Curse

malevolence · Oct 18, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

Most of the spanish people even dont know gw guru, or any other site like this, because they are lazy , they dont want to spend time reading guides ^^ , really I dont understand why, but I am member of a spanish guild, and believe me, every jerk that we found in our way lol. By the way they are also nice people in the spanish districts , but only a few.

I remember one time I was looking for taxi in cavalon for the deep, and one guy said to me that he will bring mr there for 3k LMAO ! I said to him no thanks, always people take me there for free, and sometimes for tips , but no for 3k. The guy just got mad and saying to me every kind of insults! and that was maybe 2 months ago, and if I dont put him into my ignore list, still he keep insulting me, what a annoying guy , and for nothing, I think he just enjoy annoying people lol, but one thing I know for sure, he will be into my ignore list forever =D .

In every game we can find people like this , I know is annoying, just ignore is the key, dont listen to them

cheers.

KurtBatz · Oct 18, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by Sim Hae

Ironic thing here is that monks leave becouse of the stupidity of other players. Might aswell start thinking about yourself then..

Not only is that in the top five of most pathetic flame attempts I've ever seen, you've just defended monk leavers. Way to go.

XvArchonvX · Oct 18, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

*sigh* it seems like someone has to toss up a thread like this once a week. It's like anytime someone has a bad day they have to come here and start ranting like it's a sign of a complete degredation of the human race or something.

As for your suggestion, it has been made MANY times, and if that was supposed to be the point of this thread, throwing up a title that makes some vague accusation of people being more rude than they used to be does little beyond show that you wish to whine because you had a bad day.

Sim Hae · Oct 18, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Well said Archon. All im saying is, think about yourself before start pointing finger at others. I bet everyone here have done something anoying to someone before.

Franco · Oct 18, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

*looks around* What? me ? Nah

Gun Pierson · Oct 18, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Well I left a group some 30 minutes ago and I'll tell you what happened. I needed to cap the ranger elite from the facet of nature in dragon's lair. I can easely do this with hench but a monkless pug invites me. I tell them I will help them out even to get the bonus but they should give me a minute when we come at the ranger dragon so I can cap. Guess what happened, they waited at the warrior facet but rushed in the portal when we killed the ranger facet. I warned them before though to wait a minute, but no. I zoned back, took hench and got the skill in no time.

KurtBatz · Oct 18, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Well I left a group some 30 minutes ago and I'll tell you what happened. I needed to cap the ranger elite from the facet of nature in dragon's lair. I can easely do this with hench but a monkless pug invites me. I tell them I will help them out even to get the bonus but they should give me a minute when we come at the ranger dragon so I can cap. Guess what happened, they waited at the warrior facet but rushed in the portal when we killed the ranger facet. I warned them before though to wait a minute, but no. I zoned back, took hench and got the skill in no time.

I've encountered more selfish assholes on that mission that any other.

They should change it, so the portal doesn't open until 30 seconds after you've killed the boss.

Maria The Princess · Oct 18, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

welcome to a PUG... enjoy your staying, if any misfortune occurs and you wish to make a complaint feel free to start a 100th thread about the same thing on a forum

Master Ikram · Oct 18, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Best cure for me is....I get my monk, go thunderhead keep/Hells Precipe with a monk from my guild/friend list and we just dance while the Invites roll

Ridiculed · Oct 18, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Humanity plz

Electric Sky · Oct 18, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

no matter what game it is you are playing, you will always meet some idiot. Thats a guarantee.

Mr_eX · Oct 18, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Maria The Princess · Oct 18, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Ikram

Best cure for me is....I get my monk, go thunderhead keep/Hells Precipe with a monk from my guild/friend list and we just dance while the Invites roll

lol my anguer managment is to go to THK, find the worse pug possible (you can tell) and monk for them... i get to yell at the wammos and be a total Btch

Minus Sign · Oct 18, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by KurtBatz

Every group I'm in, whenever we have a leaver, it always seems to be the monk. Almost without fail. It's as though it's a REQUIREMENT to be a jerkwad and leave half way through a mission if you're a monk.

As usual, alarm bells start ringing when I red threads like this. When I used to come in here see people say this, I'd feel bad for them that they had a bad PuG.

Not so much anymore.

Its not just one bad PuG monk, now is it KurtBatz? Its multiple PuGs, many different monks, and I'd be willing to bet that most of the leavers have said something to your group before they ragequit. Some "rude" comment about letting the warrior take agro or "OMG! Ele for the love of god kite!"

And since the common theme to these PuGs you play in is you, I have to ask: what are you doing to piss these guys off? How are you making their job phenominally harder than it has to be? Are you misrepresenting the groups objective when you chat spam for players (all too common ex: GLF Masters...but we're actually just trying to get through with the best team possible and have neither the intention, expierience or ability to get Masters)? What are you doing that makes monks leave your teams?

Now this post should not be taken as an endorsment for monk leavers (except when a group lies/misrepresents itself to get you into the group; when they do that then they've effectivly "broke contract" and all bets are off). There is a much better solution when one of the players in your PuG has absolutly no idea what he is doing and will not listen to instruction:

Let the noob die. Any mission can easily be completed with 6 players, most with 5. Many missions can be Mastered with 7. Mana-sinks force you to focus all your energy on them instead of the team. They hurt the team, not just you. But it becomes "your fault" when you let these players get to you. Your leaving hurts and pisses off all 7 members. Letting him go only really upsets one.

The other six members--if they're any good--know why this guy keeps dying. They can see his red bar drop like a stone as easily as you can and know that he's not kiting, self healing--managing himself in any way other than to spam offensive skills--and they know its not your fault. They know its not your job to heal just that one player. Its your job to heal all 8.

So do you job as best you can. If one player is constantly dying, the other 6 people will know why...and they won't blame you for it.

Oh a GW forum · Oct 18, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

I like taking my anger out on other people, it helps me relieve stress. It's the internet, if you're getting your feelings hurt then how are you ever gonna deal when people are jerks to you face to face?

TadaceAce · Oct 18, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Kurt Batz is prolly a lerroy wammo and isn't telling us, I'd leave too! I use henchmen, I'm not gonna lie, I am one of these "rude" people. I've been around this game long enough that things just click and when someone has a built that defies all reason and logic it pisses me off. Pve is incredibly easy, if your build is so bad that it bothers me in pve then you should quit life. I was one of those arrogant "I'm the man" healing hands wammos with a fiery dragon sword a long time ago, I excuse that, its just when I try to give them some advice and they snap back I let hell break loose.

Amen to the guy above me too, its just fun to tear apart people online and listen to them whimper.

WLlama · Oct 18, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Worst comes to worst...use henchies/guildies/heroes

I used to love taking PuGs to try to find a few more members for the guild every month but I've turned away from this due to the trend I'm seeing with fewer members responsive to requests. I think I'll start again in NightFall and see how it goes but at least I will have heroes that follow my commands just in case. [Side note: Sometimes, henchies aren't better though. The number of times I have said, "No! Don't go rez the war in the middle of that massive mob, you stupid henchie monk! Augh....big aggro...Run Away! Run Away!!" is depressing to count.]

Griff Mon · Oct 18, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

My most recent experience was with someone from my own alliance.

Was in a PUG group on a FoW run. Monk in the group has a familiar name and I look up the cape on our alliance sure enough the person is in my alliance.

I PM, hey, you are in ______, you are in my alliance.

Monk: Silence

I make a couple of more attempts to speak to the person, met by silence.

I finally announce to the group that the monk is in my alliance but is not speaking and therefore monks in their guild must be under a vow of silence. And this is met by, guess what, silence. I was hoping a smartass remark would get some kind of response.

I come to realize that this monk has not said a word during the whole time with this rather chatty group. Heals, rezs, stays out of trouble, but never responds or says a word.

It was all very bizzare.

Sir Mad · Oct 18, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minus Sign

As usual, alarm bells start ringing when I red threads like this. When I used to come in here see people say this, I'd feel bad for them that they had a bad PuG.

Not so much anymore.

Its not just one bad PuG monk, now is it KurtBatz? Its multiple PuGs, many different monks, and I'd be willing to bet that most of the leavers have said something to your group before they ragequit. Some "rude" comment about letting the warrior take agro or "OMG! Ele for the love of god kite!"

And since the common theme to these PuGs you play in is you, I have to ask: what are you doing to piss these guys off? How are you making their job phenominally harder than it has to be? Are you misrepresenting the groups objective when you chat spam for players (all too common ex: GLF Masters...but we're actually just trying to get through with the best team possible and have neither the intention, expierience or ability to get Masters)? What are you doing that makes monks leave your teams?

Now this post should not be taken as an endorsment for monk leavers (except when a group lies/misrepresents itself to get you into the group; when they do that then they've effectivly "broke contract" and all bets are off). There is a much better solution when one of the players in your PuG has absolutly no idea what he is doing and will not listen to instruction:

Let the noob die. Any mission can easily be completed with 6 players, most with 5. Many missions can be Mastered with 7. Mana-sinks force you to focus all your energy on them instead of the team. They hurt the team, not just you. But it becomes "your fault" when you let these players get to you. Your leaving hurts and pisses off all 7 members. Letting him go only really upsets one.

The other six members--if they're any good--know why this guy keeps dying. They can see his red bar drop like a stone as easily as you can and know that he's not kiting, self healing--managing himself in any way other than to spam offensive skills--and they know its not your fault. They know its not your job to heal just that one player. Its your job to heal all 8.

So do you job as best you can. If one player is constantly dying, the other 6 people will know why...and they won't blame you for it.

Yeah I agree with both parts of this post.

I mean: it's not directed against the OP: I don't know what happened and he may just have been incredibly unlucky. It also depends on where you're playing: nomatter what you can do, there are almsot always leavers / leechers in Aspenwood for example. However for me most of the people having this kind of problem fall in the same category than the players blaming PUGs for being always incompetant and unable to complete missions, etc.

I remember this guy who posted a topic about FoW and how he couldn't make it to the forgemaster with a PuG, after have attempted during 2 months. When I go to FoW (if we decide to do the forgemaster quests), we make it maybe 9 times out of 10. If you notice your team mates are not enough experienced in this area, lead the party and show them the path, which group to take first, where you must stop for patrols, etc. Of course sometimes there will be an idiot agroing everything and you will fail, but most of the time it will be ok.

The same goes for leavers. Sometimes you have a bitter boy in the team leaving for no reason. The last time it happened to me (a few days ago) we had a guy going for masters in some mission who abosultely wanted to lead the team. Everybody noticed he was doing a crappy job (he was telling us to attack the wrong mobs etc), and we all decided to ignore his "orders". After a few mins, he just told us "fine, as nobody wants to listen, i'm off" and poof. There is nothing to do in such cases.

But I also know that sometimes people left because of me, because I was tired or something and argued with them, whether I was right or wrong doesn't matter. Having a leaver doesn't happen often but I know when it does, half of the time I'm partially responsible.

Even if you have a bad player in the team, no need for being offensive. You're going to play with him only during 15 mins - that's not that long. I had missions screwed because of stupid argues like that. I remember this team in Arborstone. We had 2 eles. One of the them was using firestorm. OK that's a bad skill but still we were doing nicely. The other ele got crazy about him and wrote harsh comments. Everybody got pissed and 3 players left. For nothing because we would have easilly completed the mission. Just because someone found clever to start an argue with someone he will never see again when the mission will be over, who was not doing much good, but he was not doing much bad either.

Omega X · Oct 18, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Wow, Savio must be on vacation.