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Cherrie · Sep 17, 2006, 11:15 AM // 11:15

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Originally Posted by majoho

LOL, no one can see that unless they zoom in on your char and WHY would anyone do that?

Some people should go play with their Barbies or something if they are so vain on behalf on a computer character.

becouse i can, becouse thats my char, becouse i see it even if its not zoomed since i know its there, becouse its visible in every cutscene and becouse it IS visible even if you dont zoom in. pics are zoomed so the quality is better. need more?

Mr. G · Sep 17, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

All i know is my monk has lost that "Slapped witha wet fish" Look, its now been rduced to a "Duh?" look, not perfect but an improvment at least

Anthony01355 · Sep 17, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by Cherrie

becouse i can, becouse thats my char, becouse i see it even if its not zoomed since i know its there, becouse its visible in every cutscene and becouse it IS visible even if you dont zoom in. pics are zoomed so the quality is better. need more?

Though I sort of understand where your coming from, you spelt bec'a'use wrong.

Tien ak · Sep 17, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

In a word, yes. If the mouths are closed, they will literally "fuse" and will not move during animation. (And as mentioned, offering a "no animation mode" is not an option.

) So while it might be a surprise to read this, yes, it is -impossible- to close the mouths again. (Oh and I'm glad that things are looking better for your character. That's nice to hear.)

My honest guess is not at all. I care a lot about my chars, and I care a lot about the game. Because I care about the game, I won't let disappointment in a face change (skill change, armour change, attribute change, music change, whatever change

) dampen my love for the game as a whole. All are going to make their own choices, of course, and they absolutely choose what is best for them! But I think those who are most upset are also those who are most engaged, and, like me, they'll be happily involved in Nightfall. (BTW, that is not a dismissal of the problem, not at all. Just a random analysis about which, as you say, only time will tell.

)

Can you tell me which is old and which is new? And when the new shot was taken? Remember there was an update today, and we must be sure that it was taken after that update. Thanks.

Ok I glad to hear that this not a dismissal of the problem however as Sable Phoenix put that it is actually possible and I do agree with him i've played many a game with lip syncing inciding WoW who go a step further and your character does a talk expression when you type and my character hasn't got a toothy grin, so someone in your company is telling porkies...again.

I do feel you have and scuse my blunt tone a stupid descion as people were not going to be as angry about not having lip sync than they are that their favourite characters have been changed. Again im confused on why this descion was made I can imagine the meeting "ok guys we finally can add lip sync but it'll be at a cost, let me run down the options...option A we put lip sync but we change the look of everyones character or B we leave lip sync well alone and everyone keeps their characters the way they made them." how the descion was lip sync is beyond me.

EDIT: To be honest I would be happy if you closed my characters goofy grin and gave back her cheecky grin she once have

WasAGuest · Sep 17, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

@Gaile - Thank you for answering part of my question Gaile. I appreciate it a great deal.

I will have to add that, and I'm not kidding or being "mean" or even just hard headed about this either; the lack of post creation character editing is starting to hurt the game to some degree. Some players do not care about the look on the character they play. Those that don't care, good for you. Those that do care are generally the more hardcore role players that stick with and continue playing a game for years. EQ realized this and added in a /face command to allow players to alter the appearance at whim and as often as the player desired. Total freedom. I wont touch WoW as it looks dumb, so I have no idea if it has editing of characters as well.

Still left unanswered and a concern for many players* is whether Anet is planning on making the feature of changing a charaters appearance/hair styles/etc a chargable item. The lack of answer on this is becoming more and more disconcerting as I am starting to think that is indeed what Anet is planning. Could you please answer this?

Before someone says it can't be answered; it can. The side effects of answering this question will only have ill side effects if Anet is preparing to charge for such a feature. If they are not, then more happy players.

*Many being the key word. Not majority, not minority, but many. Meaning those I have talked to about and have held conversations with in game, in voice chat, and in PMs. Not all are concerned or care, but of those I spoke too, many of them were concerned. Several are not buying Nightfall untill such a feature is provided. Instead they are planning on buying NWN2 and perhaps buying Nightfall after such a feature is added in. Something for the devs to consider.

Again, thank you for answering.

End Of The World · Sep 17, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

A little bug with the hair...

Another error: Earrings have dissapeared from my E
Before update->

After->

koa_Torqual · Sep 17, 2006, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Queen Christie

Gaile, when will the panda eye's on the elementalists be fixed? Some of the other diffrences on the othes were fixed but why has the panda eyes on the elems been neglected? :|

We already got our answer on this. When we made our characters, there was a bug in the lighting which covered up their panda eyes and made it look like they had beautiful eyes and not panda eyes. Now this bug has been 'fixed' and we can at last see their panda eyes. It's the whole lighting system that has been 'improved' and therefore we can't selfishly expect any specific change just for our female Elementalists. We'd be asking A-Net to introduce a bug into the game - how preposterous.

Isn't it amazing - I wanted my character to look like they did when you made it but thanks to the online debate I now realise how stupid, selfish, unreasonable, freakish, etc this.

Now if everyone will just stop complaining, the problem will go away.

lyra_song · Sep 17, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

The faces have changed. Their geometry, along with the lighting system makes them look significantly (this is debateable) different to some people.

Now bugs and errors will be fixed (dear god i hope). But Anet is not gonna bow down to everyone just because of their own personal tastes and nitpicking because the faces change slightly, THAT is just ridiculous.

People be REALISTIC in your complaints.

The skin tone isnt gonna change back, imho. thats a lighting change.

The eyeliner thing...i think you guys are overreacting.

Facial expression...this im a bit impartial to.

The runny mascara stuff...ok that needs to be fixed.

The eye colors greying out, a little increase in saturation of the textures could be good.

The whole duckfaced/ rotten teeth thing really should be addressed....those are just creepy.

Disappearing earrings...ok! FIX THAT

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sidenote:

Me personally. I dont like most the faces on any character.

I've always picked the "least ugly" face, not the face i want, since none of them really appeal to me (with exception of my ranger).

My ritualist is UGLY and will always be wearing her headgear.

Really its hard to build an avatar that suits me because i dont have control over eye color/lip color/size etc.

AJM · Sep 17, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

AJM I am well aware that there are more than a few complaints of substance in this thread. For a while there my mes had a gap between her neck and her head. However there are also a large number of people who are basically saying, "I don't like it because it's not quite the same as it was before, change it back", and it was to these people that my post was directed.

AH, ok. Gotcha! I agree with you on that. Many people are complaining about very minor changes.

Jyc · Sep 17, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Biggest problem I see for me and I'm sure it's for everyone is that we all spent a lot of times having the perfect look, such as my warrior, I didn't like the old man face so I specifically chose a younger face and then they changed that!

I known like 5 people, deleting their main character purely for the fact that their specific they wanted is gone and they felt like they lost their uniqueness.

Darth Marth · Sep 17, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

The eyeliner thing...i think you guys are overreacting.

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Originally Posted by Darth Marth

Before:

After:

I don't think I'm overreacting to this. Please, Anet, Idon't want my favorite character to look fruity forever.

Tien ak · Sep 17, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by koa_Torqual

We already got our answer on this. When we made our characters, there was a bug in the lighting which covered up their panda eyes and made it look like they had beautiful eyes and not panda eyes. Now this bug has been 'fixed' and we can at last see their panda eyes. It's the whole lighting system that has been 'improved' and therefore we can't selfishly expect any specific change just for our female Elementalists. We'd be asking A-Net to introduce a bug into the game - how preposterous.

Isn't it amazing - I wanted my character to look like they did when you made it but thanks to the online debate I now realise how stupid, selfish, unreasonable, freakish, etc this.

Now if everyone will just stop complaining, the problem will go away.

Yeah but to be honest were hardly to blame for all this nobody forced them to do this, the way I see it is it's arnea net trying to add something fancy for nightfall to try and give em some extra points but it has back fired.

And as Wasaguest pointed out Neverwinter nights 2 and Diablo 3 are both on the way so if arena net wants to keep their PvE players then they will try their best to fix it, which im hoping they will.

If the job was done proberly and there were no panda eyes or buck teath then everyone would be happy, and by the way it isn't just this forum people are annoyied about this GWonline has a post were people are not happy so there are alot of unhappy people so there should be a change soon...all we need is confirmation that it will.

Voltar · Sep 17, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

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Originally Posted by TheMadKingGeorge

BTW Cant Wait Till I Get Hellgate London

seriously. website keeps pushing out ads for employment. it's making me nervous.

Voltar · Sep 17, 2006, 11:52 PM // 23:52

honestly i haven't seen any screenshots of "panda eyes" or anything. people just seem to be overreacting to this and complaining for it's own sake. most seem to look better (and yes, your dude mesmer looks a little fruitier but...you made a dude mesmer...they look fruity to begin with)

it's a change to add animations to mouths.

and i do agree with that one guys about his mesmer's teeth. they do look kinda...aged.

and yes, the "beauty and the beast" ranger pic is obviously light-saturated to look sillier.

mine are possibly different but they look fine to me.

/shrug

Cassie · Sep 17, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Lol..
My Sin looks like he hasn't slept in a month (he hasnt actually) with those eyesacs they gave him. Or are they bruises from frontlining?
My Ele turned into a chipmunk (Time for a diet!) and got Botox to her lips..
My Rit
My Necro ... loading him now.... OMG, he got AGED! Someone call Miracle Max... I need to get like 25 years BACK... His NOSE! Ug! And... are those Dumbo's ears? Walt Disney should SUE! But Husk was meant to be ugly...

My monk i havent played past Yak's since his inventory is full of useful items :P so i dont remember what he looked like.... (idle for 5 months?)

My mesmer.. My oldest and most precious toon, is awful. Nose too aquiline, crosseyed, and has a pale diamond of flesh under her hairdo that ... isn't part of her face.

I have to agree that the changes are poorly done, and that when we picked our character faces back in the creation, we picked for a reason. Add new options, sure, but DONT mess with existing pictures. Alot of us ARE addicts, and VERY intense about this game and "our" looks.

I think the general concensus is... Return our old faces to us, ANet. If you can't, then let us know you're going to fix those faces with crosseyes, buckteeth, and enlarged earlobes. They may be minor changes, but when i made MY toons, i kept changing until i had the PERFECT visage for the character's "Personality"... And i've been running some of these toons for almost a year, AS they were. Pleased with my choices. And now i'm pretty miffed.

TheOneAndOnlyX · Sep 18, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

I don't understand, whenever Arenanet makes changes, everyone goes ballistic and rages on forums. Such as the recent change to faces, ANET changes one pixel and tons of people outcry saying it is awful and you can't even tell the difference besides better clarity. It's not like you stare at your characters face everyday, and you barely even look at the face, half the time your looking at the back running. Untill someone shows me how much of a messup or trouble they made, my statement stands clear.

akh · Sep 18, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

glitch

Age · Sep 18, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10

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Originally Posted by End Of The World

A little bug with the hair...

Another error: Earrings have dissapeared from my E
Before update->

After->

This is nothing I got a little black streak across the top of my Monks Blonde Hair.

sindex · Sep 18, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29

I see no difference, so I see no problem. Unless hands start popping out of heads (yes I do mean plural) or the source engine is implemented here, then there is really nothing viable or exciting. I do like the whole Frankenstein monster thing going on with the ladies, so foxy (notice my sarcasm).

Sable Phoenix · Sep 18, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Running mascara in the guild hall.