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MerLock · Dec 07, 2006, 07:11 AM // 07:11

What do you mean by improvements? As far as I see, each chapter has improved apon the last.

generik · Dec 07, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by MerLock

What do you mean by improvements? As far as I see, each chapter has improved apon the last.

Indeed, people got everything they asked for.

1) Running absolutely destroyed. Check.
2) Think of the economy!!! Check.
3) Lesser bots due to new AI. Check.
4) Less inflation. Check.

People are just whining too much. Everything is of your own making. Ha Ha.

TiNkLeR · Dec 07, 2006, 08:58 AM // 08:58

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Originally Posted by MerLock

What do you mean by improvements? As far as I see, each chapter has improved apon the last.

Yeah.. so many improvements...

Trading?

Party?

Reconects?

In Game goodies?

ITS THE SAME GAME! FFS! Chapter 4 will be the ultimate decision, wheter i will continue play guildwars or not.

So many things that can be donne but they dont do. Yeah we are guilty because in majority we say "go play WoW", and that will not improve the game.

TiNkLeR · Dec 07, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by brokenmonkey

What do u mean "Improvements", We already got improvements!!!

DUR.. do u remember hero's? Do u remember Saved Builds? Do u remember New ai? Do you remember A WHOLE NEW CAMPAIGN? DO U REMEMBER THE NEW WEAPONS?DO U REMEMBER THE NEW PETS? DO U REMEMBER THE PROFESSIONS? DO U REMEMBER THE ELITE MISSION? DO U REMEMBER THE NEW STUFF FOR PVP(the Weapon making thing and armor thing.) I don't understand, no matter WHAT anet does, u r NEVER happy.

and yea, guess what. GO PLAY WOW for mounts. they're STUPID!

Sorry for my flame, but I'm tired of ungrateful B*s*erds.

Yes.. same improvements like factions.

boring.

aron searle · Dec 07, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Numerus improvements to the interface, including getting rid of attribute points.

Skill templates

Heros

Introducing greens, adding greens, more greens

End game rewards

Numerus AI updates

4 new classes

Constant skill updates

New PVP modes in factions

New PVP modes in nightfall

Several tweaks to faction rate

BLALBALBLABLalblallalblalbala..................... .....

NEARLY ALL improvements have come from community suggestions

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ITS THE SAME GAME! FFS!

Ive heard chapter 4 will be a flight simulator, of course its the same game

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So many things that can be donne but they dont do. Yeah we are guilty because in majority we say "go play WoW", and that will not improve the game.

Please show me where all but a few stupid people have said go play WOW, when people have asked for re-connects, or improved trading. Those are things people all want, and anet are (not ) working on it, so whats that got to do with your op.

Kook~NBK~ · Dec 07, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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Originally Posted by Matsumi

The way I read it was that there have been tons of improvements, but people in here are sitting around saying "What have you done for us lately?"

Anyways, to which I totally agree with kook on this topic.

That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. (I should have said "what have they (not 'you')done for us lately" - fixed that.)

Ninna · Dec 07, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

with all the cynicism, people must have the holiday blahs

recent PVE improvements
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- being able to change your profession at any outpost, without talking to a npc

- Henchman Flags! (for positioning)

- control+click Skill Bar to announce skill setup to your party members

- materials storage extended to Prophecies

- Skill Templates

- Heroes

Gregslot · Dec 07, 2006, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Can anyone explain what is this "V" thing next to the thread?
What does it mean?

MerLock · Dec 08, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

Yeah.. so many improvements...

Trading?

Party?

Reconects?

In Game goodies?

ITS THE SAME GAME! FFS! Chapter 4 will be the ultimate decision, wheter i will continue play guildwars or not.

So many things that can be donne but they dont do. Yeah we are guilty because in majority we say "go play WoW", and that will not improve the game.

As mentioned above my other posters, IE. Controllable henchmen, Heroes, templates, etc. are all improvments.

Yes, they did not get implement everything that the majority of the community wanted but they did implement a fair share of improvements to the game.

I think people tend to take advantage of what has already been implemented and are already forgetting that there were improvements (some pretty major ones) that were already put into the latest chapter of the game.

To say Nightfall didn't receive many improvents is a false statement in my opinion and whining/trashing the company while forgetting what was implemented is pretty lame.

I for one appreiciate all the improvements A.net have already put into this game and I'm sure more will come. Cheers!

Thallandor · Dec 08, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

To be fair, there were several huge improvements that got released in Nightfall and some updates can be more difficult to implement than others and may take longer ie reconnects.

But we cannot choose to ignore the fact that other simpler things the community have asked (eg more storage) keeps getting ignored which makes some players feel that we are being milked for more of the same as each chapter is shipped 6 monthly, despite Nightfall being a great game, storywise and the new mechanics/improvements.

Even so i understand its impossible to satisfy every player's request but telling them to shut up and die wont change their minds about these issues either.

This is a problem of idealology, once someone has made up their minds about an issue its very difficult to change it. To try to fight this is the equal of the war on terror in our time. Just let things take its course and time will tell what is ahead of us in the next chapter and we can decide then again with our dollars.

Bhaaltazar · Dec 08, 2006, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Yes this game needs improvements but not all the sugars from the other MMOs. Dont get me wrong i really, no i mean it reaaaaly needs some end game content because now when u finish the game and if ur not pvp-er than u dont have anything to do. Yes you can go for titles if u want but to me is waste of time since there is no benefit to having them, so gaining the title is just another repetitive pveing.

OK Gladiator is interesting to PvPers to get more respect from others ( or just their ego get pumped so they feel more special and leet - not all of pvpers r like that i am just saying that some of them has superiority complex.. :S )
Farming after u complete the game? Nah you get bored and there are not many things i want to spend my money on in the game ( skins alone is not realy motivating... ).

But it realy seems that anet wants u to buy the game ( doh! ) and than play it for a while and quit until next chapter, why would they bother with endgame content and economy ( like auction houses which i dont think we will ever see.. they will rather make all the items easy available to all so no one will trade any more ).

And next chapter will be like what? Same old with little cosmetic improvments and big advertising, saying we made huge improvements to PvE u will love it ( and than few teenagers say wiiiii, how cool is that, i love u anet and gaile :S and anet takes that as huge succes)

But they never made real improvements to the game ( ok heroes but that can be debatable ).

I like lvl 20 limit, but than again i hate those lightbringer and sunspear grinding ( again not realy big effect on gameplay ). WoW and other MMOs have lots of grinding but at least there u get some kind of reward.. GW, who was oposing grinding/farming so much at the beggining, introduced us to even more ridiculous grinding i have ever seen ( sunspear/lightbringers?).

Quests rewards: XP few gold and few sunspear/lgtbringer points.. I cant w8 to get even more quests and finish em.. its so much fun to get those never needed xp!

I am sorry if i am ranting and flaming and whining and.....

There is so much potential in this game which would be a shame to waste, with a playerbase so big ( not as big as it was anyway ) and leting ppl getting bored and quiting if they dont want to pvp.

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

Even so i understand its impossible to satisfy every player's request but telling them to shut up and die wont change their minds about these issues either.

This is a problem of idealology, once someone has made up their minds about an issue its very difficult to change it. To try to fight this is the equal of the war on terror in our time. Just let things take its course and time will tell what is ahead of us in the next chapter and we can decide then again with our dollars.

I just wish Anet would let us know about thir plans for the future so there wouldnt be so many whining/ranting topics around on the forums. Unfortuantly i just must afree with Thallandor on this.

I understand new players find lots of joy and fun in GW but many old players like me just find it old and stale, repeating gameplay. What can be done about this, considering we know the opinion of anet about it?

generik · Dec 08, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Originally Posted by aron searle

Numerus improvements to the interface, including getting rid of attribute points.

What I find amusing is this keeps getting brought up as a credit to Anet. So they had a design oversight, they decided to remove it then.

So what?

Anyway in my opinion stuff like the old attribute points system and the more recent locked gates in Cantha only reflects Anet's Anal attitude. What's this big idea about restricting what people can do in game? Why force people to play in a fixed order?

Geez, it is fun.

aron searle · Dec 08, 2006, 12:26 PM // 12:26

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Originally Posted by generik

What I find amusing is this keeps getting brought up as a credit to Anet. So they had a design oversight, they decided to remove it then.

So what?

Its relevent to the OP, whos basicly complaining things dont get changed because people say "go play wow", whereas this is but one of a number of changes that was changed because of community requests, Thats why i mention that old chestnut.

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Anyway in my opinion stuff like the old attribute points system and the more recent locked gates in Cantha only reflects Anet's Anal attitude.

More people complained about running than the locked gates, I think that sucks, but its not Anets fault alot of the people playing this game are far to opinionated

Basicly the GW community can suck.

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What's this big idea about restricting what people can do in game? Why force people to play in a fixed order?

Id like running to be an option only to 2nd and on charachters, i was sick of explaining to stupid people why there lost because they got run, Anet completly stopping running was a lazy fix imo.

p.s Go play wow