Curse

Queenie · Sep 16, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48

This is just going from bad to worse.

vinegrower · Sep 16, 2006, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Ombrepierre

The eyes are made up too much, and the lips are too thick...

Look at how the difference is big :

Left, before. Right, new model.

It's no more the same character!

if you line up the mouths in something like photoshop, the lips are the exact same size. The eyes are the result of the new lighting. I have the same face on my warrior and when it is anywhere other than the character select screen it looks just like the old one.

Alt F Four · Sep 16, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30

I might as well jump on the band-wagon with some issues as well. Now, these things aren't new, but while the art team is working their hardest to make changes, this is totally one that needs updating.

I don't care too much about the cape, and that arm issue only pops up if I'm using the emote 'Attention'. It's the mohawk I'm more concerned about. We have the little assassin girls, and the canthan necro chicks with their fully enclosed pony tails. I don't think it's too much to beg that my poor freak's pink mohawk becomes an actually poly.

But, seeing as though my game runs fine I can't exactly complain.

Oh, and some of you who are complaining about your character's faces are completely insane. Though, I guess I can't relate as I strive to make my character's creepy and ugly. It's easier to do then some perfect faced femme fatale. Also being said, I don't play Guild Wars to have my polygons hit on, so I tried to make my character convey that sense. :P

koa_Torqual · Sep 16, 2006, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Queen Christie

This is just going from bad to worse.

No, the mouth and chin got fixed I think.

The problem now is eye colour (grey instead of blue), eye liner, skin tone.

What used to look like healthy skin with gradations of shading is now, uniformly, some kind of plastic monotone. It makes the characters look like shop mannequins with painted on skin, rather than living, breathing people.

By the way Ombrepierre, I agree with you, your Warrior on the right looks like a completely different character. The main difference is the skin tone, like with all the others. And, like the others, your blue eyes have gone grey.

Oh and please will people stop saying this is just down to different lighting on the login screen? We have looked in game before posting, you know!

Queenie · Sep 16, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26

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Originally Posted by koa_Torqual

No, the mouth and chin got fixed I think.

The problem now is eye colour (grey instead of blue), eye liner, skin tone.

What used to look like healthy skin with gradations of shading is now, uniformly, some kind of plastic monotone. It makes the characters look like shop mannequins with painted on skin, rather than living, breathing people.

The shine in the eye is gone, she looks so dull, her face is slimmer than before. god I hope they fix the eyes!

Blackhawk · Sep 16, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

Observation: Usually complain treads are populated with boys whining about Anet selling it's soul or something,but this one has mostly girls in it who got hurt in their vanity spot. Priceless!

Observation: So if your character you've been playing for ages suddenly looked like sh*t (sorry best word to describe it) you'd be happy then would you?.

BTW If you've got a male char, you'd better check it's head's still attached to it's neck and you havent got a hole in the back or top of your head

Slainster · Sep 16, 2006, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Im seeing similar things on my mes too.. particularly by the mouth...my ele still looks ok

Tien ak · Sep 16, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

lol wow talk about rubbing salt in the wound not only did they force me to farm for new FoW boots, taking forever to fix my proberlem with the 15 attribute quest but now they've made my character pull a jaws face off of James bond

Swines that they are!

I don't know how to put the screens to show but I do know how to attach them just looking at them you can see the big diffrence from kick ass warrior to Warrior trying to do a Jaws impression.

I know arena net are a new company and all and I understand they are trying to improve the game but changing characters faces when people are already happy with them is such a big risk to make, as people like me who hate wearing helms and wear FoW are now well a truly screwed over. I don't know how there system works or what programmes they are using but if they could keep the faces the way they were but make them sharper then that would be great...chances of that happening is the day they decide to fix the 15 attruibute quest

I must say tho what must of gone threw there heads "great Idea guys...How about we change everyones faces! we say on the site it'll improve but really we just make em look stupid come on it'll be hilarous! they'll log on think great new improvements then Surprise!"

I wouldn't mind knowning which games Arena net actually did when they were working for blizzard.

im sorry if you see this as a rant but when you have spend loads of time making your character perfect them one at a time the game company decides to ruin it stat wise and now looks it's not exactly making me think I should spend loads of time play this game. Of course the PVP people aren't effected as they can just delete their characters and just change it with no hassle, but for PVE if im not happy I gotta spend anouther few months changing her looks. -sigh-

I've even tried to make a decent looking warrior by using my extra PVP slot but alas they all look stupid now.

Times like this im glad I can pay for World of warcraft.

EDIT:

Just read the rest of the Thread and I must say that mine are bad and I want them to change it back to the way she was but some are really bad, also i've notied that the cantha ones look great.

To be honest Gaile I really don't understand why lip sinking is going to make me think wow I really like my character now I want to spend more time on this...

it seems to me that your trying to do something nice and fancy but really just reading this thread if getting rid of lip sinc will return their characters then so be it...infact to please both parties why not ditch lip sync and instead put an option to have the look we have now or the one before?
Course this won't happen makes to much sense -_-

This is really frustrating from being a really good game and thinking well of it from thinking its downhill, your staff worked for such a good company as Blizzard yet you do stupid things like this.

I will keep my warrior just incase you do change it back which you say you won't and if thats the case then i'll stay with a company that actually wants me to enjoy their game that to put silly little tweaks in it like lip syncing which more than likely have bugs in it anyway.

I hate moan but seriously this called for all the other guys trying to be cool saying "it doesn't matter" well im sorry but it does matter I made my characters to look how I wanted not what YOU wanted if you want your character to look like Jaws from james bond thats up to you.

Ombrepierre · Sep 16, 2006, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by vinegrower

if you line up the mouths in something like photoshop, the lips are the exact same size. The eyes are the result of the new lighting. I have the same face on my warrior and when it is anywhere other than the character select screen it looks just like the old one.

In the game, my character is the same... It's not only at the select screen, look at that :

Because the new border's eyeline fo the last update, the appearance of my warrior is radically changed!
I hate the new model model.
Please, Arena, remove the make-up under the eyes!
And return my former lips!
The warrior girl was perfect before!

prism2525 · Sep 16, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by Ombrepierre

In the game, my character is the same... It's not only at the select screen, look at that :

Because the new border's eyeline fo the last update, the appearance of my warrior is radically changed!
I hate the new model model.
Please, Arena, remove the make-up under the eyes!
And return my former lips!
The warrior girl was perfect before!

I think anet or Galie said that that 'make-up' under the eyes is just a shadow made by something of the new poly-thingy. Still, it has to be reduced at least.

Horseman Of War · Sep 16, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28

the faces have always had there mouths slightly opened. The warrior, the ritualist, the elemental-> their mouths were always slightly opened...

i think most ppl are jumping on the bandwagon here, and finding the harshest lighting possible...

I feel bad for the Anet team reading this crap, a lot of these comments are a little over the top.

I definately noticed to texture upgrades, and I really like how its turning out. A lot of you people need to chill out with your zomg i delete now crap because its really immature. They update the game all the time, and when there is a problem, they fix it.

Actually, what am I talking about- If you have been one of these ppl I hope you do delete the character. Then when they fix it you can sit there smacking your head Doh repeatedly.

If I was one of the ANet artists, I know Id be workin REAL hard to fix something for someone who doesnt appreciate it. /sarcasm

Ombrepierre · Sep 16, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by prism2525

I think anet or Galie said that that 'make-up' under the eyes is just a shadow made by something of the new poly-thingy. Still, it has to be reduced at least.

I read Gaile well *smile*
And I hope that the team will manage to remove this "ZOMBI EYES" effect.

Because I'm so dissappointed that I do not want any more to play this game, or the next Nightfall... I was too attached to my character *cry*
It's no more my lovely character!

PS for Horseman : it's our character. We play with him since a lot of time. I create it with an appearance, because I found it marvellous. Nobody can affect the appearance of my character without my agreement.
ANet Artists work hard, okay.
But the result can be a failure...
Like for my warrior girl.

NiukNiuk · Sep 16, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Nothing really changed on my mesmer character, but there's still 2 things that annoy me:

First this small square of light on the top of her head:

And this graphical bug with the kurzick 15k armor:

FalconDance · Sep 16, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

The only majorish changes I notice in my crew is:

My necro's face isn't quite as waifish and...wistful as it was but still acceptable (don't like the scary nec faces. Hers goes with her backstory better)

Ranger and warrior's faces are a little wider in the jaw, i.e. not quite as triangular and a good thing. Can see a hint of teeth (warrior).

Mesmer's lower lip looks like a bee stung her but good! It's too much.

Monk (male) seems a bit less boyish looking.

Not a noticeable difference in my ele or rit, though.

Horseman Of War · Sep 16, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Obviously they are well aware the problem.

A lot of these posts are unnecessarily cruel.

You people need to calm down.

And since ANet owns your character they can do whatever they want.

People act like there is nothing more important in the world... and thats a completely separate issue than just some transitionary textures.

moriz · Sep 16, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

my monk's now got this runny-mascera effect under some lighting conditions.

my warrior's got faint dark triangles (looks like shadows, actually) on both sides of her nose.

aside from that, my monk now looks better than ever, and my ranger still looks the same. my assassin is pretty damn ugly to begin with, so there's no problem there.

Tien ak · Sep 16, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

the faces have always had there mouths slightly opened. The warrior, the ritualist, the elemental-> their mouths were always slightly opened...

i think most ppl are jumping on the bandwagon here, and finding the harshest lighting possible...

I feel bad for the Anet team reading this crap, a lot of these comments are a little over the top.

I definately noticed to texture upgrades, and I really like how its turning out. A lot of you people need to chill out with your zomg i delete now crap because its really immature. They update the game all the time, and when there is a problem, they fix it.

Actually, what am I talking about- If you have been one of these ppl I hope you do delete the character. Then when they fix it you can sit there smacking your head Doh repeatedly.

If I was one of the ANet artists, I know Id be workin REAL hard to fix something for someone who doesnt appreciate it. /sarcasm

yes well theres a diffrence between appreciating someone doing something for you and some one changing something that you didn't want to be changed.

it's like finding a painting you think looks really nice then the artist taking it away and saying "you can't have this one, i've made this one look better" and even though you disagree with his opioion (can't spell) you have no say in the matter however as the one you had before has now been destoryied, would you buy more paintings from this guy? no course you wouldn't.

Also Gaile told us that the Artists are chaging some of them which will proberly be the duck looking ones but the ones doing the Jaws expressions will not, so yes deleting the duck ones is a tad OTT at the moment but it is still frustrating for those players.

And I dought that their attidue is "oh yeah well we own your characters so there = P" as they will first be given the finger by many players and then Guild wars will be on the Sold out bucket bin.

There was no need for this change others I can understand but changing my characters look for a stupid Lip sync is bad excuse. it's like "Arena net can't you just ditch lip sync and have an option to have my old look back?" "What? don't you know how to run a buissnes? if we take out lip sync millions of people will be upset and they may even not buy our other chapters."

don't worry though I hear the next update for chapter 4 will be eyebrow expressions in cut scenes so who knows some character may have unibrows
-_-

Blackhawk · Sep 16, 2006, 02:04 PM // 14:04

Anyone else notice their characters "new teeth" moving about in their mouth like KITT's Front Sensor thing from Knight Rider

I dread to think what the lip sync will be like for my Female Necro with revolving teeth thrown into the mix as well....

Ombrepierre · Sep 16, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by Tien ak

yes well theres a diffrence between appreciating someone doing something for you and some one changing something that you didn't want to be changed.

I agree entirely with your last message, Tien ak

I have the feeling to have been victim of an intrusion in my private life...

Sai of Winter · Sep 16, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

I kinda miss the slight smile on my Necro before the update fix (9/15).