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darrylhaines · Sep 27, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31

An avatar of a evil god...the god that you will eventually fight or kill in some way....and we will be able to capture the skill and change into the god we are fighting......errr...not going to happen...

arcanemacabre · Sep 27, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

I think it depends. Supposedly there are going to be choices that you make in quests and missions that determine the path you take in the story. That being the case, I think it's possible you could take an 'evil' path that leads to your hero fighting on the side of the 6th god. In which case, the Dervish very well may be able to take on that form.

Talk about a twist! Your own character becomming the 'bad guy'!

akh · Sep 27, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

imo if you choose evil path you will not have opportunity to kill veresh.

arcanemacabre · Sep 27, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by akh

imo if you choose evil path you will not have opportunity to kill veresh.

Depends again. We still don't really know if she's evil, or just 'playing' evil. Maybe that's part of it. If we choose the evil path, she turns out to be a 'spy' for the good guys, we get to fight her. If we choose the good path, she remains evil, we get to fight her.

Sounds cool to me, unless I'm right, in which case I've ruined it for myself.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

doinchi · Sep 27, 2006, 11:01 AM // 11:01

If you do become evil, you would probably become power hungry and kill Varesh.

WhiteZombie · Sep 27, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by gr3g

Varesh's evilness is an obvious plot misdirection. You don't make a character of such immaculate pedigree (bloodline of Turai Ossa, the greatest Elonian hero EVAR!!!) and for no reason make them irredeemably evil.

its called a fall from grace. it happens all the time. remember darth vader? :P

Giga Strike · Sep 27, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Varesh, being the main villain, would obviously be the final boss or second to last boss if abaddon was summoned. It would only make sense for varesh to have a kick-ass monster skill, the avatar of abaddon fits it perfectly. it would be the closest thing to actually fighting abaddon (and not getting ur ass kicked in 2 seconds) that you could get to.

gr3g · Sep 27, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by WhiteZombie

its called a fall from grace. it happens all the time. remember darth vader? :P

A fall from grace requires lengthy exposition. Anakin didn't just wake up one day and say, "damn, the dark side be da shiznitz, screw dese hippy bathrobes I'm getting me a shiny helmet!"

So far there is nothing in the story that really motivates Varesh's evilness. We barely even know who she is in game at the point where the Great Plot Twist is revealed. The pacing is all off, is what I'm saying. Give us a reason to be surprised at her allegiance!

Giga Strike · Sep 27, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

here's a reason:

she is a direct decendent of the ghosly hero in the crystal desert.

gr3g · Sep 27, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

That's not a reason. That's dadaism.

Giga Strike · Sep 27, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

...whats that?

Mr. G · Sep 27, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Twould make a good "Celestial Skill" or the elonia equivalent (if we get something like that)

Rainman · Sep 27, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

hi zex its me rainman from sacred!! good 2 see ya m8

imo i think avatar of abaddon would spoil nightfall for newbies but it does sound cool :P

Avatar Of Abaddon
For 60 seconds your attacks do shadow damage and you steal 5-15 health every time you attack. AVATAR OF ABADDON FTW!

Zexion · Sep 27, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by darrylhaines

An avatar of a evil god...the god that you will eventually fight or kill in some way....and we will be able to capture the skill and change into the god we are fighting......errr...not going to happen...

Lol wtf?

I never said anything about players being able to cap and use it!
I always stated it as a monster-only skill.

_Zexion

Studio Ghibli · Sep 27, 2006, 03:32 PM // 15:32

I hate to be the one to point out the obvious-

But, hey, I'm about to point out the obvious, so-

The story for Prophecies, while fun, wasn't exactly original material. If anyone posting here had any play during the beta, it kind of felt like it was a hodge-podge of a bunch of cliche ideas thrown together.

Not bad, no. But it certainly didn't wow me at any point.

As for Factions, I was a bit confused by its story direction. So, we have a villain who's a villain because he.. SPOILERS AHEAD

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.. killed the emperor because the emperor was going to kill him because he was too powerful, and now he's angry because he died because he killed the emperor--so he's going to throw the universe out of alignment?

A real bang-up job as casting him as the reluctant villain, Anet.

It had a real great start, but.. once you realized both his motivations and the emperor's motivations, it became a kind of "DUR" story.

Nightfall, so far, has been real entertaining. Here's hoping the folks at Anet don't bungle the story again. ;P

Giga Strike · Sep 27, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

seems to me like the nightfall story could be very cliche. a basic, cult trying to release a great evil force that could destroy the world and to stop it all the good forces on earth join forces to fight in what seems to be an "end all" fight, kind of thing.

but i like that kind of thing so its ok by me.

Clawdius_Talonious · Sep 27, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54

No one else thinks we'll be fighting Abbadon at the end of the game? I mean Abbadon is trapped in the Realm of Torment, and we'll be traveling there... So why else besides to slay Abbadon would we be going? Good food, attractive women, and the ever so lovely weather?

Giga Strike · Sep 27, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

possibly to stop a ritual that would free him.

akh · Sep 27, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

i think that varesh will be our end boss because you can't defeat god himself.
not the one that other 5 gods failed to defeat. you can't... unless you do some kind of weakening ritual or something. and i doubt we will be able to cap avatar because its going to be something like:
Avatar Of Abaddon
For 60 seconds you wtfpwn everything.

sindex · Sep 27, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by akh

i think that varesh will be our end boss because you can't defeat god himself.
not the one that other 5 gods failed to defeat. you can't... unless you do some kind of weakening ritual or something. and i doubt we will be able to cap avatar because its going to be something like:
Avatar Of Abaddon
For 60 seconds you wtfpwn everything.

You’re probably right about never really defeating him, but you could be able to seal up is prison realm again (with him in it). The other thing you have to take account of is the other five gods; I know in the end they will probably get involved, making sure one of their worlds is not the wakening of their greatest enemy. However there is a chance of going up against him at the end.