats when i 55 UW because.... i want to.
i'm not poor, i own factions, and i like tats. same probably goes for a lot of people.
So you'd be option C.....

But... what is monk with no pants? Gotta have pants.... and shoes
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25   #31
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People who still have tatoo armor are either
a) people who don't own factions
b) people who are poor
c) people who like the tatoos
d) sweatshop farmers who don't care about character customization, but about profit

A) and B) are also generally bad signs. I'd perfer a 55er who is as obessed with this game as I am and thus owns both campaigns. Also, a 55er who is poor obviously hasnt' been 55ing for long... So A and B are more inexperience indications then anything else.
a) I own Factions
b) I'm not poor
c) I don't like tatoos much, but I do like them more than Shing Jea or KC armors
d) I am not a sweatshop farmer
e) my monk has 6.7 million expirience

The reason I wear tatoo armor is simple - I have grown used to it. I mean, I *have* been wearing it for well over a year now. One more reason is that I consider them "farming armor" of my monk. When she's not farming, she slips back into her comfy 15k kurzick jacket and 15k saintly pants.

In order to combet this kind of generalization it would be nice to add a new title track based on expirience. Say, 1 rank in title for every million xp.

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But... what is monk with no pants? Gotta have pants.... and shoes
Uhmmm... Ascetic maybe?
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05   #32
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my monk has 6.7 million expirience
and now the pissing contest begins...


the answer has already been stated countless times..

if you want a good run take guildies.. if you dont have guildies either get some. or make a pal that will go down with ya whenever your on.

mods please close this thread before it turns into a my monks bigger than yours kinda deal.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:10 PM // 13:10   #33
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i've had monk tats since the game came out basically. extra energy for the win. that extra bit of armour will prolong my life for about 1,3 seconds. although some nerd now will come out with the stats. actually 37 dps at 60 AL will give you blah blah blah.

it's like saying people who were the pig armour only wear it because

1) they can't afford 15k plate
2) they haven't got to granite citadel
3) don't want to waste money
4) like the pig armour
5) THEY R SCAMMING NOOB!!111!!!
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11   #34
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My /mo has more than twice that But every time I try to solo, there's an Asian soloer in my group that takes all my loot :S

Anyways... go with a friend/guildie, not only will you be assured of loot splitting etc, but you'll be more co-ordinated and be able to complete a smoother run.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12   #35
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I suggestion find one or more monks -- friend, guildies, family -- who you know and trust, and work with them exclusively. 55/SS UW runs require trust and coordination that usually isn't possible with random strangers.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16   #36
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and now the pissing contest begins...
Get off your high horse, please. I was just making point about his "not expirienced" argument.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #37
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these are generalizations, not facts, but my ss has not had good UW farming experiences with monks whose names are "Love" and who can only seem to say "50/50" and "go go".

i normally farm with a guildie nowadays, work schedules permitting.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #38
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Yeah, I ve had loads of scammers and still am doing it... you cant do anything about it, but bit of advice to you...

Dont give 500g to something that doesnt have a guild tag and doesnt say anything else but, 50/50 and pay me. ( bot)

2) If they are good and dont scam you, add to friends list
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48   #39
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This almost happened to my brother once, he called me down to have a look at the 55hp monk he was with (was asking me why he was acting funny) , i twigged just as the monk tried to kill him, we ran back and forth between the attaxes and smites for about 25 mins, the monk was swearing at me for the entire duration, if you know anything about running and agrro control you can easly avoid a single hit, eventually he gave up and we finished the run, oh yeah, i could have bit the 500g and done a run and and a half by then, but its the principal :P


My Solutions:
Play Tank
Go with guidies
Play with pugs, but if they dont use SB, then let them die by the grasps (Without SV Good luck getting SoJ Up)

(Or , let them live, and kill you, and then go AFK and watch tv, you'll get 1K+ From money drops, so its free money)

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Old Sep 29, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23   #40
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Very well said above, and funny also lol.

Yeah let them use SoJ without sv ^^.
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