Oct 04, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18
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#41
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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This update is trash, a bunch of pvers who only HAed on the weekend voted in some retarded poll,
"zomg i vimwayed R7 6v6 pwns"
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19
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#42
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Originally Posted by K U J A
I say im proud of Anet for making the change. For all of you Complaining about the Thumperway, Necro Spike, Smiteway, etc. this is pretty much what weve been seing in 8v8 HA anyway, so what difference does it make. Now well have a chance to try something new. About the double fame, it doesnt rly matter, cuz matches dont last more than 2-4 (most of the time at least) mins so the fame will be flowing for the good grps ( just hope ur one of them).
GOOD CHANGE IMO!!
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You obviously don't do a whole lot of HA. Builds are taking a major swing in HA atm. Ritualists are really starting to find a place in a lot of builds, as are assassins, That's out the door now, no room for pseudo-healer when you've only got 6 spots.
And No, I don't want, nor like 2-4 minute fights. The best fights are the ones that go back and forth a few times before someone finally pulls ahead enough to turn it into a victory. I'm sure most people who aren't running some gimmick build to farm fame would agree with this.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20
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#43
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Frost Gate Guardian
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I think they should either put a new 8v8 or switch between 6v6 and 8v8 for HA say monthly.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20
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#44
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Debbie Downer
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: N/Me
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Why are they postponing the Green Drop Weekend? I bet this change will cause many PvP players to convert.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23
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#45
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Missouri
Guild: Obon
Profession: D/P
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great now fame means nothing, and ive done everything in pve...hmm...not smart
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26
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#46
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Group Therapy
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xioden
The announcement is a load of crap. The only reason 6v6 was as popular as it was, was due to 2x fame So you could bet your grandmother that was what drew all the people in. ALL that was needed was some new maps and some variations to game types.
"6-man in time will bring more build variation" Sorry, but no. Less people=Less room for variation. People Think there's too many IWAY/VIMWAY now? It will be the exact same way as soon as people figure out what works and switch to that setup instead.
And no, I don't want to go to GvG for my 8v8. GvG is a COMPLETELY different style of play from HA. I don't not GvG because HA doesn't require a guild (Though I'm sure there are a few out there who do) I HA because I like the playstyle there, just like the people in SO many of the HA guilds out there.
Of the 8 guildies on line now for me, 6 of them Said they didn't like it/Couldn't wait for 8v8 again, 1 Said it wasn't bad, 1 wasn't here for it.
GvG guilds? You can bet your grandfather they'll like 6v6. Gives them something to do when they're a few short of 8 people and they don't want to guest a couple person. So yea it's nice, but we sure as hell better not completely butcher a game type to cater to the GvG crowd.
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You just said everything i wanted to say. Best post ever.
As for Anet... thx a lot... now i cant even chose what type of 8v8 i want to play...
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27
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#47
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Portugal
Guild: Group Therapy [HUG]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xioden
You obviously don't do a whole lot of HA. Builds are taking a major swing in HA atm. Ritualists are really starting to find a place in a lot of builds, as are assassins, That's out the door now, no room for pseudo-healer when you've only got 6 spots.
And No, I don't want, nor like 2-4 minute fights. The best fights are the ones that go back and forth a few times before someone finally pulls ahead enough to turn it into a victory. I'm sure most people who aren't running some gimmick build to farm fame would agree with this.
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/AGREE
XIODEN says it all...
why do i have to go play GvG when i want and like to play 8v8 HA the way it is?
When i first bought GW it had 2 4v4 modes, 2 8v8 modes... now they are taking 1 of the pvp modes that made me spend lots of cash in this game... doesnt this goes against the EULA ? Or does the EULA only gives rights to ANet and nothing to the End User ?
whatever... all i want to say is what i already said before: we loose 1 game mode to gain a new one that most of my friends and community that plays the game with me is not happy about...
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28
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#48
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brazil
Guild: dTe - Do The Evolution
Profession: N/Mo
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I say we wait for Nightfall release...who know, there might be a 8x8 "random battle" like HA was...
As for this 6x6 change....HA needed BADLY some changes...it was the same thing for over a year now and I had quite enough of those maps and playstyle...this might be an AWESOME change or simply will keep things near the same, either way, I fail to see the bad points about it.
Latter.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32
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#49
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Portugal
Guild: Group Therapy [HUG]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scavenger Rage
I say we wait for Nightfall release...who know, there might be a 8x8 "random battle" like HA was...
As for this 6x6 change....HA needed BADLY some changes...it was the same thing for over a year now and I had quite enough of those maps and playstyle...this might be an AWESOME change or simply will keep things near the same, either way, I fail to see the bad points about it.
Latter.
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Have u even played HA in the past year? I play HA for lots of months and almost every 1 or 2 weeks, the metagame changes... yes, iway and all that crap is still there, but thats not the point...
Take a look at guilds that play HA... like iA, ugly, milkyway pirates ... and others... are they playing vim / iway / bspike? .... cmon...
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37
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#50
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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This is what will happen many pvers and gvgers will play 6v6 for the beginning, many of the good/exp haers will quit, the gvgers and pvers will eventually go back to what they already like, and HA will be dead its core player base having left it.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40
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#51
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Krytan Explorer
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Steel Phoenix [StP]
Profession: N/
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Great...
1) Their going to be adding in two new classes, and take away two spots for HA.
2) The *ONLY* reason 6v6 was popular was the double fame, now ANET are taking away somthing alot of Pvp'ers have put time and effort into.
3) Why the hell not just add new maps? Why take 2 slots away?
First time I've ever been seriously pissed at ANET. This is shit.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44
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#52
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Purveyor of Useless Info
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stav lad
The only reason is was populour at the weekend is that u get double fame
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QFT. *Sigh*
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44
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#53
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]
Profession: W/E
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45
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#54
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Sunset City
Guild: Ark Royal [ARK]
Profession: A/R
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LOL, do you people really think that no one will ever play HA anymore, and that fame means absolutely nothing now, and that Guild Wars is ruined and is going to fold in the next few weeks, just because they changed HA to 6v6 from 8v8?
z0Mg the sky is falling!
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45
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#55
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Forge Runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilanthe
Elem AoE fleeing effect: OMFG Anet you suck, I'm gonna quit this stupid game !
Warrior Armor/Shield Nerf/Fix: OMFG Anet, you are ruining the game, I'm donne with this piece of crap !
6 vs 6 HA: Two words: GG Gaynet. 6-man metagame was complete crap. If they only changed the maps, i'd jump ecstatitcally and yell "wheeee!", but changing HA to 6-man will probably make me quit
There we go again. *sigh*
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Yeah, because I was totally complaining about warrior or ele nerf. Anet has done a lot of stupid shit in the past, but this is the first one that might make me leave the game if nightfall doesn't add some new interesting form of PvP.
The metagame during 6v6 was complete bullshit. I got sick of it in less than 2 days, even double fame didn't keep me in there. And now they'll permanently RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up HA? Excuse me, but when my favourite place in the game gets killed, GW suddenly becomes a lot less appealing.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45
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#56
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Ascalonian Squire
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my whole HA guild is against this, most of them are about to quit the game because Ha will never be the same, also only 6 people will make it booring, give us a 8v8 team arenas at least..
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49
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#57
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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oh noes...vimway =.=''
please dont double to fame payout.......
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50
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#58
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SeeK
Profession: W/E
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ANET and NCSOFT are the biggest morons i've ever seen in the world of games. I Paid for a game that have a mode like HA, with 8v8 not a stupid 6v6. Why would i prefer to play GvG instead of HA ? I like HA because you have 3 kinds of game modes, Deathmatch, King of the Hill and Capture the Relic, i like HA because i don't get bored of playing, the metagame changes a lot more than in GvG, those are reasons enough to prefer HA instead of GvG.
Now let's do a simple math operation :
Prophecies = 6 classes
Factions = +2 classes
Nightfall = +2 classes
That means that we have 10 classes and we have less places to use them, great. We are paying for new content, and they reduce the way you can use that content. Seems that they have great ideas.
ANET/NCSOFT u guys are the biggest pile of crap in the software market.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51
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#59
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Purveyor of Useless Info
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisan
LOL, do you people really think that no one will ever play HA anymore, and that fame means absolutely nothing now, and that Guild Wars is ruined and is going to fold in the next few weeks, just because they changed HA to 6v6 from 8v8?
z0Mg the sky is falling!
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It's not that. The problem I have with it is that this will seriously limit the builds that will be accepted. There will always be FOTM builds regardless, but think about it in these terms... As a primary monk, 8v8 HA has many different builds which require different monk builds, from boon prot, RC prot, WoH, BL, you name it. What I see happening with 6v6, will basically be "GLF Boon Prot." Sure I can play Boon Prot, and it's one of my favorite builds to play, but sheesh, I like some variety. 6v6 takes the variety factor down to nil imo, expecially considering there will now be 10 classes available and only 6 spots...gg.
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Oct 04, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51
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#60
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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if there are NEW maps, why not keep the existing ones and have one set 8v8 one set 6v6.
if there are NEW maps, why not keep the existing ones and have one set 8v8 one set 6v6.
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