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Spike · Oct 07, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I wonder how much blizzard paid south park to be on thier show. They must be geting REALLY desprate for publicty. As for leaveing it all behind. I've done it before when I got bored and will do it again if and when it happends.

azerdain · Oct 07, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

How many of you have a bedpan like Eric Cartmans?

Guardian of the Light · Oct 07, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus

Those are sad perspectives of life.
Isolating your self from the real world to the point of becoming completely anti-social is not healthy.
These kind of games are just like drugs, they provide you with a great escape of reality, an ilusionary world.
As long as you dont let them take you as far as they took that south korean man in my earlier post then youl do fine.
Just dont let it get to your head

What is healthly?

That statement I said can be good or bad.

To me it means you shouldn't concentrate on "titles" we work for that don't mean anything at all in the long run. Just enjoy life with everything you love and be thankful for what you have.

But it's different for everybody.

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

All this ridicule of video gamers as having no life, it's as if there is a standard "life" that we measure from. What exactly constitute as a life? how can anyone make the claim that their life is what we should measure up to.

All of our perspectives of life are different, may it be sad to you, or optimistic to others, they are all true to ourselves. We don't need to have our life subjugated to meet this fantasy standard of life.

It's not our place to call another video gamer "anti-social", just as is calling another religious person "delusional". They are a measurement of our difference of opinion, our difference in values, and mind. Its ok to think gaming for 6 hours is a waste of time, but we hold NO right to reprimand another person for doing so.

Relambrien · Oct 07, 2006, 02:56 AM // 02:56

The term "life" when used in the context of "that guy has no life" generally has this definition:

Social experiences in person with friends, family, etc., often involving leaving one's place of residence.

And since our society is, well, social, people who are not very social are looked down upon, as if their very life has been taken away due to lack of in person social interactions.

On the concept of just being able to quit, I probably could. Guild Wars isn't the only thing that keeps me entertained you know. I could spend the time I play Guild Wars working up the courage to ask out the girl I like

Who knows what would happen if I did that?

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Relambrien

And since our society is, well, social, people who are not very social are looked down upon, as if their very life has been taken away due to lack of in person social interactions.

I can say that I look at religious people with similar pity. But then I have to ask you, how much socialization must we do to applease your definition of life? You say they don't social enough? They say you social too much... who knows? Is there a norm? Is there a standard?

But I certainly don't "look down" on someone who likes to spend time by themselves.

Socializing is a form of activity no different than video gaming, hobbies, or leisure pursuits. They're no more and no less important, the only difference is that they are more prevalent because it is the first form of activity a human learns. It would be misleading to believe that it holds more value than anything else, because if it does. Pity the blind, the mute and the deaf.

Vahn Roi · Oct 07, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

I'm addicted to GW, I play far too much for my own good. Yes I know it's a waste of time, but I enjoy doing it...

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Before anyone takes offense to my last comment, my point is that there is no measure to how much socializing a person must do. People either socialze more than you, or less than you, and just because it's less does not automatically categorize them as anti-social. It's a mere perspective. Because no one knows where they rank on the scale of socialization.

By the way, being anti-social points to a specific pattern of behavior in which the person not only avoids social activities, but goes out of their way to create a hostile response to disrupt any attempt at socialization.

explodemyheart · Oct 07, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

I'm addicted to GW, I play far too much for my own good. Yes I know it's a waste of time, but I enjoy doing it...

Waste of time is relative. What you consider to be a waste of time may not be for another and vice versa.

If you really want to break it down, everything is a waste of time. People go to school to learn skills to get a career for the rest of their life (in "ideal" situations) just to make money, maybe have a family and die. If you spend your life doing the things that you enjoy and make you happy, then as far as I'm concerned, it's not a waste.

Truong · Oct 07, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

At the moment, I could. Before, no, I couldn't.

It was my "anti-drug", and it still is, but I'm moving on to a more healthy lifestyle.

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Additionaly, if you are on this forum, it is most likely that you are not anti-social.

Trvth Jvstice · Oct 07, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

What a bunch of goofy crap! lol. Social, antisocial... whatever-- And Diablo, why the jab at religion? It had nothing to do with any of the previous posts.

We're talking about a game here. Out of the many choices of addictions, I'd say being addicted to Guild Wars isn't that much of a big deal.

To the spouses, friends, parents of anyone addicted to Guild Wars: on the computer, click start, control panel, add and remove programs, Guild Wars, remove, yes.

EDIT: Diablo, looking at your earlier post, you mention life leading into oblivion. By that I assume you mean non-existance?- -Also-In your posts, you try to persuade people that simply because life is so short that what you are and do in life doesn't matter. No way, the values and beliefs you have in life are passed down through generations and therefore hundreds if not thousands of years. It's passed down through your children and the people close to you. What you are and do does matter.

Edit: Removed insulting remarks about Diablo----My apologies.

Alpha Moth · Oct 07, 2006, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by Diablo™

All people value their time spent differently, whether it be for pleasure or for productivity, it is based on our own perceptions of importance. Afterall, when we die, what is it all worth?

What is tangible in life that we may take with us into oblivion? Time and chance happens to us all, just as mountains will erode, so will our existence here on earth. A Saint's lifetime differs not from anyone here on this forum, after a thousand years, neither of our names or accomplishments will be remembered. As Marcus Arelius wrote in Meditations, "the yawning gulf of time behind you and before you at another infinity to come. In this eternity, the life of a baby of three days and the life of a nestor of three centuries are as one."

Our life is too short to worry about how other people judge our time, you spend it pursuing the things you desire, and nothing, not even the whole world, can tell you otherwise.

This is pretty much the way i see life as.

But, I wouldn't mind being remember for a thousand years, just as the ancient people and gods are remember for more then a thousands of years.

But, i'd rather live a long and happy life, a life worth living. Then a short life and be remember for a thousand years.

arcanemacabre · Oct 07, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

As far as anyone knows, we only live once. This is it. Soak it up.

If playing Guild Wars is what makes you happy, who is anyone to refute that?

On the other hand, if you're still playing Guild Wars and you're sick of it, maybe you should step back and take a look at yourself. Go and be merry. Do what makes you happy.

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

What a bunch of goofy crap! lol. Social, antisocial... whatever-- And Diablo, why the jab at religion? It had nothing to do with any of the previous posts.

We're talking about a game here. Out of the many choices of addictions, I'd say being addicted to Guild Wars isn't that much of a big deal.

To the spouses, friends, parents of anyone addicted to Guild Wars: on the computer, click start, control panel, add and remove programs, Guild Wars, remove, yes.

They both contain a large group of people who've devoted a large sum of their time in the pursuit of something intangible. One is based in electronic domain, while the other is based on inner faith and spiritual fulfillment. And for your information, the point was made for Relambrien.

...Because in no way what I have said is degrading a religious person, I am supporting what people do with their own time, whether it be for hobby, leisure, or religious practice. The key word here is not "religion", its "Time spent".

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by Alpha Moth

This is pretty much the way i see life as.

But, I wouldn't mind being remember for a thousand years, just as the ancient people and gods are remember for more then a thousands of years.

But, i'd rather live a long and happy life, a life worth living. Then a short life and be remember for a thousand years.

As do we all. I didn't mean for my post to sound like a negative perspective on life. We should all try to live as long as possible, enjoy our time here, and have fun.

Ilya Khan · Oct 07, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

I was sick of of Prophecies 6 months into it but kept playing simply because of the friends I had made. I really hated factions after 3-4 weeks but kept playing that because of guildies. I have cut back on my GW playing from 6-8 hours a day to 1-2 every 3-4 weeks or so. I do it mainly to keep in touch with the good friends I have made. The real question is whether or not I will buy Nightfall. If I do, I will be entertained with the game for a few weeks and then probably get sick of it. If I don't then I save $50 and can still chat with my guild friends. Oh yeah...WoW sucks.

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

EDIT: Diablo, looking at your earlier post, you mention life leading into oblivion. By that I assume you mean non-existance?- -Also-In your posts, you try to persuade people that simply because life is so short that what you are and do in life doesn't matter. No way, the values and beliefs you have in life are passed down through generations and therefore hundreds if not thousands of years. It's passed down through your children and the people close to you. What you are and do does matter.

Oblivion, as in the "mist", the afterlife, or however we each percieve it, not necessary non-existence (although the later, is what I do believe in... but that is purely my own belief)

The values you cherish are your own, they may be passed down to your children, and their children beyond. But they all die, every single person, dies. Nothing is forever, as time consumes all of which is remembered today... everything will be forgottened... (in this universe at least).

But I agree that what you do does matter, because I never said that it didn't.

What I'm saying, is that your values, are most important to only ONE person in this world, and above all else, that one person is yourself. YOU are the judge of your time, what you value, what you cherish, is for yourself to judge.

Ken Dei · Oct 07, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45

You've never seen addiction rates like those associated with Entropia Universe. Trust me.

Note: DO NOT PLAY THAT GAME! EVER!

Diablo™ · Oct 07, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Before this topic strays any further.

The point I hope everyone gets from me is that: If you truly LOVE playing a game, ANY game, may it be Guild Wars or WoW. Do it, by all means.

Your time can only be wasted if you spend your life doing what you DON'T want to do.

Because you'll never get a second chance...