Curse

Samueldg · Oct 26, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

Get ready " Iway LFG 4 mission"......................

Jugalator · Oct 26, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by ignis

looks like anet bolloxed up again. one day they will understand that fuсking with players on a scale that large doesn't do the game any good, but it will be too late.

Look around you; people like the update, and Nightfall will be a hit like the rest of their chapters. Even the criticized Factions received a ton of gamers. I don't really know what future you're talking of.

skie88 · Oct 26, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

seems like im back to my illlusionary weapon now.... lucky being a mesmer..

led-zep · Oct 26, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

this is quite funny, boy am i glad i decided not to get nightfall and to think it was for the exact reason that anet dont know to leave things alone and brandish the nerf bat too often and for no good reason.

good call though anet, such a stupid nerf the day before nightfall so its too late for most to cancel.

basicly anet are going to ruin every single skill until both sides are bashing each other with sword and axes.

have they bought shares in blizzard cos they are making WoW seem so much more of an attractive option.

and to the pvp'ers getting smug, without the lure of pve there will be fewer and fewer pvp'ers and your side of the game will suffer too.

dwc89 · Oct 26, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20

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Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

Wow, again with this AoE BS

-If they wanna nerf any kind of solo farming so bad, at least give some decent loot to full teams, not 700 golds and 2 white non-max weapons from a mission, wich requires an hour now.

This would be nice, instead of a lvl 24 monster dropping a 10-15 sword or the like.

I really do hope that they are paying attention to the forums, most are not happy with the changes.

If it's enjoyable play, if not why bother. Waht part of that is not clear to Anet...........Duh! as my friends list has more inactive than active lately, have to see what this weekend brings. My guess is most won't be playing, gave up after factions.

ign - Huntress Velasca

ignis · Oct 26, 2006, 10:21 AM // 10:21

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Originally Posted by Jugalator

Look around you; people like the update, and Nightfall will be a hit like the rest of their chapters. Even the criticized Factions received a ton of gamers. I don't really know what future you're talking of.

I like the update. it won't do me any harm. I don't farm either, so I couldn't give less shit about all this AoE nerfing madness. but I care about the game and it's future, so I'm barely stating the obvious. if an update makes most people go apeshit about a certain change, if a update kills a certain aspect of the game, whether accidentally or intentionally - the company should take a hint and consider the possibility that they may have done something wrong.

and Factions was a bad example to give. it was criticized the shit out of, it introduced some of the worst gameplay changes ever and it definitely caused a LOT more controversy than the Prophecies campaign. I certainly hope that Nightfall will not make the same mistakes as Factions and will indeed be an improvement rather than a disappointment.

Gli · Oct 26, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

I'm all for making the game more challenging.

This, however, makes regular (non-solo farming) play easier, not harder. And a lot more tedious.

XvArchonvX · Oct 26, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by led-zep

this is quite funny, boy am i glad i decided not to get nightfall and to think it was for the exact reason that anet dont know to leave things alone and brandish the nerf bat too often and for no good reason.

good call though anet, such a stupid nerf the day before nightfall so its too late for most to cancel.

basicly anet are going to ruin every single skill until both sides are bashing each other with sword and axes.

have they bought shares in blizzard cos they are making WoW seem so much more of an attractive option.

and to the pvp'ers getting smug, without the lure of pve there will be fewer and fewer pvp'ers and your side of the game will suffer too.

Quite frankly I'm glad you won't be getting Nightfall. Over 95% of the update was all buffs for skills and new features to make the game a more pleasurable experience for players and A-net makes a few changes in attempt to redirect the PvE experience to be less solo/duo farming based and more group based and people start crying apocolypse. I hope you find enjoyment elsewhere and never come back.

kade · Oct 26, 2006, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Ok A-Net, how do you expect me to kill stuff now?! I only have like 600+ non-AoE skills left to use!!!!111one

/end sarcasm

how can anyone truly quit the game based on a nerf that effects AT THE MOST 15% of the available skills?

Amity and Truth · Oct 26, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Well, of course some folks love this update. I couldn't care less for the farming aspect, it's still possible. I'm still doing it. All is fine in that department. But i'm seriously not too happy about the whole AOE Mess.
You know, previously you had the chance to escape the Leeroys by going with a guild team. There was proper aggro control and you could do the missions fast and efficient. However this update totally killed this aspect of the game. There is no such thing as strategy or aggro control anymore. Everything starts running sooner or later and that gets very very very annoying.
It doesn't matter anymore if you're playing with Leeroy Dumbkin or with your guildies - the result will be the same: Pure absolute chaos.

And yes, of course Leeroy will love this update simply because all other changes were good and the AOE Chance doesn't matter to him, he never knew how to play anyways. Now every team degrades into Leeroy and that is simply something i don't like.

splinter shot · Oct 26, 2006, 11:07 AM // 11:07

im tired of people calling fixes nerfs this is the way this game should have been when it first came out.

monsters are reacting the way most humans would react, run away when low health i did say most humans we all seen frenzy loving warriors stand there with frenzy on taking dmg shouting at monks to heal

for me pve was geting stale and the change is good.

Gun Pierson · Oct 26, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

If guildwars is nothing without 55/SV ecto farmers slaving over globs all nite then it really wasn't a good game to begin with was it? I refuse to believe that, im glad 55/SV is gone so that us normal people have a chance at FoW.

You do realise that fewer ectos will be around which could lead to an increase in price. I hope you mean just playing FOW for normal people and not getting FOW armor because that is even harder to get for normal people now and that's the way Anet wanted it from the beginning I guess. But that's not my problem anymore. Welcome to the revolution.

darrylhaines · Oct 26, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

I don't like the update, I don't farm, but I still use the AOE spells to play the game, so your making it even harder to play.

firewalker · Oct 26, 2006, 11:35 AM // 11:35

my first and main character is a fire elementalist...more than 50% of the fire skills were already useless, when factions came out most of the fire ele skills were AOE over time wich i thought it was really stupid...no one wants the freakin mobs to scater. and now i really hope this is a bug, and if its not i hope ANet listens to our complains and fix this, because they just screwed most of the caster builds, and wtf now having a fire nucker is totaly useless?...have i been almost one year putting my time, effort and gold in a char and now ill have to erase it? Oo to nerf solo farming is one thing...to ruin and make some PvE builds that are not for solo farming completely useless is another thing...and one of the good things about the game was its balance between professions...so long to that...
i have lots of friends playing WoW and they adleast can have characters that make some potions, upgrades etc and thats a way of earning money, in GW we dont have that, and the most efective way of farming was solo farming, besides that the only service u could make to anyone was running...everyone have to be runners now? if my echo nucker is useless now cant i even farm in FOW? =|

really sad

fgarvin · Oct 26, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Hear that sound? It's the Chinese economy crashing. jk

unmatchedfury · Oct 26, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38

well ima gonna have to make a warrior now. and use its "nuke" attack skills to kill stuff. and a cyclone axe just to get pressure off of me. right now nerfing the vengful rit and 55 monnk, how do they expect us to get money.?

SirJackassIII · Oct 26, 2006, 11:40 AM // 11:40

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Originally Posted by fgarvin

Hear that sound? It's the Chinese economy crashing. jk

Indeed.

Chinese farmers have a few 1000 millions in GW gold stored.

GW Gold is now harder to get, causing the Ebay price to rise.
GW Gold is now harder to get, causing more kids to ask mommy to buy Gold online.

Chinese farmer make a lot more money.

Yes, it's a joke saying the Chinese economy chrashes...

Sophitia Leafblade · Oct 26, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53

I think the AoE change is gonna be great, The enemys shouldnt Scatter unless there close to dieing on u are, ok so it makes Farming that little bit harder and makes AoE finishing off skills harder, but It will make AoE way more effective in general. Finally You can Use Firestorm again to down a large chunk of hp again well untill the enemys gets low hp but thats what other skills are for, finishing them off.

Phantomice · Oct 26, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Originally Posted by ignis

I like the update. it won't do me any harm. I don't farm either, so I couldn't give less shit about all this AoE nerfing madness. but I care about the game and it's future, so I'm barely stating the obvious. if an update makes most people go apeshit about a certain change, if a update kills a certain aspect of the game, whether accidentally or intentionally - the company should take a hint and consider the possibility that they may have done something wrong.

and Factions was a bad example to give. it was criticized the shit out of, it introduced some of the worst gameplay changes ever and it definitely caused a LOT more controversy than the Prophecies campaign. I certainly hope that Nightfall will not make the same mistakes as Factions and will indeed be an improvement rather than a disappointment.

From what i can see it already has made the same if not more mistakes than Factions. I can understand updates as new classes are comming out but I mean come on to totaly change the game play is uncalled for. If i wanted the gameplay so different I would go out and buy a different game. I liked the way the first Guild wars played then they go and change it. Looks llike all the chapters from here on out will head downhill IMHO.

FloatingLakes · Oct 26, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

perhaps if the AI actually worked how they claimed.

any AoE scatters em, no matter what HP