Curse

The Ernada · Nov 26, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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Originally Posted by lacasner

It prooves a significant amount. It showes how I once was, before my 1,000 MEMBER ALLIANCE DISBANDED and quit, along with my real life friends. So, no matter what Anet did, you couldn't be bored, because you would still have this companionship..it's something I had in this game..before people realized the truth about it. And with many things in this game requiring team efforts, truly with no friends now = no success. Sure, success maybe with heroes, but that is subpar in my opinion.

I said that it doesnt prove or disprove anything because people are different. Some like playing with friends and some like playing alone. Why do you think heroes are so popular too? Just because someone is playing with friends and enjoying the game doesnt mean he won't enjoy it playing alone. I know that I'm in that category. So ya, your point doesnt really prove or disprove anything.

Sidra · Nov 26, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

I disagree with you Ernada on disagreeing with lac. I think he proves a point, if you're playing a game you may not like by yourself, you hate it, but if you play it with friends, then you might like it a bit more.

manitoba1073 · Nov 26, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

so you guys call this fun. theres a serious problem.

this is what is taking the fun outa the game.

the first picture is how far the priest kitted away from there stating position.
the second one is another priest in the very next group see what he did.

WasAGuest · Nov 26, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

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Originally Posted by Pudin Tame

This thread is not about alternatives to GW. Please start another thread for that. Thanks

Sorry, thought we were trying to help each other "out of the boredom". Since Anet isn't willing to do anything, thought I would jump in and offer alternatives to sitting around "bored".

DL Lorre · Nov 26, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Ok nice picks and i agree now that the aggro is riddiculous.

I'd like to know how the hell i can be attack a spirit from approximately 6+ aggro bubbles (me and a friend actually counted) and have all those Naga aggroed(Out by Sskai). Its like they were uber-intuned with the spirit to know when it was in need.

Havent run into any kiting problems in Factions or Prphecies yet, not going to NF til i
1) beat the game with my dervish
2)Get that Croc i want

I still find it riddiculous however that people are bored at NF alrdy, and the game in general. (Not your fault people). There are people that beat factions in 1-2 days and enjoyed the crap outa themselves from farming, the elites, or Allaince battle (which is the best PvP imo)

Heres hoping for a change for the better in December

*EDIT* Mistakes.....again

Pudin Tame · Nov 26, 2006, 09:58 AM // 09:58

It looks to me like ANet has alienated a portion of it's clients, farmers mainly, in order to please another segment. The problem with that is that they took something that we had and expected to be there away. The people who benefited from the changes didn't lose anything. I doubt many people would have quit playing because they couldn't obtain a "vanity" item, but I know of many who have quit because of the AI changes and addition of inscriptions. As of today I am done with GW until things are fixed. I'll check the site for a couple of weeks to see if they fix anything and if not, I'm gone for good.

Gli · Nov 26, 2006, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Ok, I'm still not bored but you may now consider me annoyed as HELL.

Hero Battle weekend, but apparently I can't get there without deleting a character to make a PvP toon first. F%^$ this.

xXa1 · Nov 26, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

ive spent USD170 on this game already, what a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing waste of money.

keli · Nov 26, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32

I still play this game because of my friends, and guildies. (over one year)
And btw i still enjoy it. And i think who is bored that man hasnt got friends or something to play with, this game is not only for single play its for to play with other people. + Gw has got upgrades every months skill balances, new titles... And about the farm nerf, the 55 hp was too powerful and ebayers can run them in 50(000) computers to get real cash. And if you use your mind a little you can make another build to farm with. Yes its sadly that game where you have to think a little. If you dont want to think or play with friends go and play counterstrike or wow and these shit mmos...

And yes there are many little bugs in that game too like the aggro. The key of this when a priest goes away is to change target and hit another npc. Is it really hard to think out or what?

(sorry for the text mistakes, my english isnt perfect)

makosi · Nov 26, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

When I get bored, I instinctively farm. Farming is possible but too slow and not worthwhile so I don't bother. Chest runs enrage me with the number of purples and gold req. 13 canes i get so I don't bother with that anymore.

What's left? PvP? Nah, no thanks.

All I can do is take my 10 PvE characters through the game or go for the grind titles. ZZZzzz

reetkever · Nov 26, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by keli

I still play this game because of my friends, and guildies. (over one year)
And btw i still enjoy it. And i think who is bored that man hasnt got friends or something to play with, this game is not only for single play its for to play with other people. + Gw has got upgrades every months skill balances, new titles... And about the farm nerf, the 55 hp was too powerful and ebayers can run them in 50(000) computers to get real cash. And if you use your mind a little you can make another build to farm with. Yes its sadly that game where you have to think a little. If you dont want to think or play with friends go and play counterstrike or wow and these shit mmos...

And yes there are many little bugs in that game too like the aggro. The key of this when a priest goes away is to change target and hit another npc. Is it really hard to think out or what?

(sorry for the text mistakes, my english isnt perfect)

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I did have alot of friends in my list, but they all stopped playing except for 2. The Skill balances are only cause of PvP mostly, which I don't do. This makes alot of builds unrelieable, since they can be nerfed every day.

ebayers can also do UW with 50000 computers and make big cash, they can also do junundu wurm farming with 50000 computers and make big cash. Why would A-net take away the fun from a big part of their customers just to get rid of some e-bayers? (BTW cause of lack of farming now, e-baying has been promoted). Thinking of a new farm build to farm melee monsters at the same speed is impossible. Melee monsters are now impossible to farm at great speed, and we can all see the results of that (stuff gets expensive).

The key is not to change attack target. The priest will just come back to lure. Besides, if you have a warrior hench/hero, it won't listen to your command and follow the priest right into 3 other groups.

keli · Nov 26, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by makosi

When I get bored, I instinctively farm. Farming is possible but too slow and not worthwhile so I don't bother. Chest runs enrage me with the number of purples and gold req. 13 canes i get so I don't bother with that anymore.

What's left? PvP? Nah, no thanks.

All I can do is take my 10 PvE characters through the game or go for the grind titles. ZZZzzz

There must be more ways to farm fast, or find another place where you can farm for good money. If you dont find them then go to fow or urgoz(..) with guild team, i say you its really fun. There are many things to do after nightfall,prophecies,factions. And if u dont have a guild and friends from it, find one..

Fred Kiwi · Nov 26, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

Think of sorrows furnace. That kept me and a lot of people playing for a very long time. Why?

Greens. Greens were rare and were fun to acquire.

But now it seems anet has just abused this system and released so many that people just dont want them.

Sure I agree about newbies having the equipment they want, but the amount of greens there are is just going too far. They should have a large concentrated amount of bosses similar to SF and forget the rest of the map, and then release loads of collectors instead of greens. Everyones a winner.

lacasner · Nov 26, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Yes, but make it chapter wide, only that way.

keli · Nov 26, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Originally Posted by reetkever

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I did have alot of friends in my list, but they all stopped playing except for 2. The Skill balances are only cause of PvP mostly, which I don't do. This makes alot of builds unrelieable, since they can be nerfed every day.

ebayers can also do UW with 50000 computers and make big cash, they can also do junundu wurm farming with 50000 computers and make big cash. Why would A-net take away the fun from a big part of their customers just to get rid of some e-bayers? (BTW cause of lack of farming now, e-baying has been promoted). Thinking of a new farm build to farm melee monsters at the same speed is impossible. Melee monsters are now impossible to farm at great speed, and we can all see the results of that (stuff gets expensive).

The key is not to change attack target. The priest will just come back to lure. Besides, if you have a warrior hench/hero, it won't listen to your command and follow the priest right into 3 other groups.

Intresting, my henchies and heroes attack my target hmm. And the wurm farm and these arent worth for the ebayers, it isnt that big money what they could do with solo bot uw. It doesnt worth to operate a computer for 1k / turn. And it still slower. So the remaining is the team farming. Dont say to me u cant farm in The Realm of Torment with 5men groups. The ebayers are loosers everybody know, its like to playing card game with x-ray glasses.
And there are many events where you can farm for worth and fill your xunlai..

keli · Nov 26, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

Think of sorrows furnace. That kept me and a lot of people playing for a very long time. Why?

Greens. Greens were rare and were fun to acquire.

But now it seems anet has just abused this system and released so many that people just dont want them.

Sure I agree about newbies having the equipment they want, but the amount of greens there are is just going too far. They should have a large concentrated amount of bosses similar to SF and forget the rest of the map, and then release loads of collectors instead of greens. Everyones a winner.

I sold greens for 30-40k so it worth to farm. I have a solo djinn farming build and it worth to farm (sapphires/rubys). I have a big extra cash from chest running and i have weapons for my heroes from chest running.

lacasner · Nov 26, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Team farming doesn't work, pretty much nothing drops anymore. Literally, I went to clear a whole area of tyria outside grotto (ice flow) and I opened 3 chests (all purple high req.), and my best drop was a purple armor. I would say I got about 1k for over 45mins of farming that place.

keli · Nov 26, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by lacasner

Team farming doesn't work, pretty much nothing drops anymore. Literally, I went to clear a whole area of tyria outside grotto (ice flow) and I opened 3 chests (all purple high req.), and my best drop was a purple armor. I would say I got about 1k for over 45mins of farming that place.

Then abandon that place and find another.

reetkever · Nov 26, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by keli

Intresting, my henchies and heroes attack my target hmm. And the wurm farm and these arent worth for the ebayers, it isnt that big money what they could do with solo bot uw. It doesnt worth to operate a computer for 1k / turn. And it still slower. So the remaining is the team farming. Dont say to me u cant farm in The Realm of Torment with 5men groups. The ebayers are loosers everybody know, its like to playing card game with x-ray glasses.
And there are many events where you can farm for worth and fill your xunlai..

My henchies and heroes also attack the first target. I target priest, priest kites, I target elementalist, Koss first runs after the priest for 10 seconds, after that realizes that I clicked on the elementalist 10 times, and then comes back with 3 groups he aggroed.

Now you said it yourself. Wurm farm and UW isn't worth it. (Wurm farm gives about 6K per run, while 55HP monks only got 1K/500 gold per run, but I-monks were way faster).

Team farming is not worth it. Even when solo-ing, the drops when using 55HP monk were rather lousy, now you only get 1/5th of these drops. Not to mention that IF you get lucky, you find a weapon with req 8 and 15^50, it's only worth 10K. (I used to be FRIGGIN happy with a gold 15^50. It was the best drop I could possibly imagine, it was just worth it to see 'Damage + 15% (While Health is Above 50%)' after Identifying the weapon. Now, it's nothing.

There hasn't been 1 event yet where I could make good cash.

-Double key drop/double chance on goldie from chest event came close, but that was back then, when chests were worth it and when actually enough monsters could be farmed to drop keys.

For the rest, the events are ****. Triple green event. Wow, we now have a 0.0003% chance of getting a green instead of 0.0001%. But wait, there are 8 people in a party, so that percentage goes down...

Ebaying gold is something I would never do, though. I don't farm for the gold only, I also farm for the farming. Farming itself is great fun in my opinion. The kicks of finding a good drop, and actually seeing the gold growing in your storage. Heck even games were made out of farming (Guild contests, first who gets *whatever* wins 10K or something like that.)

But now all the stuff, chest running, farming, exploring, etc isn't fun anymore. The only thing left to do is doing the missions and quests.... 8 times.

Avarre · Nov 26, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by lacasner

Team farming doesn't work, pretty much nothing drops anymore. Literally, I went to clear a whole area of tyria outside grotto (ice flow) and I opened 3 chests (all purple high req.), and my best drop was a purple armor. I would say I got about 1k for over 45mins of farming that place.

Everyone knows Mursaat and Ice Imps are legendary item droppers.

Farming has been slowed somewhat, I've made about 80k this week selling inscriptions / weapon drops. PvE has been a little boring prior to Nightfall for me, the game actually made things briefly more interesting, with new areas and such.