Curse

Horseman Of War · Oct 05, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by audioaxes

there have been drops in ppl playing pve and pvp way before these changes occured
im opposed to the whole 6v6 idea and im sure some ppl will quit HA when this happens but it wont be that much considering the ppl who have already left

those who've already done alot of pvp it gets kinda old, you can only win so many hoh's and gvg so much until some people get a bit bored

the problem with pve:
the end game is horrible
what on earth is there to do after you passed the main missions? i believe the many who left pve are those who just realized, "ok i got my leet armor and weapons now what?...."
and i doubt throwing on more missions and quests solves anything, they get repetitive
they can try pvp but ra gets dull fast and its pretty difficult to try to enjoy yourself in gvg and ha as a new player

/disagree entirely

Ghull Ka · Oct 05, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Good christ, if you don't want to play Guild Wars then DON'T. Guild Wars is not "ending" just because you personally may have run out of neat things to do or got bored.

I bought Guitar Hero and played through it. I loved it. Had lots of fun. When I got to the end, did I freak out and say "oh noz, guitar hero is dying!" or did I just find another game to play?

Jeeeez. Enjoy the game or quit the game, I don't care which, just pick one.

killer_sss · Oct 05, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

personally i see nothing wrong with ending the indefinate priced items with cool skins and perfect mods. they are fixing the economy. it is near the same as what happened when they changed from the constant increase and decrease of runes/materials. you could buy low and at a different time sell high. they are allowing more players to be able to afford good items for both pve and pvp.

with the change to heros ascent i am all for it. there is kind of a general progression in the game lower arenas(not so much any more but still somewhat), then random arenas, team arenas, heros ascent, gvg

with the change now to 6v6 it will be a change for team size. guild battles will be drastically different from heros because of the size change. it will still be an effective tool in progression though. also im not sure where 1/3vs1/3will fit in for build skills. probably focus more on developing builds rather than team work. so probably some where arroung Ra/Ta

im looking foward to these changes. there will always be ways to make cash and if you cant adapt you don't belong trying to manipulate/play with economy in the first place

MMSDome · Oct 05, 2006, 08:18 PM // 20:18

lol i really dont egt the point in making more then 1 thread like this. They should merge all the threads and title it "Cry me a river thread!"

I mean honestly, if they kept the game the same that would get boring and repel everyone. Its like saying keep the same songs playing on the radio and never get new ones, itas boring and dumb. I like all the changes, its something new to the game and not the same old boring thing.

Changes are good and make the game stay fun rather then having the SoS that would be getting as old as the players complaining about it.

ADDED: The game is definetly not ending its on the verge of getting even better. Lets hope your negativaty can end.

Akhilleus · Oct 05, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

i look forward to some changes, and think others could pose some issues.
i just hope that whatever anet does, they do it right, and not adopt the "damn the consequences" mindset.
for example; the heros i think will add an interesting new element to the guildwars gameplay, but at the same time, could lead to the downfall of the ever so rare skilled PuG that leads to numerous new additions to your flist and sometimes guild roster. they could also cause the "OMG MY HERO BUILD IS BETTER THAN YOURS!" arguments. i just hope anet considered the downsides to new implimentations, kept them in mind, and developed a system to keep the fallout to a minimum should something go wrong.
i tend to adopt a mindset of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." most game companies dont activly initiate stuff that will ruin their games, they do it by accident.
so while i welcome the idea of some changes, i just hope they get it right.

ChildeOfMalkav · Oct 05, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

As others have said, change is necessary. If you dont like change then maybe you shouldnt be playing an MMO because these types of games are ALWAYS changing. If you dont like change and are easily depressed by them then yes maybe you should quit.

I never understood why people make threads like these. It's basically saying, "I dont like the changes so I'm going to threaten to quit." If you're going to quit, then just do it. Dont make a sob story about. The people who do stay won't care one bit.

I mean just look at the title of this thread. IS GW coming to an end? Give me a break.

I DUB THIS A FLAMEBAIT THREAD!

Horseman Of War · Oct 05, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by supaet

sighz, while you're all at it, to make your pve chars pvp ready? USE COLLECTORS! USE GREENS, you don't NEED chaos axe or whatever crap

technically, the Chaos Axe does chaos damage which is why its special (aside from the skin).

but yes I agree with your point.

Badboy Thrasher · Oct 05, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

As for with my guild, we do all kinds of events, eg. green capping, exploration, bonus master for the protector titles, FoW/UW non 55/SS runs, and so on. Some people might think this is fun and I have to higly recommend it to everyone.

Akhilleus · Oct 05, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

technically, the Chaos Axe does chaos damage which is why its special (aside from the skin).

but yes I agree with your point.

wrong, they do slashing.

Fluffyx · Oct 05, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by Franco

Hello.

The discussion here is about the future of old guildwars players.

Due to the changes happening in the future, lets start with Heroes ascent.

Lots of people that I know and people that I hear in the forums and some guilds are disbanding or leaving guildwars after the 6vs6 happens.

So why change?

Now about the inscriptions salvage. After Nightfall economy and high end selling will end. Which means many people are already thinking or leaving guildwars because there will be nothing else to do for them.

So why change ?

Nightfall will atract new players but will repel old players ... Guildwars is already a fantastic game as it is, Factions didnt bring any changes so why are they doing it now?

How many people are complaining about the HA system and the prices of certain items to make this happen?

What does everyone think about this?

If you're against this changes or agree with them, Sign here.

I think that some of the changes might be a nice change like 6v6 in HA will be a nice change. Instead of nerfing skills they're nerfing HA builds, Which is a little bit better IMO.

The new salvage option if it is what most people think it is will kill the inherent mods market, people will always buy gold items with a low req and a nice skin for over 100k. Its just the way of the game.

And Factions did bring about many changes, such as +5 energy weapons anyone?
Killed the HoD market which was insanely ridiculous.

I have been playing GW since it was released and these will not stop me from playing.

Blackhawk · Oct 05, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

QFT on slashing and I've never personally seen one that does Chaos Damage, I know its a bit crap but I was given it when I started playing as my original axe was even crappier and it's got sentimental value, plus I managed to kill a quite a few charr with it

Knightsaber Sith · Oct 05, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

I believe chaos axes did do chaos dmg in the Prophecies beta though.

supaet · Oct 05, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

akhilleus beat me to it.

but that's the funniest thing ever, chaos axe does chaos dmg. haha, no offense. But it proves one thing about this game which I love. No matter what skin, they do the same dmg. You do not NEED rare skin. rare skin only COOL when they're are RARE. If you can make any gold ...(insert skin) a 15^50, then that skin is not RARE nor COOL any more. Why people like crystalline? cause it looks nice? um...what about brute sword, ugliest crap ever. why people want it? cause it's RARE. If you've being wanting a 15^50crystalline sword all your gw life, and now you can get it for cheap. But you will want want it. it's not RARE nor COOL as it used to be. When items have no rarity, there is no point in trading, no goal in item collection. That will RUIN the point of rare skin. Note that does not ruin the economy. But in the end, when you can get an item that you always wanted for cheap, you will not be any happier, because that item has lost its value to everyone, including yourself.

gr3g · Oct 05, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

To those quitting GW over the HA and weapon mod changes, all I can say is: bye. See ya. Hope you enjoy your next game.

Cracko · Oct 05, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

ArenaNet most likely thought, WOW, 6Vs6 was such a great event! But really.. People only played it because of the double fame.

And about the Inscriptions. We dont know WHAT Inscriptions are going to be yet. We didnt have an official announcement by Anet that it actually was the 15^50 type of thing.

Ganik Thress · Oct 05, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

This is the case in all games where strong communities have become intertwined within and outside of the game. People become so attached to the game with all of everything they may have mentally or physically gained in the process, only to feel cheated by change. My advise: Don't fret.

Blackhawk · Oct 05, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

I believe chaos axes did do chaos dmg in the Prophecies beta though.

Possibly, would certainly fit the description a bit better, but like I said I havent seen one myself, but doesnt mean to say they dont exist - anyone here got one that does chaos dmg or did they all get changed or always been slashing?

Fluffyx · Oct 05, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Possibly, would certainly fit the description a bit better, but like I said I havent seen one myself, but doesnt mean to say they dont exist - anyone here got one that does chaos dmg or did they all get changed or always been slashing?

Chaos axes don't do chaos damage. Don't confuse the name for what kind of damage it does. Thats like saying a laser axe would do laser damage.

winkgood · Oct 05, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by supaet

You do not NEED rare skin. rare skin only COOL when they're are RARE. If you can make any gold ...(insert skin) a 15^50, then that skin is not RARE nor COOL any more. Why people like crystalline? cause it looks nice? um...what about brute sword, ugliest crap ever. why people want it? cause it's RARE. If you've being wanting a 15^50crystalline sword all your gw life, and now you can get it for cheap. But you will want want it. it's not RARE nor COOL as it used to be. When items have no rarity, there is no point in trading, no goal in item collection. That will RUIN the point of rare skin. Note that does not ruin the economy. But in the end, when you can get an item that you always wanted for cheap, you will not be any happier, because that item has lost its value to everyone, including yourself.

Everyone read this. Finally, I found another individual who understands this concept. Well said, btw. I especially like the last line "you will not be any happier, because that item has lost its value to everyone, including yourself."

Clone · Oct 05, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47

For the 6v6, I could care less. I gave up on that place long ago because of all the elitist pricks anyway. It was truly one of the worst communities I've seen in any game, and another reason I'm happy to see Nightfall have a stronger PvE foucs.

For new salvage options, I'm all for them. The 100k+1750E thing has gone way too far. Half of the stuff these people try to sell is rubbish, unidentified or otherwise. The other half, while good, certianly isn't "spend three months farming to afford" quality. Seems too many have forgotten that this is a game.