Curse

Bankai · Dec 02, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by Ark Claw

want Runes and Skills trader -.-"

no need of henchs -.-"

Agreed. I really hoped there would be a skills trader. Since I needed some skills.

MegaMouse · Dec 02, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

THe Elite missions within Factions will have a way to get to them soon as Gaille Gray has said. This update that opened DoA was something that they planned on putting in but it wan'tready for the retail launch of Nightfall. If you can find a good guild I think that getting a team to go into DoA will be more fun and you might have a better experience. Out of the guild I am in' one other and myself were the only ones who, up until last night, had finished Nightfall./ To be able to get a full team of players in DoA the 2 of us helped out some of our guildmates finish the last 2 missions (Shiro is easy if you keep him blind). Now we can go into DoA without worry because we are helping out our mates to get to a point where they can go into it. Doing this is actualy quite fun. The area was not meant for henchmen as most if not all of the enemies are lvl 28+.
As far as Skill trainers and Rune traders don't your guilds have those, if not just take a trip to any outpost as they usualy have them (the major ones at least). They are not needed within DoA in my opinion.
According to Gaille Gray there will be an easier way to get into the Factions Elite missions in a pending update so we just have to wait.

Mega Mouse

Bankai · Dec 02, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Yes, ofcourse you can just go somewhere else. There's also one in the Gates of torment. It's just a pain to map out if you have a full party. I'd have added a skill trainer there.

M1h4iL · Dec 02, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

The hench are not in the elite missions/areas because they are far superior to most pugs, which would make the elite areas too easy, however in a pug the game suddenly becomes challenging.

lavertan · Dec 02, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

I can't agree. Try to do whole The Deep with henchmans. Impossible.

nephilim · Dec 02, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

With heroway it could be possible, just because heroes can be tailored a bit more to respond to the threats you'll see in DoA.

IMO, it's to discourage solo runs of the area with only AI (or very little). Hell, just cuz you could do most of NF solo (with hero/henchies) I think a whole lot of people need to socialize and get something going, rather than complain about the AI not being there for you anymore.

lavertan · Dec 02, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Yea but i don't want socialize:P However i stand today on this mission and looking for group for hm 20 minutes? and guess what? nothing. Thats why i like henchies. They never reject invites:P

Shaq_gw · Dec 02, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

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Originally Posted by nephilim

With heroway it could be possible, just because heroes can be tailored a bit more to respond to the threats you'll see in DoA.

IMO, it's to discourage solo runs of the area with only AI (or very little). Hell, just cuz you could do most of NF solo (with hero/henchies) I think a whole lot of people need to socialize and get something going, rather than complain about the AI not being there for you anymore.

And what gave you the right to tell someone else HOW to play?

I think people shouls always be able to choose between people and AI to play.
ALWAYS

ValaOfTheFens · Dec 02, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Henchies are good for distracting mobs while you and your Heroes sneak away. *lol* ANet probably just wants to push PUG's on us, guildie togetherness, or maybe they want people to make some really good one man builds so they know what professions to nerf next.

Blkout · Dec 02, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by Bankai

I really think it's much more enjoyable to think of a way how to do it with 8 people, instead of just you. It's the same as playing chess versus a computer. It's nice for practice, but it's just so much more fun to play versus a human being.

Unless you're playing PvP, you ARE playing against a computer. Care to rethink that statement?

Bankai · Dec 02, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Blkout

Unless you're playing PvP, you ARE playing against a computer. Care to rethink that statement?

Sorry. I should have said with instead of versus. The whole point is that you're actually playing with other people.

Pandora's box · Dec 02, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

There are players who love to play in human parties and there are players who prefer to lead a party of heroes/henchmen. I won't mind adding elite missions for player only parties, if also the opposite happens: adding elite content for hero/hench only parties. Unfortunately that never happens...