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Ninna · Nov 27, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47

power and gear effectiveness is equalized heavily in GW PVE
-- *I hope it stays this way*

Styles and looks are not

I'm not as concerned with looks and it gives people goals to pursue for rare/elusive "appearances" (hard to get armor, rare skins, etc)

Gun Pierson · Nov 27, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

@ Ernada and Ninna: this game always had the spirit of equality and balance since the start. It was for over a year and half like that but people had a greater gaming experience before the latest changes. Even the ones that rushed through content could keep themselves busy in between chapters. What you fail to understand is that a lot of that fun or options are taken away now or give less enjoyment.

It was fun to farm for rare golds or whatever which are no better than collector's or greens. It was a way to keep people busy, same for chestruns and whatnot.

And about the new ai, I already adjusted. Being a monk they target me all the time. I rush in first and just stay alive and my heroes are safe and will kill them in no time, target by target. It all depends on my skill. This works even in the hardest endgame places. Solo farming takes longer as most will run away and come back when they're healed up. The ai is more predictable than ever, not really an improvement imo. I'm the bait and they take it. But whatever, going for PKM now as the loot sux anyway.

ekamdu · Nov 27, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

i didnt read the entire 37 pages, tbh i only read the first post, but just to respond to that:

I have finished the game 3 times, (paragon, necro and warrior) im about 80% with my monk and elementalist, and about halfway with my dervish. You're right, it isnt as much fun as the first time, especially since i can almost talk all the cutscenes with the characters, i know nearly everything they are going to say... but its still fun! im just going to finish the game with my last 3 characters, and hopefully by then the elite mission(s) are ready!

i cant wait for it

. Untill then i'll just keep playing and perhaps a little green farming (got nearly 30 Chor's Axes, 30 other greens) so i'll be fine till then :P

by the way, i do not know if you own the other two chapters (prophecies and factions), but you might consider playing those chapters again, but this time with a dervish or paragon!

ekamdu · Nov 27, 2006, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

@ Ernada and Ninna: this game always had the spirit of equality and balance since the start. It was for over a year and half like that but people had a greater gaming experience before the latest changes. Even the ones that rushed through content could keep themselves bussy in between chapters. What you fail to understand is that a lot of that fun or options are taken away now or give less enjoyment.

It was fun to farm for rare golds or whatever which are no better than collector's or greens. It was a way to keep people busy, same for chestruns and whatnot.

And about the new ai, I already adjusted. Being a monk they target me all the time. I rush in first and just stay alive and my heroes are safe and will kill them in no time, target by target. It all depends on my skill. This works even in the hardest endgame places. Solo farming takes longer as most will run away and come back when they're healed up. The ai is more predictable than ever, not really an improvement imo. But whatever, going for PKM now as the loot sux anyway.

/agree

i was saving for my incorrigable alehound title (im at around 65% now) but ill never have enough money now the farming (or the easiest/best farming) is nerfed to bits

i was also saving for FoW armor, but i can totally forget it... i loved farming or finding a different build to farm with

. I really spent a lot of time in farming, and i got a lot back

there are still things we can enjoy ourselves with till the next chapters comes out (replaying old chapters, replaying nightfall, elite missions, pvp) but i really loved farming since i could buy things that made me "special"

garethporlest18 · Nov 27, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

The fact is, that a lot of the fun things people like to do in game. Cost money, which you can't make fast enough, to consider those fun things..fun anymore. So there is no reason to play this game.

What we are asking for is, for Anet to simply fix that and it will hurt no one and keep a lot of people who were bored, happy.

I'm still playing it, I have 10 PvE characters, and I'm working on getting them through NF slowly. I rushed my tank through it and well that was a good idea for the most part..it's always fun being first or at least 1 of the first.

Competition is what this game is about, but equal competition. To bad there is no such thing. There is always someone better, always someone who can beat you, that's not equal at all. Some person has 5 sets of FoW, another has 10. Some person has Koabd..another has PKM. Some person has r5 chest, another has the max tier. You can't win no matter what you want to do and that's what a lot of people strive to do, especially in PvP. The difference there is that, skill and or friends. If you have 5 friends who are good, you don't need to be usually, you can get carried along and get rank. I'm sure that's happened a lot in the past.

So this game is a Competitive game, with equality only in the skills/character and weapons to some extent. Nothing else.

Anyways I"m around 5000 hours of game time, I'm not bored yet. If I am I go sit in Grotto or play a different game and come back just fine. Yet I don't like reptitiveness so, after a while this game will become that. I don't want to stop it, I want Anet to do the little they have to, to make it great for a long while again. It's totally possible and it will not hurt any of you guys who are siding with them.

lacasner · Nov 27, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Competition is what this game is about, but equal competition. To bad there is no such thing. There is always someone better, always someone who can beat you, that's not equal at all. Some person has 5 sets of FoW, another has 10. Some person has Koabd..another has PKM. Some person has r5 chest, another has max tier.

How can you assume someone with 5 sets of FoW is worse than someone with 10?

«Ripskin · Nov 27, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

I want my trollsies back!!!

(Sucks thumb in the corner of my mind)

This thread hits me hard...
Just makes me think how bad the next thing is gonna get nerfed... then the next.. Just wondering where anerf is going after the SECOND AoE nerf...

garethporlest18 · Nov 27, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by lacasner

How can you assume someone with 5 sets of FoW is worse than someone with 10?

I didn't say they were worse, and what I meant was, the guy trying to compete armor wise with 5 sets of FoW will lose to the person that has 10 sets of it. Which is a case in Guild Wars as I do know some people compete armors. Now they might think they are better cause they have 5 sets or 8 sets or something. But skills wise in game that might not be true. So the person with 10 sets is better armor wise, than the person with 5. That's what I was trying to get across, the only equality in this game is caps (level, armor caps etc)and their availability and skills available.

Regardless this is kind of off topic and has nothing to do with being bored as competitive equality will always be there.

Gorebrex · Nov 27, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

The fact is, that a lot of the fun things people like to do in game. Cost money, which you can't make fast enough, to consider those fun things..fun anymore. So there is no reason to play this game.

What we are asking for is, for Anet to simply fix that and it will hurt no one and keep a lot of people who were bored, happy.

I'm still playing it, I have 10 PvE characters, and I'm working on getting them through NF slowly. I rushed my tank through it and well that was a good idea for the most part..it's always fun being first or at least 1 of the first.

Competition is what this game is about, but equal competition. To bad there is no such thing. There is always someone better, always someone who can beat you, that's not equal at all. Some person has 5 sets of FoW, another has 10. Some person has Koabd..another has PKM. Some person has r5 chest, another has the max tier. You can't win no matter what you want to do and that's what a lot of people strive to do, especially in PvP. The difference there is that, skill and or friends. If you have 5 friends who are good, you don't need to be usually, you can get carried along and get rank. I'm sure that's happened a lot in the past.

So this game is a Competitive game, with equality only in the skills/character and weapons to some extent. Nothing else.

Anyways I"m around 5000 hours of game time, I'm not bored yet. If I am I go sit in Grotto or play a different game and come back just fine. Yet I don't like reptitiveness so, after a while this game will become that. I don't want to stop it, I want Anet to do the little they have to, to make it great for a long while again. It's totally possible and it will not hurt any of you guys who are siding with them.

Competetive? Since when? I mustve missed the notice, but thats ok, because Ive never really felt I was "competing".

That sounds alot like real life. Always someone better, someone always has more something than you... If you have friends who are good(at a job for example), they can carry you(till youre better). Youll have to just deal with it, preferably in a constructive manner, as you seem to be doing now.

You have to consider that "One mans pleasure is anothers poison".

Zedd Kun · Nov 27, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by arcady

Some of you people play these games too fast...

You rush through all of the beautiful content, finish the game, and then get bored.

There is no solution a company could make for people like this. No matter how much content they include, you will rush it and then find yourselves with little to do..

I agree.

And about auction house, I've heard a million times that would come. But I think that is rumours. Anyway, what Anet should do, is to make something like the system FlyFF (Fly for Fun) has. I've seen my friend play it, and its really awesome: You set up a small shop, with 24 slots. You fill them with the items you want to sell, and set the price on them. When a buyer come to your shop, he can only buy with the price you made yourself. It's a chat there so people can leave a comment too. After you have written the shop text, you can go afk while people are coming to your shop to buy. A text will appear over your head.
I don't mean that Anet should copy Flyff, but something like this should be made, but also keeping the old trade.

Signed?

stiffler · Nov 27, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

[QUOTE=Zedd Kun]I agree.

And about auction house, I've heard a million times that would come. But I think that is rumours. Anyway, what Anet should do, is to make something like the system FlyFF (Fly for Fun) has. I've seen my friend play it, and its really awesome: You set up a small shop, with 24 slots. You fill them with the items you want to sell, and set the price on them. When a buyer come to your shop, he can only buy with the price you made yourself. It's a chat there so people can leave a comment too. After you have written the shop text, you can go afk while people are coming to your shop to buy. A text will appear over your head.
I don't mean that Anet should copy Flyff, but something like this should be made, but also keeping the old trade.

Holy crap thats an awsome idea, I could see that working in GW for sure. They need to make an auction house followed buy custom merchants for selling your stuff. That would be great. Although might get hard with constant nerfs, people wont have anything to sell

Effendi Westland · Nov 27, 2006, 03:36 PM // 15:36

FlyFF!!! but even that game has people shouting to sell their wares in the global chat

Zedd Kun · Nov 27, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Not much. Atleast 90% less than GW.. ><

reetkever · Nov 27, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Hmmm why do people say we rush through the game? I play about 3 hours per day, and now I completed nightfall with 3 characters, and with 2 of them I did every quest I could find.

Why do I beat the game so fast? Cause there's NOTHING else to do except questing/missioning.

In Prophecies/Factions, I used to chest run, farm a bit, buy some stuff, explore, work on titles, and then a quest/mission. There was alot to do and there wasn't a single moment i was bored.

Now, every second I'm playing Guild Wars I'm doing a quest or a mission. The number of Quests and missions in the game is limited, and with heroes that pwn everything, it's not a problem to do them.

Besides, what was the friggin problem with farming in the first place? It wouldn't hurt anyone if it was possible again. Heck stuff would even become cheaper again, and people wouldn't be as bored. Also, the game would seem longer cause there's SOOOOO much more stuff to do (chest run/working on titles/farming in Elona)

XvArchonvX · Nov 27, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by Zedd Kun

ROFL! It looks like a pink version of GW!

and yes, an auction house is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overdue in GW.

/signed

Gli · Nov 27, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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